Topic: Legendary members "supports" fraudsters ? (Read 1054 times)

You just take the quote out of context. Check the whole thing and don't judge one post like an ignorant


You're only writing this to suck up to kings, anyway? What aren't you gonna do for money ..?
I can't read such stupid things. What difference does it make to who has a reputation (often artificial and misleading - money for money ) ? In every social group so Good and Bad. And you justify this forum, which is also funny. I don't doubt there are people here with rank, honest. But it doesn't change the fact that many people use all these ranks and merits for evil purposes. It's so hard to understand and yet try to change it ? What's wrong with that ? you want others to fuck you ?

I hope their allegations to the legendary members are not true and I know the legendary members that they first entered as a bitcoin crypto investor. The legendary is the best of all ranks so dependent on them if they are faithful or they can do bad things, because each of us has its own decision

How can he be lying when the sentences quoted by you are questions? Maybe I don't know English well enough, but as fat as I do for a sentence to be a lie it has to be a statement or an exclamation. If I ask you, is your mother fat, it's impossible for me to lie about anything, or argue, just as it is impossible for Stompix in that quote.
The forum is what it is, if you don't like that accounts aren't being banned for scamming or lying, you are free to start your own and be the judge, the jury, and the executioner there.

I guess you don't know what irony is.
Or you can't read with understanding.




How do you know it? Why do you put on something and lie? I have done a lot of research
Secondly, there are new people on the forum all the time. Totally unaware of the dangers.
And don't tell me foolishness that there is a full manual, etc., etc., that there is a lot of people on the forum. This does not change anything.
Nobody starts the campaign by reading 150,000 threads on this forum beforehand.



You are lying again. You come up with a thesis and then you argue.

This is exactly your way of thinking.
Let's ban every legendary that comes with a project because it might turn into a scam.

People are tagging tens of accounts each day, and if you don't do minimal research and at least check the profile of the fraudster what should we do? The forum is full of guides, stickies, warnings, and you still throw your money just because an account has a good rank?
Who are you, Fry, "shut up and take my money?"

Seriously, what do you want?
You want others to do the research for you and tell you what project is 100% bulletproof profit maker?

You proposed escrow bounty campaigns.
What prevents you from joining ONLY campaigns that have escrowed funds and stay away from those that are not?
I'm going to tell you what, it's called greed!!!!

Look at your last post...


Whatever...

This changes a lot. Such an account (legendary member) is created for years. It requires a lot of hard work.
New users do not trust each other in advance.
Where is the logic in your thinking?


What does gingerbread have for the windmill?

Bitcoin is only an object, a means of payment. Just like cash, credit card.
A knife can be used to cut bread, but it can be used to kill. Should we ban it?

I don't know if removing signatures for banned users is a new thing (compared to pirate's account) but he might not be banned.
Tradefortress was also not banned although he was a clear scammer and we have at least two more members that was arrested, escrow.ms is still active for example.

But now, what would a ban achieve?
Ok, ban the account and, it solves 0.

@tumis

The forum is not and can't act like a police investigation force.
There are hundreds of scams that happened which caught everybody by surprise, there are scams even prosecutors court can't prove, what can users with limited info do about?

You find someone suspicious, open a scam accusation topic and he might get tagged if you provide sufficient info.
We can't rely on banning people just on assumptions.

Back in 2010 the majority of the population would have said bitcoin is a scam, and I the opinion reversed even if the percentages have changed a lot. Should we have banned satoshi?

The forum allows promotion of scams up to a fault IMHO.

He already got thickly red painted. Not much more anybody can do.

I think if a scammer has been proven in court to have broken laws and convicted, then their account could be banned and even deleted. Up to that point, accounts are never banned or deleted for scam promotion.

This member was convicted of running a Ponzi scheme and served time in prison, and his account can still be found on the forum. Not sure if he was banned or not but I'm going to guess "yes."

This is only a fraction of the scams of this "legend":






Coming Soon !

Of course I do research. I know that rank does not mean someone trusted.
But the forum should not be misleading. And bounty assumptions are misleading.
And new users have no right to guess that.
Someone is constantly feeding on the naivety of the unconscious.

And you, as senior members and  all old members, should take care of you to make it better. And you ALL have it in your ass in 80% of cases. That's the truth.
It is important that you earn yourself. The rest doesn't matter.

Here you have an example of a campaigns that had a very strong "support" from "certain" people
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.49909676

so you guys join some shity ICO campaign, if you get paid, you don't even bother say thanks or contribute a single good post to the forum, but when things go south you complain about the forum.


This does not mean anything, rank does not mean anything in terms of  honesty and trustworthiness, let alone the effort and resources to be wasted on moderating this shit.


this is pretty much a research that YOU can do before joining any campaign, if they follow your terms/rules, join and if they don't, move on.

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we all want this place to perfect, but if each one of us can't do a simple task of "research" before doing a thing , then nobody can do this for us. you have to also understand that even if satoshi himself escrows anything for you, the chances of you not getting paid are still there, there is always a risk dealing with random people on the internet.

Moderators dont have a drag & drop function for threads they dont like so your post doesn t make sense. When there is a new post the thread moves up, when there isn t other threads that have new posts do.

Why has this topic been moved to the VERY bottom of the forum?

I understand that this topic is not cool and completely meaningless.
Your bitcoins stink per kilometre.

Good but tell me one thing. Why not prohibit the creation of such shit?

How to do it.

- Campaigns can only be created by Sr.Members and above.
- To create campaigns everyone has to do a resaerch (at least minimal without taking everything possible.
- Escrow fundraising + ico coins
If, for example, it turns out that a given "licensed" campaign manager has 3 ICOs in a row which :
1. do not pay bounty hunters
2. are fraudulent

Or a given campaign manager has more than 30% of fraudulent campaigns during the year, he is suspended (for example for 6 months) or permanently removed.
If it is merit, is it really difficult to do it?

Advantages:
90 % less bounty campaigns
70% more value campaigns
60% more fair payments.
500% less frustrated working for free.
5 times more attention to ico and the overall picture of the cryptovalent world and this forum.

Disadvantages
900% less money for fraudsters
80% less money for managers who receive any payment in advance (including those with a lot of experience on the forum which know an ordinary machine / patent making money on dishonesty

It's well known (at least for the experienced forum users) that most BMs and these ICO services are fraudulent. New projects are sometimes very unfamiliar with the forum, which leads to them hiring one of these frauds.

"Look how it's done, We'll be billionaires. Yeah

I quite agree with you but the only point I disagreed is the point where you state that you can not trade on this forum due to the activities of scammer, as you have said rank doesn't really matter a newbie or legendary member a scammer is always a scammer but the fact still remains that there are a lot of trustworthy members of this forum all that is needed is to do a due diligence work before optioning in to do any transactions involving found.

No

It is not about concluding transactions, exchanging or buying.

Here is a much bigger problem. People can commit serious crimes using your documents under the guise of "kyc".
I will not give more details but warn you that everything is going down a very bad road.
And there is no shortage of naive people here.

As stated below by one legendary members that OP has ranting to legendary members. This probably because of bad experience on doing transactions here in the forum. I agree with you that OP should post pictures so that we can believe her/his story behind this accusations on the higher ranks. I bet that there are higher ranks that are scammer even had a high red trust rating.

To all of us new here in this forum it is better to see the user's trust rating. It is more good to trade and make transaction on those users with higher trust rating.

So it's my fault that somebody cheated me? You think that I work to:
1) Nothing to have
2) To harm others
3). Losing a lot of time?





This is exactly what I mean.

I do not accuse anyone because I do not have any hard evidence but only circumstantial evidence. It is easy to acclimate and I know that there is always good and bad person in every social group.

I use the rank in part for provocation. Why?

Because they have the most experience on the forum
They have the best contacts (unfortunately the possibility of "dirty contacts")

They have the biggest impact on the entire forum (do they want or do not want their rank, it involves a lot of pluses but also a lot of dangers.

I think that the higher you are, the more you should take responsibility for what is happening around you, for example because you have more influence.

And doing nothing is tantamount to the fact that you just allow the fraudsters to act.

There really is a lot of possibilities for this forum (and thus bitcoin) to have a better reputation.

I am afraid, however, that everything only and exclusively revolves around money above all else. Money your god?


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I already have a lot of campaigns behind me.
And there are many thoughts. Even without the use of appropriate tools.

Another provocation. For example

How is it that most scams are effectively avoided by members with a lot of experience? Only experience? And maybe not only? Will you know something more?

Sample ico

INTRO. Cool and brightly ico. 40 ratings on icobench, kyc, real people, trips, social etc.

And agree what happened? Do you think that they have returned money to people? The telegram administrator has not deleted the account?
Do you know how many "legends" took part in the signature campaign?  Is this a coincidence?

It is only a drop in the sea...