Are OP talking my post:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12427431 ?
Well, as previous posts here said, selling/buying accounts are allowed, and here's a quote from the unofficial list of rules thread:
18. Having multiple accounts and account sales are allowed, but account sales are discouraged.
Also, every time a person buy/sell an account, he/she is in fact doing a trade with bitcoin, and hence increase its usage.
It wasn't aimed at you or anyone else in particular, I have seen it happen on numerous occasions in that sub-forum and I am aware of that rule but if you focus on the second part of that sentence it clearly states that it is discouraged and telling newbies or others to buy account would be sort of encouraging it and my request was only to let's stop this practice.
I think it was me you were talking op i know your point its unfair to old members like you that spent months or years to have what ever you are in possessions around here now. But i only gave advise to a newbie who was asking a question and not prohibited.
In addition its not really unfair i would say newbies will pay an account before having one if they want to skip the long normal way to be a high rank member and you OP loses nothing with this. You might be true if these accounts sold to a newbies intended to scam or a fraud people rather that to make money from sig campaigns a legal action should be held to address this issue. But as far as i know why would someone wastes money to get negative trust of being fraud and will end up to the account be wasted and will cause to newbies loses money for it.
If happens i will not suggest again this to newbies, my apology if i made old members get alarmed by this.
No my original post was just an example to clearly explain my point, it wasn't meant for you or anyone else, I was just asking that maybe we should stop telling it to newbies or anyone else for that matter. There are things in real societies also which are legal and allowed but still avoided as they're morally wrong.
Personally, I don't think it's encouraged much either, it's frowned upon by much of the community or at least was.
Right. It's also not "officially supported". For example, my account recovery procedures assume that accounts are not sold, so I could be convinced to return accounts to the original owner, and the purchaser is out of luck if I do this. I'm not going to act as a broker or escrow for account sales. (But if I do realize that someone is trying to take back a sold account like this, then I'm not going to do it and I might ban them for wasting my time...)
If you lurk a bit in the beginners section, posts similar to "you should buy an account and enroll in a sig campaign" in "how can I earn fast bitcoins" topics will almost always come up.
I suppose that's what people mean by "encourage".
@OP, I think it's pretty bad advice considering most newbies don't have the knowledge/insight to have substantial posts and have a main goal of making small amounts of Bitcoin. So I agree with you.
Exactly, there is no need beat our drums and welcome any newbie with this information.
Every time an account gets sold and bought on Bitcointalk, Theymos gets another pineapple shoved up his ass in hell.
That's pretty descriptive
It's a losing battle twister.
As long as account selling/buying is condoned, people will have access to more senior accounts.
Report the obvious spammy posts by people in signature campaigns and hope they get the ban hammer. Maybe accounts will stop being bought then.
The logic ends here. Whether or not the activity is condoned, it will happen. There is too much incentive. It would simply be driven off the forum.
As long as signature campaigns are tolerated on the forum, I don't really see an issue here.
Would that be bad if the whole selling/buying gets driven off the forum? I think it might stop this to some extent, as theymos said that he restores account assuming that they were not sold and when there is a clear rule stating that account selling/buying is not allowed then people will fear buying accounts even off the forum because they'll know that original owner can restore it back by asking Admins and providing a signed message.