Topic: Legendary Members Spread Completely Fake Information - Merit System Do Not Work - page 3. (Read 930 times)

Ok, I just have to ask, what good work has BADecker done on this forum?
Care to share some examples? Grabbing popcorn as I imagine your face when you actually read his posts!


I was going to say the same thing, and I'm quite intrigued that SanRemo wants to have a more elaborate discussion and has overlooked the main things here, the possible inhibitory thing and the fact that it was all culture cells, I can't wait to see a human thrown in a freezer at 4C then heated to 37C, washed and lysed (well this might be the end of him but..), after recreating him from the supernatant in a gingerbread cast in some over have him sent healthy and cured back to his daily life.

But still amazes me how someone like BD who says that covid is a hoax and vaccines don't work suddenly has a taste for some drug created by the same reptilians and evil money grabbing pharma.

It is one of the mysteries of the forum that is still unsolved, and the only thing we can conclude from it is that this member has some kind of special status that allows him to do things for which others would very easily get a permanent ban.

As for ranks and merits, the fact that the OP opened this topic only confirms that some members believe that rank in itself means something, but if the member in question appeared on this forum after 2018, he would not even be a Hero member today.

The only thing that the admin should have added to the merit system is an addition that would allow lowering the rank if an active user fails to prove within a certain period that he is worthy of the rank he achieved with airdropped merits.

I quite understand your plight, but for only the misinformation, such a member could be corrected and warned. But you can't outrightly overlook all the good work of a member due to that, it might be a mistake this time.

The truth is that I've seen a couple of high-ranked members who didn't know what they were saying. It might be that they were not good in the aspect they forced themselves to write something, however, this shouldn't be the sole reason why their ranks should be viewed as undeserved.

Many deserve their ranks but need to stop misinformation and dishonourable acts, or else face sanctions.

• Based on BPIP (https://bpip.org/Profile?id=149737), that user actually receive 355 merits.
• The first 1000 merits was airdropped when merit system introduced.
• I don't understand why should people with many merits should get a degree. You can't convert received merit to money and Bitcointalk doesn't offer scholarship either.
• As other user said, just ignore that user.

If you're going to present evidence, at least perform non-random sampling among user who receive many merit (https://bpip.org/Report?r=earnedmerit), perform detailed analysis on selected users and them present result of the analysis.

Your best bet is just to put BADecker on ignore.

For reasons known only to the forum administration, he is given carte blanche to break all the forum rules, including ones which get other users permabanned without a second thought, such as plagiarism and death threats: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.60248138. This has been discussed at length before, and still he is allowed to break rules with abandon.

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I don't really want to get dragged in to any more of BADecker's nonsense, but this nonsense about fenbendazole is the exact same nonsense that he peddled for ivermectin or bleach (yes, he actually suggested people drink bleach). Yes, there have been studies that show ivermectin can inhibit the growth of cancer cells in a Petri dish in a lab. And yes, the studies you linked show that fenbendazole can inhibit the growth of cancer cells in a Petri dish in a lab. And unsurprisingly, if you pour bleach on to cancer cells in a Petri dish in a lab, they'll die too. The same is true for arsenic, or mercury, or dynamite. All very good at killing cancer cells in a Petri dish - not so good at killing cancer cells inside a human.

For all the nonsense he suggests, there is either zero evidence that it works in humans, or more frequently (such as with ivermectin) there are mountains of evidence of show that it doesn't work and/or is actively harmful and dangerous.

The said post by that legendary member is not completely false as you claimed. Besides the post also admits that the drug is being use by both human and animals. I did some brief research about the drug and discover that it's effective for human as well but it is not scientifically approved for human consumption yet. You can say the drug is dangerous for human consumption since it's not scientific proven for human use but discrediting his claim and tagged it fake information while research is still on going about the said drug is inappropriate too. Two wrong can not make a right.


Sounds like someone who is not comfortable with the merit system, perhaps finding it difficult to get merit. I know some high rank members would have still been stagnant in lower rank if not for the merit airdropped they received. However, you should not judge the effective of the system by few individuals who are favor from it. Besides the post did not receive a single merit.

Forum is a bitcoin discussion place just like other medias with different people who have different ideas and opinions. It's absolutely at your own discretion to chose what to believe and who to believe. You're also entitled to your own research and opinion.

It is strange to find an old legendary member present in the most important Bitcoin forum since 2013, and yet it is rare to find any post from him related to Bitcoin?

BADecker only writes in the Politics and Society section. Personally, I have not read any of his posts outside of this section. I am surprised if he is only interested in politics, why does he choose the Bitcoin forum to post in?

But regardless, this is a global forum open to everyone, and no one can confiscate freedom of opinion and expression. As for spreading misleading information, this falls on the responsibility of the members who believe everything and do not do their own research.

The OP-mentioned posts haven't got any merit, as far as I can see and it has nothing to do with the merit system. I understand the OP's concern. He must be thinking about how this person became a legendary member who shared this kind of misinformation! The truth is some legendary members became members of that reputable rank by merit airdrop. If you check their recent merit section you will notice they haven't gotten many merits recently.

Also a user spreads misinformation, but that doesn't mean he is bad at every field of expertise. They can be very good on other boards. However if that information is not 100% correct then why don't you criticize it on that original topic and correct the misinformation he spread? It doesn't make sense to create a new topic in meta by telling everyone the merit system is bad.

Sounds intriguing, my friend. I'll definitely drop by, and who knows, maybe that'll get badecker to check out your thread. Let's see what he's got to say.

Whether information is right or wrong is subjective, plus what's right today, could be wrong tomorrow and vice versa. We see this happening all the time in research fields.

Guy you talk about was airdropped 1k merits (just taking it from prior comments, haven't checked myself), even if that weren't be the case, his merit could have been attained by his ideas in different subjects, that doesn't make him proficient in anything. Even professionals make mistakes in their field of expertise.

I opened a new thread 🧵 I suggested badecker get the legendary troll designation for his designation.

It would be well deserved.

It appears there might be a slight misunderstanding regarding how the merit system works. Merits aren't solely based on a single post's content, and they can accumulate gradually over time. If the poster has contributed positively in the past (I haven't personally verified this), that could explain why they've received merits. Once merits have been awarded for past contributions, they typically can't be revoked, even if a misleading or incorrect post surfaces. That's the fundamental principle, my friend.

Now, it seems your concern doesn't necessarily pertain to the merit system, but rather to the reputation system. Keep in mind that a member's rank doesn't always correlate with their reputation. A Full member might have a better reputation than a Legendary member who has received negative feedback. So, exercise caution when making judgments, and it would be wise to familiarize yourself more with how the forum functions.

If you believe the poster is indeed spreading false information, you could consider providing negative feedback. However, it might not be immediately visible, especially if you're not part of the DT members. If the DT members find your concerns reasonable, they may assist in flagging the account as well. These are just potential scenarios, as accounts and posts usually require investigation before making the appropriate action.

personally badecker is fucking nuts and writes nonsense on a constant basis.

The op is not aware that BADecker is like a class clown 🤡. I have no issues that he started this thread.

At op good work you spotted one of the forum’s nuttiest people.

NotBatman had a crazy flat earth thread going for a long time.

We can have long conversations if those are related to drugs because as a pharmacist it would be a pleasure for me to have conversation with someone having same background. It's first time I'm hearing that o_e_l_e_o is a doctor and I'm happy to know that we have some people from health department on this forum. I have never said anything about my profession before because I thought that it would be totally off-topic for Bitcointalk members, but today the OP left me no choice and that's why I had to share details about my profession.

I'm proud to say that I'm a pharmacist and I'm proud to say that I'm a member of this amazing forum. I have been serving as a hospital pharmacist for more than two years now and I think we can have great discussions about drugs or our profession which could be helpful for both of us. We can also have conversations related to our field in the form of private messages and it'll be a pleasure for me to learn something from a senior pharmacist like you. I'll be eagerly waiting for o_e_l_e_o's reply so we may get some better information about Fenbendazole's anti-cancer activity.

OP, I second this.  I had to check when BADecker registered on the forum, and it was way before the merit system came into existence.  For the time he's been an active member here, he actually hasn't earned many merits at all.  Assuming he was already Legendary in January 2018, he would've been airdropped 1000 merits as did every Legendary member when Theymos created the system. 

In other words, his posts aren't very popular and the merit system wouldn't have been able to suppress his nonsense anyway.

No kidding!  Why did I never know that?  We could probably have long conversations, even if we live in different countries (which I'm unsure of).  And I know of at least one doctor here (o_e_l_e_o) who would be able to debunk any medical claims falsely made by BADecker or anyone else.

This forum is all about freedom of speech, OP.  If someone writes bullshit, you just have to counter it with facts or ridicule and let the community judge for themselves what to believe.  The merit system has nothing to do with any of this.

Everyone must not give accurate information in this forum the ability for you to do your research matters alot and you should also do your findings without relying on the people who shares it, that is why the forum mostly required some user that are sharing information to also include source link. Have you checked on the rank to know if it was airdropped to the user to go this far in rank, and most times those where airdropped never knew how hard it's to have a credible rank like Hero or Legendary rank. But however not every Legend are low poster as you may described them and the merits has nothing to do here besides you don't need to point out to someone who doesn't have a deep knowledge in that area of study.

1. Just because someone has a legendary rank here does not mean they are Knowledge in all fields. Even a member with a newbie rank can correct a member with a legendary rank. This is just a forum rank not a knowledge rank

2. Merit spending is subjective. Someone can receive 400 merits for posts that are just from art contests, fun etc. and not necessarily knowledge sharing. So how do you end up saying that the merit system does not work?
The aim of the merit system was to fight spam, and it worked just fine.

Just because there's a merit system doesn't mean a forum member's post is correct or it isn't fake/false information that is being posted here in the forum. Merit system is used to reward forum members who posted good/high quality posts that deserves a merit and merit is also needed by forum members who aren't legendary yet to be able to rank up. If there's a newbie who only wnats to rank up and didn't even bother to post high quality post won't be able to rank up at all.

It’s a good thing you know something about medicine (Anthelmintic drug) which I don’t even know what that is but, you need to learn something about generalization like the sort you did in that quote and affirming something that haven’t got any relativism with merit system to merits.

You can’t try or hope to make something right by using the wrong moves. Maybe I can’t tell you anything about Anthelmintic drug but, I can tell you that you’re wrong on the part where you have to generalize legendary members to be spreading fake news. That’s, false.
The merit system only rewards quality posts and that’s just about it. It doesn’t decide on what’s true or not and it only tells the perspective of a person and that’s the one meriting. Get over it:

Also, you could as well note that, not all you see on the internet is true. Choose what you would believe after doing proper research to it and pass on the rest.

First of all, I recommend you to learn proper quoting in this forum before saying such things and when it comes to medicine degree then I must tell you that I'm a pharmacist by profession and I'm currently working in health sector. The research on that drug's anti-cancer activity is going on for sometime and it will take sometime before it'll be officially recognized as a anti-cancer drug. I think you really don't understand medicine deeply and that's why you're saying such things.

When it comes to research then I can surely say that there has been some research on this drug's anti-cancer properties and you'll have to read those researches yourself. Once you read those researches then you'll understand that the doctors or someone else who's saying something about the anti-cancer properties of this drug aren't spreading fake information.

I will include some links of the researches that has been done on this drug and when you read those researches then you'll understand that the drug has shown some anti-cancer properties in those researches. I hope that after reading those articles you'll understand that research is already being done on that drug and there are some chances that in future we may see it in the list of anti-cancer drugs when enough researches show its anti-cancer properties.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-30158-6

https://aacrjournals.org/cancerres/article/82/12_Supplement/2313/701049/Abstract-2313-Fenbendazole-induces-cell-cycle

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2468294222000910

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9437363/