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legendary
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
September 16, 2012, 09:25:48 AM
#28
I wonder if this has anything to do with Zeek Rewards.

~Bruno~
legendary
Activity: 2506
Merit: 1010
September 16, 2012, 12:18:27 AM
#27
The reports from http://www.talkgold.com/forum/r366628-.html are inconclusive.

Anyone knows more about the LR situation at this point ?

BTC-e, for instance, appears to now be allowing LR deposits and withdrawals once again.

(Their most recent update of their deposit and withdraw methods no longer has the "temporarily unavailable" warning removed.
 - https://btc-e.com/news/88 )

But BitInstant is no longer accepting LR it appears.

I also notice more digital currency exchanges are accepting Bitcoin. 

There's the originals yet, ... Aurum X Change, Nanaimo Gold, WM-Center and Lilion Transfer (and now Bitcoins Direct)
but newly added (or fairly new... like new in 2012) are 
 ECurrencyZone.net
 euromoneychange.com
 fastexchanger.net
 minute-exchange.com

and a few others possibly.  Instead of LR being the common denominator used for exchanging digital currencies it appears Bitcoin is starting to fill that role.

 
hero member
Activity: 868
Merit: 1000
September 15, 2012, 09:14:20 PM
#26
The reports from http://www.talkgold.com/forum/r366628-.html are inconclusive.

Anyone knows more about the LR situation at this point ?
legendary
Activity: 826
Merit: 1001
rippleFanatic
September 05, 2012, 03:27:28 AM
#25

Thanks for this. LR website up but.. no withdrawals!

E-gold was more like Liberty Reserve. Liberty Reserve is now down for maintenance after reports from people getting locked out of their high-value accounts.

This will be an interesting few weeks. Here's what I hope to see:

LR will be gone.
Pirate will be gone.
Bitcoin will remain standing.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
Clown prophet
vip
Activity: 756
Merit: 504
August 30, 2012, 03:06:47 PM
#23
still down


Hit Reload.  It's up.


Incidentally, ...  LR comes back and BTC/USD jumps 7% in a matter of hours?

Coincidence?

Wink we opened the faucet! I guess a lot of people were waiting to unload LR and load BTC.

This is very interesting. Your exchange service must be part of what caused a high volume of transactions in the last hours:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1144449

Aug 30, 2012 00:03:45 (UTC)



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member
Activity: 98
Merit: 10
August 27, 2012, 01:16:37 AM
#22
Confirmed to be up. Hit Shift + Refresh to force reload the page if you still see the maintenance page.
legendary
Activity: 2506
Merit: 1010
August 27, 2012, 12:40:06 AM
#21
still down


Hit Reload.  It's up.


Incidentally, ...  LR comes back and BTC/USD jumps 7% in a matter of hours?

Coincidence?
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
August 26, 2012, 10:57:01 PM
#20
still down
member
Activity: 98
Merit: 10
legendary
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1004
August 26, 2012, 10:27:11 PM
#18
Now back up. 
legendary
Activity: 2506
Merit: 1010
August 24, 2012, 04:10:50 PM
#17
Still down ... Firday Aug 24, 22:00 UTC

Here's another thread on the topic:

 - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/liberty-reserve-still-down-102992
legendary
Activity: 924
Merit: 1004
Firstbits: 1pirata
August 23, 2012, 04:13:41 AM
#16
As the web site appears shortly, you will discover Credit Card Funding option (available ONLY to a verified users),

Whooah!!!!

 Shocked
legendary
Activity: 2506
Merit: 1010
August 23, 2012, 02:04:35 AM
#15
As the web site appears shortly, you will discover Credit Card Funding option (available ONLY to a verified users),

Whooah!!!!
member
Activity: 98
Merit: 10
August 23, 2012, 12:09:21 AM
#14
Additional 2-4 days "maintenance"
http://blog.libertyreserve.com/2012/08/maintenance-update_22.html

Front page looks "normal"
http://www.libertyreserve.com/

but if you go to the real login page, you'll see the maintenance page.
https://www.libertyreserve.com/en/login

For me, it looks like an attempt to cover something up.

Quote
Dear friends, it has come to our attention that some of our customers became concerned with our latest maintenance continuation and erroneous account status change for a group of our clients. Please find below an official explanation of reasons behind both instances:

1. There is a group of blocked accounts which were erroneously blocked by an automated script that was tested in the beginning of August and apparently has failed to perform properly. Script was designed to automatically secure in account in the event of multiple suspicious login attempts. During this maintenance we have identified the problem, addressed it and it is now being solved.

2. Since we were forced to perform extended maintenance, we saw an opportunity to add some of the additional features that were pending to be added to the website. As the web site appears shortly, you will discover Credit Card Funding option (available ONLY to a verified users), along with other minor improvements and enhancements.

We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this maintenance may have brought to you and would like to assure you that both issues are addressed in a timely manner and currently being worked on around the clock for the quickest and safest resolution. During this final stage of maintenance we are identifying erroneously blocked accounts and updating their statuses to "normal". This is a long and tedious process so your patience is appreciated. While we are doing everything possible to bring the system back faster, these processes make take an additional up to 2-4 days to complete.

Any other explanation of this maintenance that you may come across online in various online forums is inaccurate or simply put - false and misleading.

legendary
Activity: 1330
Merit: 1000
August 22, 2012, 12:36:28 PM
#13
The timing here is very suspicious, coming right after a peak in BTC price. That suggests other e-currencies were chasing BTC, a run which may have broken the LR bank.

That is interesting.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
Clown prophet
August 21, 2012, 05:43:41 AM
#12
On hyip forums people say LR had a downtime of two weeks in a year ago or so.
legendary
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Merit: 1001
rippleFanatic
August 21, 2012, 01:30:01 AM
#11
Hard to say.  LR charged enough fees to warrant them continuing operation vs trying to steal the money.  Why would you steal all the money and risk jail etc when all you would have to do is wait 100 days for the same amount to come in fees. 

Something else is going on.... a hack..... government intervention..... who knows??

I think you're overestimating their income on fees. Its not a trading platform like MtGox, so they don't have the same large transaction volume which generates big income from fees. If they took by fractional accounting more than they've earned on fees, they wouldn't turn around and give back those "profits" when the net-flow turned negative. Especially when it was a shady offshore corporation from the get-go, by a couple of russians probably already sitting safe in Russia from Costa Rican law enforcement.

They've had downtime for maintenance before. But I don't believe users have seen reports before of big accounts of $10ks-$100ks being locked down. At this point, the scare is in place and the run will be self-sulfilling if they come back online. Thinking about it, I'd be very surprised to see them come back online and unlock those big accounts.
member
Activity: 98
Merit: 10
August 21, 2012, 12:00:47 AM
#10
I would suggest you to withdraw all your funds there once the "maintenance" is complete, 2 days "maintenance" isn't normal.

It is possible that :

1. "Someone" exchanged significant amount of Bitcoins to LR $ in various "mini" LR account after the "operation" is successful
2. Liberty Reserve doesn't have enough massive "reserve" to cover that up
3. Liberty Reserve goes into "maintenance" mode for 2 days until this pirate incident is clear

Note :
LR is hacker's preferred payout choice during bitcoinica and other bitcoin "hack".
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/public-statement-regarding-bitcoinica-account-hack-at-mtgox-95738

Current maintenance

2 days
Liberty Reserve will be unavailable: From August 20 until August 22,
This upgrade will give you a faster, more productive system.
http://blog.libertyreserve.com/2012/08/scheduled-maintenance-august-20-1100am.html

Previous maintenance :

2 hours
Liberty Reserve will be unavailable on: August 11, between 06:00 (am) and 8:00 (am)(UTC)
http://blog.libertyreserve.com/2012/08/scheduled-maintenance-august-11-0600am.html

2 hours
Liberty Reserve will be unavailable on: May 19, between 06:00 (am) and 8:00 (am)(UTC)
http://blog.libertyreserve.com/2012/05/scheduled-maintenance-may-19-0600am-utc.html

N/A
http://blog.libertyreserve.com/2012/04/scheduled-maintenance-june-18-0800-am.html

1 hour
Liberty Reserve will be unavailable on: 12 March, between 08:00 (am) and 9:00 (am)(UTC)
http://blog.libertyreserve.com/2012/03/scheduled-maintenance-12-march-0800am.html

1 hour
Liberty Reserve will be unavailable on: 28 January, between 08:00am and 9:00am UTC
http://blog.libertyreserve.com/2012/01/scheduled-maintenance-28-january-0800am.html

1 hour
Liberty Reserve will be unavailable on: 26 January, between 10:00am and 11:00am UTC
http://blog.libertyreserve.com/2012/01/scheduled-maintenance-26-january-1000am.html

2 hours
Liberty Reserve will be unavailable on: 21 January, between 08:00am and 10:00am UTC
This upgrade will give you a faster and more productive system.
http://blog.libertyreserve.com/2012/01/scheduled-maintenance-21-january-0800am.html

3 hours
Liberty Reserve will be unavailable on: 05 November, between 07:00 (am) and 10:00 (am)(UTC)
This upgrade will give you a faster, more productive system.
http://blog.libertyreserve.com/2011/03/scheduled-maintenance-10-march-1650-gmt.html

2 hours
Liberty Reserve will be unavailable on: 24 July, between 8:00 and 10:00(GMT)
This upgrade will give you a faster, more productive system.
http://blog.libertyreserve.com/2009/11/scheduled-maintenance-15-november-1200.html

legendary
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1004
August 20, 2012, 11:43:47 PM
#9
I sense the history of e-gold repeating. Perhaps there has been a government raid or demands recently imposed upon liberty reserve? I see no other reason for them to suddenly start blocking accounts, going overdue in maintenance mode, acting unreliable and basically ruining their own business? Will be interesting to see this unfold, I am afraid we might see the death of LR. There is lots of business going on in LR that will need to find a new home. Shame to lose another good payment processor, but hey, maybe bitcoin can take its place?

It wouldn't surprise me if we just saw the last breath of LR. There was always the suspicion that it was a fractional operation. That the operators doubled as exchangers able to give themselves unlimited LR dollars, which they sold for Western Union payments or whatever. Such a scheme would collapse if the net-flow turned negative (like a ponzi).

The timing here is very suspicious, coming right after a peak in BTC price. That suggests other e-currencies were chasing BTC, a run which may have broken the LR bank.

Hard to say.  LR charged enough fees to warrant them continuing operation vs trying to steal the money.  Why would you steal all the money and risk jail etc when all you would have to do is wait 100 days for the same amount to come in fees. 

Something else is going on.... a hack..... government intervention..... who knows??
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