Topic: 'Lift the skirt’ campaign urges French schoolboys to skip trousers for a day - page 2. (Read 3722 times)

i don't know how society is in france, so maybe they do expect their boys to dress up in skirts. then again, the people there don't really seem all that docile... seems like they like to protest. wasn't there a lot of protest against same-sex marriage over there?

The words "Fuck off" are usually appropriate if the kind of thing you're talking about is ever attempted and a school that would force people to do things one way or another is not worth attending.

You don't think the little boy's teachers are influential enough in a child's life to heavily influence or even manipulate them? Additionally it is almost always a seemingly innocuous event so that people such as yourself who would rather remain willfully ignorant of this global pattern of events have an easy no thinking out to the question. I challenge you to actually look at this kind of activity as a whole and how this stripping of little boy's male identity is harmful, and is NOT an isolated issue.

Then that would be illegal because they're being threatened, I don't know why people like you are having such a hard time understanding this.

So if some teachers are asking the male students to cross-dress, can a student refuse? Definitely not without harming his educational career. This is what blackmail is all about.

Stop being so paranoid and delusional, they aren't forcing them to do it, I'll only be concerned if the teachers start telling them they have to.

man, if you are a french guy and your name is pronounced "renee" or "michelle," then you might as well be wearing a skirt 

lol.... we are talking about pre-teen schoolchildren here. They probably don't even understand all this BS. BTW... I thought that the French were a bit saner than the English and the Swedish... but seems that I was wrong.

Exactly. Prison. About 70% of the men are there for nonviolent drug possession, mostly marijuana. Possessing a drug which is enjoyed relationally in some other states means someone DESERVES TO BE RAPED IN THE ASS? Does rape not count as cruel and unusual punishment? Put aside your revenge blood thirst for a moment and consider what these men might do after they are freed, even if you wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire.  

Additionally why shouldn't a man have equal rights not to be coerced into sex violently or otherwise? It is a simple task for a woman to threaten a report of rape if the man doesn't comply. How do you prove your innocence? Without any evidence, guess what - you are the one getting raped, in prison. Also why do young boys not have the right not to have their female rapists charged with rape?

so, what.. are the girls supposed to sexually harass the guys in skirts now? the thing is, though, is that the guys would welcome it.

And that is the voice of the reason. Tolerance is one thing and flamboyance is another. If you are gay I have no problem with it. I just do not need to see it.

This is exactly what the homosexual lobby wants. They want to force the men to dress up like women, and the women to dress up like men. If it was voluntary, then I wouldn't have complained. But in this case, it is being coerced. Time has come to end this madness. Cross-dressing and gay pride parades are not a part of tolerance education.

I was reading it with silent approbation, and then I read this:
"Men are more likely to be raped than women"? Where is that place when men gets raped more than a women? The only place that come to my mind is prison...  Get real.

And dank is the crazy one.  Righ

Yes, because women never get together in little groups and discuss plans secretly among themselves....  

I would much rather you bother to read and do your own research. It is far too of a simple task for people to endlessly nitpick and deconstruct sources so they can convince themselves it is not reality. However I will pose some general examples. I challenge you to think critically while researching some of this instead of the standard confirmation of bias glossed over eye approach.

-Men get to disproportionately die in wars.
-Men are expected to do all of the REAL work.
-Male genital mutilation is institutionalized.
-Men get the most dangerous life threatening jobs.
-Men go to prison at about 10 times more often than woman.
-Men have little to no rights over their family and children.
-Men are falling behind in EVERY LEVEL of education.
-Men are legally obligated to provide for their children, and female child support deadbeats are rarely prosecuted.
-Men are excluded from all types of forums by policy or shame while the simple denial of a woman to a man oriented space is itself considered sexist.
-Men are more likely to be raped than women.
-Men had no legal recourse against women for rape until a few years ago because the legal definitions defined rape as penetration.
-Men have very few if any institutions elusively for males, the ones left are constantly under attack.
-Men commit suicide at 3 times the rate of women.

How much 'research' do I need to do exactly? And I've looked, but it's not something I need to spend extensive time studying enough to write a thesis on, but I'll gladly take a look at any links you can show which back up your theory. And I don't think the comparison I made is 'cheap and intellectually lazy' at all, because I just think it's a crazy conspiracy. That's my opinion but feel free to link to to evidence of your thoughts towards this and I'll give it a read.

Ok so sexism against males is now some how on par with Illuminati conspiracies? REALLY?

You confirm you haven't even bothered to look, so how would you know your assumptions are correct, because TV says so? Your whole conspiracy line is cheap and intellectually lazy. If you are so assured of your correctitude what is stopping you from looking? I might add if you don't bother to look you have no authority from which to make these conclusions.

Here is a simple little observational exercise for you. Next time you see what you define as sexism, flip it on its head and ask yourself if people would be equally offended if the female perpetrated the same act on a man. Then check to see if women do in fact do these things. I think you we be forced to reevaluate your own biases against men and women.

Not that many highlander men are effeminate.

Of course, there are misadventures.

And, some do wonder where the trousers are.

It's not something I need to spend much time 'researching', just like I don't need to research the Illuminati's involvement in the missing Malaysia plane to know it's bs. I'm not saying there's no sexism against men, but it pales in comparison to the other way around.

Exactly how much research have you done on the subject of sexism against males? You don't think an institution stripping boys of their male identity is harmful?