Topic: Libertarianism's state in Europe? - page 2. (Read 1112 times)

Because it's the ultimate arrogance of taxing people to pay for other people's things. And keep in mind 60% of tax revenue comes from middle and poor class.

The rich people doesn't pay taxes. Loopholes, etc. However, they provide already a better service to the community than the whole poor stratum combined, so why should they? It's a meritocracy. A billionaire creates 1 million jobs, while 1 million people pay more taxes than him, obviously.

I`m talking about honest billionaires, not the central bank and other bankster thief types, they are an abomination.

Healthcare can be private, government healthcare is the worst in the known universe. But unless you eliminate govenrment healthcare, private healthcare will always be expensive. Basic economics 101. (supply & demand)

Libertarianism = freedom. Freedom for the rich to become more rich, and freedom for the poor to become rich.
Socialism = slavery. Freedom for the political tyrants to oppress the poor. And freedom for the poor to stay poor forever.

Deal with it.

why should anyone in his right mind support libertarianism unless he is very rich and hopes to pay less tax? i like that society takes care of me if i lose my job and sorts my healthcare out so i never have to think about paying or filling in forms and i think so do most europeans. nobody mentions libertarianism over here unless they're interviewing ron paul or something. ukip (british party) suggested flat taxes and privatising our healthcare but soon dropped the policies when they realised everyone including their own members hated the idea.

What do you think Libertarianism's state and progress is in Europe? And in Europe I don't just mean UK ,Germany and France (yes there are other countries too).

What do you think is our progress ? Will Bitcoin open the eyes of the sleeping sheeps?

=== Here are my thoughts===

I don't know about you guys but Socialism still has a big grip on Europe:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_International

In my view socialism will fall eventually, it's a perversely idiotic system. Which can slip easily into Communism but it has a small chance, atleast in the eastern countries. I`m not sure in the western countries, they are pretty communistic now: France, Belgium,etc.

Also I see a big uproar of nationalism, and I think this is the dominant theme now, people are tired of socialism so they replace it with nationalistic systems, mostly (neo) liberal, or just plain EU-skeptic parties. Now this is good news, the EU is just a giant mess that need to dissolve (we dont need 1 world government) , but it could decentralize tyrrany and bring it back to the nation states.

A dejavu of the 1850's years , history repeats itself, all those nationalist idiots, want to repeat history.

So basically the sheeple gets steered between socialism vs nationalism, which are basically the same, they are both collectivists.

Will the sheeple ever become individualistic again or is the zombie-borg-collectivism our doomed destiny? Will ever libertarianism/anarcho-capitalism become mainstream, or we will just be a fringe group in a society of brainwashed sheeple?  

Let's discuss your opinions.