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Topic: Let's add up the KNOWN lost bitcoins - page 18. (Read 65669 times)

legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1002
July 08, 2011, 08:32:28 PM
#61
18,907.12000001
+               0.02
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18,907.14000001
Another 365.18 gone forever...  http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=18371.msg232955#msg232955

18,907.12000001
+  365.18000000
----------------
19,272.30000001
Surprisingly, it's now been recovered!
http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=18371.msg342784#msg342784

19,272.30000001
-   365.18000000
----------------
18,907.12000001

18,907.12000001
+      1.12
18,908.24000001

don't ask.
legendary
Activity: 1204
Merit: 1015
July 08, 2011, 08:24:40 PM
#60
18,907.12000001
+               0.02
--------------------
18,907.14000001
Another 365.18 gone forever...  http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=18371.msg232955#msg232955

18,907.12000001
+  365.18000000
----------------
19,272.30000001
Surprisingly, it's now been recovered!
http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=18371.msg342784#msg342784

19,272.30000001
-   365.18000000
----------------
18,907.12000001
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1005
June 17, 2011, 12:26:05 PM
#59
18,907.12000001
+               0.02
--------------------
18,907.14000001
Another 365.18 gone forever...  http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=18371.msg232955#msg232955

18,907.12000001
+  365.18000000
----------------
19,272.30000001
newbie
Activity: 46
Merit: 0
June 14, 2011, 02:53:27 AM
#58
18,907.12000001
+               0.02
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18,907.14000001
legendary
Activity: 1204
Merit: 1015
June 14, 2011, 02:14:30 AM
#57
Looks like the new wallet encryption feature has caused coins to enter the void:
http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=8728.msg203511#msg203511


18,838.32000001
        3.79000000
      10.00000000
      55.00000000
+     0.01000000
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18,907.12000001
foo
sr. member
Activity: 409
Merit: 250
June 08, 2011, 08:33:33 AM
#56
As per the above story:  Smiley

18,838.31000000
+      0.01000001
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18,838.32000001
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1002
June 08, 2011, 08:10:44 AM
#55
In block 124724, I deliberately and specifically underpaid myself by 0.00000001 ฿, which is colloquially known as "1 Satoshi" after ฿'s creator and due to a lack of a good name for that amount of ฿ money.

To make absolutely sure that I was doing it on purpose, I set the reward value to 49.99999999, which meant that I inadvertently threw away the transaction fees which I could have allocated to myself.

I did it as a tribute to our missing Satoshi: we are missing Satoshi, and now the blockchain is missing 1 Satoshi too, for all time.

Before this, the total *awarded* ฿ would have been (assuming my calculations are correct):

฿20999999.97690000

Now, since I underpaid myself, the total *awarded* ฿ can only be:

฿20999999.97689999

--assuming everyone else pays themselves the maximum until the end of time.

So, this is a provably missing amount of the fees+1 Satoshi from the blockchain, from block 124724, which appears to be 0.01 + 0.00000001 ฿.

I did this by creating an option in my heavily customized client (derived from the git fork of bitcoind) which allows me to arbitrarily suspend the normal block reward calculation and underpay myself. The code itself only checks to ensure that I haven't *overpaid* myself. It doesn't at all care that I've *underpaid* myself.

I view this as a freedom in the protocol, and not a drawback.

blockexplorer.com has a display bug for that block which has not been corrected yet.


wow, u r generous Wink
member
Activity: 88
Merit: 37
June 08, 2011, 05:20:46 AM
#54
In block 124724, I deliberately and specifically underpaid myself by 0.00000001 ฿, which is colloquially known as "1 Satoshi" after ฿'s creator and due to a lack of a good name for that amount of ฿ money.

To make absolutely sure that I was doing it on purpose, I set the reward value to 49.99999999, which meant that I inadvertently threw away the transaction fees which I could have allocated to myself.

I did it as a tribute to our missing Satoshi: we are missing Satoshi, and now the blockchain is missing 1 Satoshi too, for all time.

Before this, the total *awarded* ฿ would have been (assuming my calculations are correct):

฿20999999.97690000

Now, since I underpaid myself, the total *awarded* ฿ can only be:

฿20999999.97689999

--assuming everyone else pays themselves the maximum until the end of time.

So, this is a provably missing amount of the fees+1 Satoshi from the blockchain, from block 124724, which appears to be 0.01 + 0.00000001 ฿.

I did this by creating an option in my heavily customized client (derived from the git fork of bitcoind) which allows me to arbitrarily suspend the normal block reward calculation and underpay myself. The code itself only checks to ensure that I haven't *overpaid* myself. It doesn't at all care that I've *underpaid* myself.

I view this as a freedom in the protocol, and not a drawback.

blockexplorer.com has a display bug for that block which has not been corrected yet.
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1005
June 08, 2011, 03:41:14 AM
#53
+ Robert's 4 that he didn't calculate in to the number.  Smiley

18,834.31
+      4.00
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18,838.31
newbie
Activity: 12
Merit: 0
June 07, 2011, 03:19:33 AM
#52
18,814.31
+0,020.00
----------
18,834.31

Lost it accidentally from a disk crash..
jr. member
Activity: 58
Merit: 10
June 06, 2011, 10:24:33 PM
#51
I just lost about 4 btc on my broken hard drive... thank goodness most of my btc was NOT stored on that hard drive. I'm saving the hard drive, just in case this is one day worth thousands, and I'll be able to justify some data recovery thing.
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1005
June 01, 2011, 01:28:50 PM
#50
Another huge loss of 7208 BTC:  http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=11104.0

11,606.31
+7,208.00
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18,814.31
legendary
Activity: 1937
Merit: 1001
May 28, 2011, 06:23:15 PM
#49
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11,406.22
      50.00+
        0.09+
    150.00+
-------------
11,606.31

(top two are from the post above, my friend threw away his 150 btc, just cause he thought it was stupid and useless xD)
jr. member
Activity: 58
Merit: 10
May 28, 2011, 03:38:06 PM
#48
My friend forgot his password, I think he lost at least 30.

I lost about 0.09.
hero member
Activity: 695
Merit: 502
PGP: 6EBEBCE1E0507C38
May 28, 2011, 01:25:05 AM
#47
I leave 0.01 btc in various wallets here and there

I may forget about one at some point.

May have deleted .01 off an aws ec2, and one when deleting a local vm.
full member
Activity: 154
Merit: 100
May 27, 2011, 11:35:10 PM
#46
11,406.22

If you previously had 1% of the supply, you now have 1.00054% (210,000 / (21,000,000 - 11,406.22) * 100)%

If you previously had 0.9994568% of the supply, congratulations, you now have 1%
legendary
Activity: 1204
Merit: 1015
May 27, 2011, 12:21:10 PM
#45
10,356.22
+    50.00
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10,406.22

10,406.22
+    50.00
----------
10,456.22

Not 100% sure, but looked like we lost a block probably due to default jgarzik's pool not retrying re-submiting work when bitcoind was unreachable...

Oh well. Fortunately no one else was mining at that moment. It was a very short round too with just like 500 shares...  Undecided

Lost blocks aren't truly lost. They are just not counted. Using a duplicate transaction hash in the generation transaction, though, WILL make them disappear.

11,456.22
-     50.00
-----------
11,406.22
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1002
May 27, 2011, 12:17:47 PM
#44
kjj, how'd u find the block?

I just clicked back through the chain until I saw a 9000 -> 8999 + 1 transaction around the right date.

i assume u did this in Block Explorer.  just went there and they only have the last 20 or so blocks listed?  how'd u search further back?  also how did u know what date the block got solved?

You can click all the way back to the genesis block by using the Previous Block links.  Stone Man posted about the loss here on the forums the next day.

geez, u clicked back almost a year?  sounds like u had to remember that Stone Man posted here on the forum, search back for the post and date, and then u knew about how far back u had to go.  the point i'm trying to ascertain is if u didn't know that info and u were looking back in time for this tx, u would have to patiently click back and examine each block carefully for that 8999.  altho in this case it is easy to spot.  what if u were looking for some .01 btc tx?
You can also skip blocks by typing www.blockexplorer.com/b/[BLOCK#]

here again, u have to know the block # ur lookin for.
kjj
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1026
May 27, 2011, 12:14:39 PM
#43
geez, u clicked back almost a year?  sounds like u had to remember that Stone Man posted here on the forum, search back for the post and date, and then u knew about how far back u had to go.  the point i'm trying to ascertain is if u didn't know that info and u were looking back in time for this tx, u would have to patiently click back and examine each block carefully for that 8999.  altho in this case it is easy to spot.  what if u were looking for some .01 btc tx?

It's only like 50,000 blocks back.  OCD hath its privileges.

His loss was pretty easy to find.  There aren't many transactions like it.  Finding one specific .01 transaction would be a lot harder.  You'd have to look at something else that you know, like one of the addresses, or the transaction ID.
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1005
May 27, 2011, 12:12:25 PM
#42
kjj, how'd u find the block?

I just clicked back through the chain until I saw a 9000 -> 8999 + 1 transaction around the right date.

i assume u did this in Block Explorer.  just went there and they only have the last 20 or so blocks listed?  how'd u search further back?  also how did u know what date the block got solved?

You can click all the way back to the genesis block by using the Previous Block links.  Stone Man posted about the loss here on the forums the next day.

geez, u clicked back almost a year?  sounds like u had to remember that Stone Man posted here on the forum, search back for the post and date, and then u knew about how far back u had to go.  the point i'm trying to ascertain is if u didn't know that info and u were looking back in time for this tx, u would have to patiently click back and examine each block carefully for that 8999.  altho in this case it is easy to spot.  what if u were looking for some .01 btc tx?
You can also skip blocks by typing www.blockexplorer.com/b/[BLOCK#]
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