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Topic: Lightning Network fraud possible? - page 2. (Read 328 times)

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August 16, 2018, 05:24:51 AM
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What if she refuses though after I pay to her? Is there a way to make it atomic and trustless?
What if she refuses after you pay to her on the current protocol (forget about LN)?

In LN once two party will disagree then they can close the channel. The last balance of the balance-sheet which was successfully signed by the both party will be on count before the channel gets closed. And depending on the last balance of balance-sheet the bitcoin will be sent to both party.  

There are no fraud for LN


update: Alice and Bob came from here?  Cheesy
https://youtu.be/rrr_zPmEiME
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August 16, 2018, 05:17:26 AM
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Trying to understand Lightning Network better, and risks involved.

If I want to pay Bob, and I have opened a channel with Alice, and she has an open channel with Bob, it seems straightforward: I pay to Alice, she pays to Bob.

What if she refuses though after I pay to her? Is there a way to make it atomic and trustless? If so, can anyone point to the description of low-level protocol implementation of this?

The only thing I can think of is streaming satoshi-by-satoshi (you risk only the first satoshi), but that would be extremely verbose, noisy and slow. And if there are more intermediaries in the chain than just Alice, it's even worse.
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