Topic: Let me be clear to you, this is not a Bear Martket! (Read 780 times)
The whales are accumulating coins. They can easily manipulate prices through exchanges so for me there is no such thing as a bearish or bullish market. There is only objective reality. You can agree and sell at a low level or wait for the period when the whales want to extract the maximum profit and start pushing the price up.
for all outsiders that enter this,
you have to understand that the current claim that bitcoin suffers from a "bear market" is absolutely wrong.
the bitcoin founders in their unlimited greed tried to push the price as high as possible, but ultimately wasted, aquired all possible support they were able to obtain.
without potential new kapital to attract they are now in a stuck situation, as they cant attract new capital anymore to push the value of their beloved "bitcoin"
this stagnation combined with the automatic liquidity loss (miner electricity and infrastructure bill) leads to a slow drain out of capital for bitcoin.
but thats not all, they also are trapped in a death spiral, as people that use bitcoin as a currency, will pay it to someone who doesnt share their "investor confidence"
through the existing deathspiral the bitcoin "earners" then sell their bitcoin in the market again which leads to a continueing collapse in value.
the whole story about "bear market" is just wishthinking or worse deliberate satisfaction, or moral stabilisation procedures to keep intact their "community".
from a socioeconomic perspective of bitcoins situation
according to logic, you are never in a bearmarket, but in reality in a support loss spiral
regards
you have to understand that the current claim that bitcoin suffers from a "bear market" is absolutely wrong.
the bitcoin founders in their unlimited greed tried to push the price as high as possible, but ultimately wasted, aquired all possible support they were able to obtain.
without potential new kapital to attract they are now in a stuck situation, as they cant attract new capital anymore to push the value of their beloved "bitcoin"
this stagnation combined with the automatic liquidity loss (miner electricity and infrastructure bill) leads to a slow drain out of capital for bitcoin.
but thats not all, they also are trapped in a death spiral, as people that use bitcoin as a currency, will pay it to someone who doesnt share their "investor confidence"
through the existing deathspiral the bitcoin "earners" then sell their bitcoin in the market again which leads to a continueing collapse in value.
the whole story about "bear market" is just wishthinking or worse deliberate satisfaction, or moral stabilisation procedures to keep intact their "community".
from a socioeconomic perspective of bitcoins situation
according to logic, you are never in a bearmarket, but in reality in a support loss spiral
regards
It is obviously a bear market to me since it has really dumped way lower than the peak. But I guess if you try to see all of the chart from where it has started then you can really say that it isn't a bear market.
I do think you are just comparing a year market.
Why not go back where it is just at $300.
If you are already in crypto currencies at those times then until now you will in awe at how much bitcoin grew.
Can any commodity or stocks does that?
A 10 fold in just how many years? 3? 4?
But this is what I think. You are too much worrying at the price. Why not look at how much it grew on being accepted by now.
Japan? Who have thought they would accept it widely?
I thought bitcoin will just be used for black propaganda and yet here we are now.
I even thought it was just an imagination.
Why not go back where it is just at $300.
If you are already in crypto currencies at those times then until now you will in awe at how much bitcoin grew.
Can any commodity or stocks does that?
A 10 fold in just how many years? 3? 4?
But this is what I think. You are too much worrying at the price. Why not look at how much it grew on being accepted by now.
Japan? Who have thought they would accept it widely?
I thought bitcoin will just be used for black propaganda and yet here we are now.
I even thought it was just an imagination.
oh noooo
vitalik attacks bitcoin
https://twitter.com/VitalikButerin/status/1077548790272405504
"I don't believe in proof of work!"
what you gonna do now?
hate vitalik like you hate me in this forum?
I don’t know why you are staying in cryto community while you have no faith on the pioneer and top cryptocurrency in this forum?and why do you think we will hate you by spreading Fud for vitalik buterin when the man can’t even explain why he’s abandoning ethereum to drop from top 2 coin to number 3 now,we bitcoiners only laugh when we saw people like you who’s desperate to bring bitcoin down but the truth is you are only waiting for another lower value of this coin before purchasing lol.stop this mate you are not helping the community vitalik attacks bitcoin
https://twitter.com/VitalikButerin/status/1077548790272405504
"I don't believe in proof of work!"
what you gonna do now?
hate vitalik like you hate me in this forum?
It's definitely a bear market, but in the wrong direction. Of course, that makes a bull market into a bear market.
LOL, whatever we believe it is now, only one thing is certain and that is all our investments are down. If this would continue, we might loss some big investors, but since we survive and we are in the new year, maybe we should be more positive now.
And whatever in our mind, let's hope the rise will start and we can spread the good vibes.
Well the only name associated with bitcoin is Santoshi Nakamoto and he have remain anonymous since bitcoin creation and despite owning a huge amount of bitcoin which is capable of manipulating the market but choose not to aside him there is no individual that can be pointed to as having any control over bitcoin and what you are saying is that bitcoin is in some kind of liquidity chain that I don't agree with you.
It's definitely a bear market, but in the wrong direction. Of course, that makes a bull market into a bear market.
Yes, bear market is a monopolistic move which dictates the price by one service provider such as electricity.
In terms of investment it is not likely to happen since there is a real competition happen inside the market.
In terms of investment it is not likely to happen since there is a real competition happen inside the market.
yes, it is not Bear Martket, it is Bear Market
corrected it, says someone from a forum that spreads the term hodl
This bear market analogy is a term taken entirely from stock markets. And it is obvious that it is similar to the bear market even if it is true what you've said.
a stock -> addition into an ongoing standardised market
bitcoin -> "innovation" that tries to establish itself
thats quite though claiming that you insert bitcoin as a foreign body into an organism like the united states.
This bear market analogy is a term taken entirely from stock markets. And it is obvious that it is similar to the bear market even if it is true what you've said.
if all you said is true, then how do you explain the situation in the bitcoin price which rose and fell several times in the past. was it same push by bitcoin creators?
You maybe right of your statement but lets accept the real status that the down turn on the recent activity on the market was due to a lot of issues concerning crypto market.the FUD, Scammers, Hackers, and the never ending issue on Regulation by the financial government agency which until now is not yet resolved. Lets monitor the market for a more favorable crypto market status come 2019.
i think cryptomarket will resolve itself how power has been always distributed, and thats not through anyfakes.
for all outsiders that enter this,
you have to understand that the current claim that bitcoin suffers from a "bear market" is absolutely wrong.
the bitcoin founders in their unlimited greed tried to push the price as high as possible, but ultimately wasted, aquired all possible support they were able to obtain.
without potential new kapital to attract they are now in a stuck situation, as they cant attract new capital anymore to push the value of their beloved "bitcoin"
this stagnation combined with the automatic liquidity loss (miner electricity and infrastructure bill) leads to a slow drain out of capital for bitcoin.
but thats not all, they also are trapped in a death spiral, as people that use bitcoin as a currency, will pay it to someone who doesnt share their "investor confidence"
through the existing deathspiral the bitcoin "earners" then sell their bitcoin in the market again which leads to a continueing collapse in value.
the whole story about "bear market" is just wishthinking or worse deliberate satisfaction, or moral stabilisation procedures to keep intact their "community".
from a socioeconomic perspective of bitcoins situation
according to logic, you are never in a bearmarket, but in reality in a support loss spiral
regards
you have to understand that the current claim that bitcoin suffers from a "bear market" is absolutely wrong.
the bitcoin founders in their unlimited greed tried to push the price as high as possible, but ultimately wasted, aquired all possible support they were able to obtain.
without potential new kapital to attract they are now in a stuck situation, as they cant attract new capital anymore to push the value of their beloved "bitcoin"
this stagnation combined with the automatic liquidity loss (miner electricity and infrastructure bill) leads to a slow drain out of capital for bitcoin.
but thats not all, they also are trapped in a death spiral, as people that use bitcoin as a currency, will pay it to someone who doesnt share their "investor confidence"
through the existing deathspiral the bitcoin "earners" then sell their bitcoin in the market again which leads to a continueing collapse in value.
the whole story about "bear market" is just wishthinking or worse deliberate satisfaction, or moral stabilisation procedures to keep intact their "community".
from a socioeconomic perspective of bitcoins situation
according to logic, you are never in a bearmarket, but in reality in a support loss spiral
regards
If I see that charts for the whole prices of Bitcoin for where it has been then it is not seem to be in a bear market, but for a time like this then it is.
if all you said is true, then how do you explain the situation in the bitcoin price which rose and fell several times in the past. was it same push by bitcoin creators?
You maybe right of your statement but lets accept the real status that the down turn on the recent activity on the market was due to a lot of issues concerning crypto market.the FUD, Scammers, Hackers, and the never ending issue on Regulation by the financial government agency which until now is not yet resolved. Lets monitor the market for a more favorable crypto market status come 2019.
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jes i am a time traveler from the future bitcoin crashed in 2019 i am just to protect investors here
Mighty god!Do time travelers really exists? I am interested to make a bet. Which day of 2019 you are comfortable? May be it's time for you too change your future LOL
its you who constantly is spreading trash that isnt going to happen like (bitcoin 1 million usd)
It's hard to tell anything.How about this
In Jan 2011 when bitcoin was $0.30 then if anyone would say bitcoin will hit $20,000 someday then what would you say? trash right? Don't pretend that you know everything.
for all outsiders that enter this,
you have to understand that the current claim that bitcoin suffers from a "bear market" is absolutely wrong.
the bitcoin founders in their unlimited greed tried to push the price as high as possible, but ultimately wasted, aquired all possible support they were able to obtain.
without potential new kapital to attract they are now in a stuck situation, as they cant attract new capital anymore to push the value of their beloved "bitcoin"
this stagnation combined with the automatic liquidity loss (miner electricity and infrastructure bill) leads to a slow drain out of capital for bitcoin.
but thats not all, they also are trapped in a death spiral, as people that use bitcoin as a currency, will pay it to someone who doesnt share their "investor confidence"
through the existing deathspiral the bitcoin "earners" then sell their bitcoin in the market again which leads to a continueing collapse in value.
the whole story about "bear market" is just wishthinking or worse deliberate satisfaction, or moral stabilisation procedures to keep intact their "community".
from a socioeconomic perspective of bitcoins situation
according to logic, you are never in a bearmarket, but in reality in a support loss spiral
regards
What have I just read? Where such conclusions? I understand that there are people who manipulate the price of assets, but they are not stupid enough to drive themselves into a corner. I know a lot of people who recently bought bitcoins for the first time. This suggests that the inflow of capital is possible and it will be. The circle of people who know and buy bitcoin is still very small, but it is growing steadily.you have to understand that the current claim that bitcoin suffers from a "bear market" is absolutely wrong.
the bitcoin founders in their unlimited greed tried to push the price as high as possible, but ultimately wasted, aquired all possible support they were able to obtain.
without potential new kapital to attract they are now in a stuck situation, as they cant attract new capital anymore to push the value of their beloved "bitcoin"
this stagnation combined with the automatic liquidity loss (miner electricity and infrastructure bill) leads to a slow drain out of capital for bitcoin.
but thats not all, they also are trapped in a death spiral, as people that use bitcoin as a currency, will pay it to someone who doesnt share their "investor confidence"
through the existing deathspiral the bitcoin "earners" then sell their bitcoin in the market again which leads to a continueing collapse in value.
the whole story about "bear market" is just wishthinking or worse deliberate satisfaction, or moral stabilisation procedures to keep intact their "community".
from a socioeconomic perspective of bitcoins situation
according to logic, you are never in a bearmarket, but in reality in a support loss spiral
regards
my conclusions are good i am doing them since beginning of 2018 and they where all confirmed by reality.
its you who constantly is spreading trash that isnt going to happen like (bitcoin 1 million usd)
Anything what they call for this falldown of price value of the cryptomarket, does not make sense , whatever names to be called for this falldown season can still be considered ,because every crypto member or investors is entitled to what names or opinion they say as long as it is related to bitcoin and cryptocurrency talks and the forum as it will not hurts other feelings is going to be okey and fine.
for all outsiders that enter this,
you have to understand that the current claim that bitcoin suffers from a "bear market" is absolutely wrong.
the bitcoin founders in their unlimited greed tried to push the price as high as possible, but ultimately wasted, aquired all possible support they were able to obtain.
without potential new kapital to attract they are now in a stuck situation, as they cant attract new capital anymore to push the value of their beloved "bitcoin"
this stagnation combined with the automatic liquidity loss (miner electricity and infrastructure bill) leads to a slow drain out of capital for bitcoin.
but thats not all, they also are trapped in a death spiral, as people that use bitcoin as a currency, will pay it to someone who doesnt share their "investor confidence"
through the existing deathspiral the bitcoin "earners" then sell their bitcoin in the market again which leads to a continueing collapse in value.
the whole story about "bear market" is just wishthinking or worse deliberate satisfaction, or moral stabilisation procedures to keep intact their "community".
from a socioeconomic perspective of bitcoins situation
according to logic, you are never in a bearmarket, but in reality in a support loss spiral
regards
What have I just read? Where such conclusions? I understand that there are people who manipulate the price of assets, but they are not stupid enough to drive themselves into a corner. I know a lot of people who recently bought bitcoins for the first time. This suggests that the inflow of capital is possible and it will be. The circle of people who know and buy bitcoin is still very small, but it is growing steadily. you have to understand that the current claim that bitcoin suffers from a "bear market" is absolutely wrong.
the bitcoin founders in their unlimited greed tried to push the price as high as possible, but ultimately wasted, aquired all possible support they were able to obtain.
without potential new kapital to attract they are now in a stuck situation, as they cant attract new capital anymore to push the value of their beloved "bitcoin"
this stagnation combined with the automatic liquidity loss (miner electricity and infrastructure bill) leads to a slow drain out of capital for bitcoin.
but thats not all, they also are trapped in a death spiral, as people that use bitcoin as a currency, will pay it to someone who doesnt share their "investor confidence"
through the existing deathspiral the bitcoin "earners" then sell their bitcoin in the market again which leads to a continueing collapse in value.
the whole story about "bear market" is just wishthinking or worse deliberate satisfaction, or moral stabilisation procedures to keep intact their "community".
from a socioeconomic perspective of bitcoins situation
according to logic, you are never in a bearmarket, but in reality in a support loss spiral
regards
Well tell us why bitcoin survived 2013 and why its so much different NOW, yea we hit 500-20k instead of 100 to 1100 once, and? longterm upward movement is still clearly there you can fud like this if we fall under 1k again
Bitcoin investors who have been some time around just wait for sign of live ( like breaking some support lines which indicates upward movement ( specially with high swings because of FOMO..), once the train started again they all hop in again.. specially if we have like once doubled and so on and bitcoin reaches the news again for example..)
Bitcoin have those huge swings because people are unsure what will happen but it doesnt matter if -/+ 80% or -/+ 5% like in stocks it just needs to happen or it would be a "superbubble" ( in my opinion )
Bitcoin investors who have been some time around just wait for sign of live ( like breaking some support lines which indicates upward movement ( specially with high swings because of FOMO..), once the train started again they all hop in again.. specially if we have like once doubled and so on and bitcoin reaches the news again for example..)
Bitcoin have those huge swings because people are unsure what will happen but it doesnt matter if -/+ 80% or -/+ 5% like in stocks it just needs to happen or it would be a "superbubble" ( in my opinion )
bitcoin was not in global awareness in 2013, icos were unknown in 2013. there where no useable encription services. like ethereum back then.
it will get even worse once the indexation and market definition issue gets decentralised.
Bitcoin price now (December 2018) is: $3,742
Jan 2011: 0.30$
Jan 2012: 4.99$
Jan 2013: 14.00$
Jan 2014: 747.00$
Jan 2015: 317.00$
Jan 2016: 432.00$
Jan 2017: 998.00$
Jan 2018: 14,166$
Jan 2019:
The stat says we are having steady progress.
Jan 2011: 0.30$
Jan 2012: 4.99$
Jan 2013: 14.00$
Jan 2014: 747.00$
Jan 2015: 317.00$
Jan 2016: 432.00$
Jan 2017: 998.00$
Jan 2018: 14,166$
Jan 2019:
The stat says we are having steady progress.
well first time there was a collapse in price. bitcoins growth story obviously ended. i think this is a support loss spiral,
entire world wants to create money and find idiots doing something for it. not just nakamoto, and these forum members here.
jes i am a time traveler from the future bitcoin crashed in 2019 i am just to protect investors here
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