Topic: License for bounty managers - page 2. (Read 592 times)

Bitcointalk has no authority to license anyone for anything, and I'm sure if the government found out about anything like that happening, they'd take a very keen interest in it.

Theymos can run the forum how he wants to, though, and I think that should include some consequences for being a shitty campaign manager.  The managers of bitcoin-paying campaigns are pretty good, but those bounty managers totally suck.  They'll take anyone and I think some of them have even been caught abusing their own bounties with alt accounts.  A lot of them are a bunch of greedy, unethical cretins who are also irresponsible and couldn't care less if the forum gets wrecked because of all the spam.  Theymos could do something about them, but he's into letting people basically do what they want.  

He did make the merit system, which was huge, but I do think he needs to crack down on the managers--but it's not going to be in the form of licensing.

Well, I'm just going by his words.  In the real world, the word "license" means a very specific thing.

My eyes are burning! someone has already nailed it.


The one that gives the idea , and the ones who's fraud.

Rules doesn't mean centralization though. So I'm not really sure what you are trying to say here. Licensing managers would be centralization. But maybe its exactly what we need.

You can consider this topic[1] to be a license for campaign managers.
If advertisers are committed to selecting trusted members, most of the problems will end, but their goal is to get the ad to the most significant number with the lowest possible cost.[pay for shits  ]


[1] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/overview-of-bitcointalk-signature-anti-spam-campaign-managers-4412712

Somehow i don't like the idea. In the first moment it seems to be a good thought, but if i think about it for a while i come to the conclusion that the idea is not very good. It certainly wouldn't change anything in the current situation here in the forum. Besides, it would certainly cause even more problems if some people decide who can work as a bounty manager and who can't. That alone has a lot of potential for a lot of trouble. So i don't think and hope that something like that comes into the forum.   

More rules. Absolutely what people want when they ask for decentralization.

Honestly when people say r/btc is better than bitcointalk, I don't agree with them because there's a lot of FUD and other shit, but now I really think r/btc is better than bitcointalk,maybe I am being delusional at the moment, but bitcointalk is struggling to survive. People have to beg, and go to much lower levels to get tiniest of things done here. I don't want to blame the admins here, but they aren't doing so very well in delegating work.

This forum is also turning into a Battle Royal, to see who survives till the end. It would actually help if theymos can explain why some of the more important suggestions can't be implemented. Just saying 'no' gives us a blank feeling. It would be a long post, but at least then people will get why it can't implemented. People are living here in the dark.

Hello darkness,my old friend.

"What if?" What if we didn't allow ICOs to shit up the forum without repercussions? What if Junior Members couldn't even have a signature without earning some merit first? What if we didn't allow people to shitpost on 200 accounts? What if theymos actually started delegating workload between staff instead of ignoring the multitude of problems we have here? What if theymos actually implements just one of the hundreds of suggestions that have been made to improve the forum over the years? What if, what if, what if? Anything that requires any sort of effort by the admins or staff likely won't get implemented anytime soon if at all and we'll just continue to hide behind "freedom" and a laissez faire attitude. Well, when you let people do whatever they want this is what you get. Anarchy and mass abuse by people cutting corners to maximise profits for themselves whilst not caring about the damage they do in the process. The closest you'll likely get to your suggestion is enforcing the signature campaign guidelines we created. If a campaign comes here and is either lazy and/or incompetent then they should be given warnings and then punishments if nothing changes. If this happened then the culture would quickly change around here and campaigns would start doing their job because they can't afford to not be able to advertise here. As long as we let them get away with doing nothing then they will continue to do so. Nobody is going to do work that they don't need to, especially when running even a small campaign of 50 users likely amounts to the hours of a part time job. Some of these ICO campaigns accept anyone and have thousands of users on them and yet do nothing to police them and as such they are exploited by hundreds of bots and farmers that just exacerbates the problems. They don't care about that either because anyone who is wearing their signature is another person advertising for them whether they're shitposting, botting, or not. Until that changes then nothing else will change.

If members start to avoid spammy bounties then these bounty managers will not get the job to manage shit bounties. They will have to restructure their rules or they will have to disappear.  

Besides, it's not forums job to recommend bounty managers, it's the project team's job to pick a good manager for the success of their projects. If they feel happy with a shit bounty manager then let it be. Let them waste their money (actually they do not waste much money, those tokens are their money which are useless most of the times IMO).

As a community we need to focus on reporting more then creating this kind of suggestion types post. These are useless because theymos does not have much time to look on these issues.

I wonder if theymos is really helping the forum by making this forum a one man army team or making it worse as we are going. I also wonder why does not he still found anyone who he can trust where there are a lot of DTs around us. Does he not trust his own DTs, to help him out with sensitive issues?

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Sorry, I had to spell it. I am with those people who really want the forum to perform better than it is now. One man against hundreds of thousands members seems impossible to me. We are growing in number rapidly but seems like if anything happens (I wish him live long) to theymos then everything will shut down from that very moment. Their will be no bitcoinTalk.org and the community surrounding it (I guess?).

Who's going to screen them? This forum gives users a lot of freedom to say and do as they please. As much as I hate spam, what you're saying could easily be abused to give more power and money to a few users.

What if there's a license for bounty managers? Bounty managers would be screened before giving them the bounty manager license. I think this would help with our problems about shitposting, because bounty managers will surely check the posts of their participants if they failed to do it and reaches the tolerable limit they're licensed will be removed.