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Quote from: tusandii on April 13, 2023, 09:59:45 AM

Quote from: Distinctin on April 13, 2023, 07:36:45 AM

Bookies want gamblers, that's why they will limit if a gambler keeps winning because they still want them to gamble. However, they will never ban a gambler as long as they don't violate the rules. For OP, he is limited in most gambling sites, so that means he keeps winning. I guess it's not a big problem, though, as he can just convince his friends or relatives to create an account for him.

Actually, instead of making small bets and often getting wins, it's better to bet in a certain time rhythm but with a larger bet amount so that the profits that can be taken are quite large, but on the other hand, the account is not limited by the dealer.
I don't bet too often but when I have enough confidence and there is a big opportunity bet on the bet I will raise it bigger.

It is highly discouraged to ask relatives or family members to create a gambling account because there are casinos that require KYC. In addition, most gamblers do not want their family or relatives to know that they are a gambler.

Well that depends on the type of family, in my case I am not ashamed to say that I play in a casino, because they know that I am very Controlled when it comes to money, it is known that if you enter a casino it is because you have money that you can lose and that there is Nothing else to think about, all the time it is advised that you should put the money that one can lose more than the one that one wants to win, it is impossible to Determine what money one will earn,you have to have a lot of lucky to do it, good to predict and do it.

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Quote from: pop3r5 on April 12, 2023, 02:16:56 PM

Quote from: wiss19 on April 12, 2023, 11:53:40 AM

Quote from: pop3r5 on April 11, 2023, 11:06:52 AM

There's no rule violation.

You get limited as soon as you aren't a braindead sportsbettor, that's it.

If you beat the closing line value, your account is dead instantly.

Only exchanges and pinnacle won't limit you but they don't offer that many markets to bet on.

I've been limited from probably 100+ betting accounts, this isn't mafia, rule violation, scam or whatever, I just have better odds models and quicker to adjust than the bookies, so they shut you down cause they don't want any profitable bettor.

Yes, they'll let you win if you're lucky and win betting on dumb stuff, but you're out if you beat their closing odds, even if your bet lose.

That can't be said for the trusted bookies like Stake or many others that are operating out there, they wouldn't limit a gambler only because they win their bets, but they will surely do it if they suspiciously win every single bet that they place which surely raises a red flag about the player, and not every single casino will limit the same player for that one issue you mentioned.

OP has probably violated some rule that every casino has in their terms and conditions and that is the reason why he is limited in almost all of the platforms. Helping him in anyway would only get the helper in trouble if suspected.

You don't know enough about this industry, Stake will limit you too if you win on good bets, not if you win on lucky random bets. If I bet over 210pts on a Nba game the day before the match and the final closing line is 216 over under. You get limited and kick off any bookie in the world not named Pinnacle or exchanges.

I could send you 5 good sharp bets, you place them on your Stake account, and I guarantee you 100% you get limited and banned.

I can confirm stake limits..I am proof of it lol

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Quote from: Distinctin on April 13, 2023, 07:36:45 AM

Bookies want gamblers, that's why they will limit if a gambler keeps winning because they still want them to gamble. However, they will never ban a gambler as long as they don't violate the rules. For OP, he is limited in most gambling sites, so that means he keeps winning. I guess it's not a big problem, though, as he can just convince his friends or relatives to create an account for him.

Actually, instead of making small bets and often getting wins, it's better to bet in a certain time rhythm but with a larger bet amount so that the profits that can be taken are quite large, but on the other hand, the account is not limited by the dealer.
I don't bet too often but when I have enough confidence and there is a big opportunity bet on the bet I will raise it bigger.

It is highly discouraged to ask relatives or family members to create a gambling account because there are casinos that require KYC. In addition, most gamblers do not want their family or relatives to know that they are a gambler.

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Looks like op got screwed by placing a lot of winning bets on smaller leagues which is why his proposition could grant huge rewards, but it could also screw your accounts up which is why it isn't advisable.

It's better to gamble on your own instead of adding in this extra layer of risk in my honest opinion.

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Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on April 13, 2023, 08:36:47 AM

And "my industry", what are you talking about? I am old enough to have an over 20 year experience. Yesterday you wrote me a PM because you saw I commented I am as well limited at many sites. Back in 2001 Bwin (my first real bookie) limited me to 100$ , then to 25$ and then to 0.10$. That's when it started. In other words, I know this business.

In your message this all sounded a little different: "I'm quite new to the crypto game and thought maybe this could be a good out to place bets. I'm betting mainly niche markets and low tiers league."

Of course if you bet niche markets and small leagues you are more likely on their radar. Still not after 1 bet.

Anyway, hope you keep winning, good luck.

I'm new to crypto bookies, i'm trying to find new outs cause I can't bet shit anywhere, since yesterday, been limited from 2 crypto ones already. The thing is you can either destroy small markets at a 15-20% clip or main ones at 3%. I still do all my main ones on asian bookies brokers where they don't limit but betting my monthly turnover on a 2-3% yield versus on a 20% yield isn't exactly as profitable so everytime I'm out of accounts, I go back to sportmarket asia and stake there.

Anyway, no clue why I try to explain OP problem, i guess it just pains that these bookies pratices aren't exposed and people still think bookies allow people to win.

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Quote from: pop3r5 on April 13, 2023, 08:21:53 AM

Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on April 13, 2023, 07:27:47 AM

Quote from: pop3r5 on April 12, 2023, 02:16:56 PM

I could send you 5 good sharp bets, you place them on your Stake account, and I guarantee you 100% you get limited and banned.

In general you are right. You win and you look like what you are doing and not like a degen gambler you will most likely get flagged as a "non profitable player" .

Getting limited for 5 "sharp bets" is nonsense I think.
If your bets are so sharp then you should be a rich guy then.

First of all it always depends on your overall +/- for deposits and withdrawals if an account gets limited. Also of course your recent gameplay, but not 5 bets only.

If you don't withdraw your winnings after every win then you won't get flagged that easy.

When you only bet 2 or 3 sports like I did in the past they will also think you are more than a recreative player. Gamblers bet on everything that's available while people that take it serious specialize on a handful of sports where they have knowledge about.

Bookies want recreative players, that's how it's always been.

This is not your industry, it's okay not knowing the in and outs of a business you're not in.

I sometimes get limited at the first sharp bet, not even 5 bets, new account without profiling or history, first one, rip, hello BetVictor, hello Bwin, hello william hill, hello Sportsbet, one good bet and you're out already so there's is no withdraw/deposit parameters nor there's is multisports criteria.

Almost impossible to become rich cause you can't stake anything anywhere, we're chasing new bookies everyday.

The things you did in the past doesnt matter, you did shit bets on random events, of course they won't ban or limit you even if you win 100 000$. It's all about beating the CLV, closing line value, if you do, whether or not you win the bet you're out. You can lose the said 1st bet and limited while on the red. You won't get limited ever if you win by beating them while betting the over under on Nba 3minutes before the match, cause this is pure luck, the line and odds they offer at kickoff are ''perfect'', the odds and lines has been sharpened out by the good players in the previous hours and days.

Hmm, ok whatever you say. Seems like you got it all figured out, limited after 1 bet, smh.

And "my industry", what are you talking about? I am old enough to have an over 20 year experience. Yesterday you wrote me a PM because you saw I commented I am as well limited at many sites. Back in 2001 Bwin (my first real bookie) limited me to 100$ , then to 25$ and then to 0.10$. That's when it started. In other words, I know this business.

In your message this all sounded a little different: "I'm quite new to the crypto game and thought maybe this could be a good out to place bets. I'm betting mainly niche markets and low tiers league."

Of course if you bet niche markets and small leagues you are more likely on their radar. Still not after 1 bet.

Anyway, hope you keep winning, good luck.

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Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on April 13, 2023, 07:27:47 AM

Quote from: pop3r5 on April 12, 2023, 02:16:56 PM

I could send you 5 good sharp bets, you place them on your Stake account, and I guarantee you 100% you get limited and banned.

In general you are right. You win and you look like what you are doing and not like a degen gambler you will most likely get flagged as a "non profitable player" .

Getting limited for 5 "sharp bets" is nonsense I think.
If your bets are so sharp then you should be a rich guy then.

First of all it always depends on your overall +/- for deposits and withdrawals if an account gets limited. Also of course your recent gameplay, but not 5 bets only.

If you don't withdraw your winnings after every win then you won't get flagged that easy.

When you only bet 2 or 3 sports like I did in the past they will also think you are more than a recreative player. Gamblers bet on everything that's available while people that take it serious specialize on a handful of sports where they have knowledge about.

Bookies want recreative players, that's how it's always been.

This is not your industry, it's okay not knowing the in and outs of a business you're not in.

I sometimes get limited at the first sharp bet, not even 5 bets, new account without profiling or history, first one, rip, hello BetVictor, hello Bwin, hello william hill, hello Sportsbet, one good bet and you're out already so there's is no withdraw/deposit parameters nor there's is multisports criteria.

Almost impossible to become rich cause you can't stake anything anywhere, we're chasing new bookies everyday.

The things you did in the past doesnt matter, you did shit bets on random events, of course they won't ban or limit you even if you win 100 000$. It's all about beating the CLV, closing line value, if you do, whether or not you win the bet you're out. You can lose the said 1st bet and limited while on the red. You won't get limited ever if you win by beating them while betting the over under on Nba 3minutes before the match, cause this is pure luck, the line and odds they offer at kickoff are ''perfect'', the odds and lines has been sharpened out by the good players in the previous hours and days.

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Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on April 13, 2023, 07:27:47 AM

Bookies want recreative players, that's how it's always been.

Bookies want gamblers, that's why they will limit if a gambler keeps winning because they still want them to gamble. However, they will never ban a gambler as long as they don't violate the rules. For OP, he is limited in most gambling sites, so that means he keeps winning. I guess it's not a big problem, though, as he can just convince his friends or relatives to create an account for him.

Why choose here when you don't know the users, and it might be a red flag that way?

@OP, maybe try to be more transparent here. Personally, I don't like the words "PM" when it comes to opportunities, as it mostly disappoints me.

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Quote from: pop3r5 on April 12, 2023, 02:16:56 PM

I could send you 5 good sharp bets, you place them on your Stake account, and I guarantee you 100% you get limited and banned.

In general you are right. You win and you look like what you are doing and not like a degen gambler you will most likely get flagged as a "non profitable player" .

Getting limited for 5 "sharp bets" is nonsense I think.
If your bets are so sharp then you should be a rich guy then.

First of all it always depends on your overall +/- for deposits and withdrawals if an account gets limited. Also of course your recent gameplay, but not 5 bets only.

If you don't withdraw your winnings after every win then you won't get flagged that easy.

When you only bet 2 or 3 sports like I did in the past they will also think you are more than a recreative player. Gamblers bet on everything that's available while people that take it serious specialize on a handful of sports where they have knowledge about.

Bookies want recreative players, that's how it's always been.

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Quote from: Ronsbit on April 11, 2023, 06:54:02 PM

Quote from: muster21 on April 11, 2023, 07:27:29 AM

1xbet refused to pay more than 20k euros to me, also to my friends, They are scam site. IF you winning, they will refuse to pay you even if you ask all documents.
Very dogy people and site https://www.casino.org/news/1xbet-reportedly-bankrupt-following-case-in-front-of-the-european-court/

So sorry abut your experience with 1xbet. They are a scam casino infamous for their scam activities on their casino. They have scammed so many of their members and their reputation here is dented and account flagged for scamming people of their hard earned resources. They are also running a campaign here and virtually all the campaigners and promoters have been flagged for dealing and helping them to promote their scam site. @Alisha you are advising to make use of 1xbet after fully aware of the state of 1xbet presence here . Do you want him to be scammed. Do well to do your own research before engaging 1xbet so that " had i known" will not be your thoughts after being scammed by them.

The user who is referring them to 1xbet or 1xbit is one of their signature campaign participants and they are paid to promote the website, so it's obvious that they will suggest that casino but it's a gamblers own responsibility to choose a platform that they know is trusted and will not scam them out of their money.

For OP's case, he is already tagged himself to be a violator since he is limited in almost every bookie or gambling platform out there, so I'm not sure if he would get any help from anyone unless he is proven not guilty.

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Quote from: wiss19 on April 12, 2023, 11:53:40 AM

That can't be said for the trusted bookies like Stake or many others that are operating out there, they wouldn't limit a gambler only because they win their bets, but they will surely do it if they suspiciously win every single bet that they place which surely raises a red flag about the player, and not every single casino will limit the same player for that one issue you mentioned.

OP has probably violated some rule that every casino has in their terms and conditions and that is the reason why he is limited in almost all of the platforms. Helping him in anyway would only get the helper in trouble if suspected.

I agree with @pop3r5 please avoid spreading fake news while not even belonging to their campaign, there are enough paid shillers spreading BS about them on all threads. If you read carefully all the threads opened against them here, you won't say that anymore. They really look more dishonest and unprofessional than most of fiat bookies. They have no scruples about limiting or banning winners without notice, even if they used to spend large amounts of money in the past.

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Quote from: wiss19 on April 12, 2023, 11:53:40 AM

Quote from: pop3r5 on April 11, 2023, 11:06:52 AM

There's no rule violation.

You get limited as soon as you aren't a braindead sportsbettor, that's it.

If you beat the closing line value, your account is dead instantly.

Only exchanges and pinnacle won't limit you but they don't offer that many markets to bet on.

I've been limited from probably 100+ betting accounts, this isn't mafia, rule violation, scam or whatever, I just have better odds models and quicker to adjust than the bookies, so they shut you down cause they don't want any profitable bettor.

Yes, they'll let you win if you're lucky and win betting on dumb stuff, but you're out if you beat their closing odds, even if your bet lose.

That can't be said for the trusted bookies like Stake or many others that are operating out there, they wouldn't limit a gambler only because they win their bets, but they will surely do it if they suspiciously win every single bet that they place which surely raises a red flag about the player, and not every single casino will limit the same player for that one issue you mentioned.

OP has probably violated some rule that every casino has in their terms and conditions and that is the reason why he is limited in almost all of the platforms. Helping him in anyway would only get the helper in trouble if suspected.

You don't know enough about this industry, Stake will limit you too if you win on good bets, not if you win on lucky random bets. If I bet over 210pts on a Nba game the day before the match and the final closing line is 216 over under. You get limited and kick off any bookie in the world not named Pinnacle or exchanges.

I could send you 5 good sharp bets, you place them on your Stake account, and I guarantee you 100% you get limited and banned.

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Quote from: pop3r5 on April 11, 2023, 11:06:52 AM

There's no rule violation.

You get limited as soon as you aren't a braindead sportsbettor, that's it.

If you beat the closing line value, your account is dead instantly.

Only exchanges and pinnacle won't limit you but they don't offer that many markets to bet on.

I've been limited from probably 100+ betting accounts, this isn't mafia, rule violation, scam or whatever, I just have better odds models and quicker to adjust than the bookies, so they shut you down cause they don't want any profitable bettor.

Yes, they'll let you win if you're lucky and win betting on dumb stuff, but you're out if you beat their closing odds, even if your bet lose.

That can't be said for the trusted bookies like Stake or many others that are operating out there, they wouldn't limit a gambler only because they win their bets, but they will surely do it if they suspiciously win every single bet that they place which surely raises a red flag about the player, and not every single casino will limit the same player for that one issue you mentioned.

OP has probably violated some rule that every casino has in their terms and conditions and that is the reason why he is limited in almost all of the platforms. Helping him in anyway would only get the helper in trouble if suspected.

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Quote from: muster21 on April 11, 2023, 07:27:29 AM

Quote from: Alisha-k on April 10, 2023, 06:40:47 PM

I’ve been using 1xBet, betway and Frapapa, is this info also of any use to you?? You could also use any of this if you're sure you aren't skipping any of the rules the reason why they're limiting you.

1xbet refused to pay more than 20k euros to me, also to my friends, They are scam site. IF you winning, they will refuse to pay you even if you ask all documents.
Very dogy people and site https://www.casino.org/news/1xbet-reportedly-bankrupt-following-case-in-front-of-the-european-court/

So sorry abut your experience with 1xbet. They are a scam casino infamous for their scam activities on their casino. They have scammed so many of their members and their reputation here is dented and account flagged for scamming people of their hard earned resources. They are also running a campaign here and virtually all the campaigners and promoters have been flagged for dealing and helping them to promote their scam site. @Alisha you are advising to make use of 1xbet after fully aware of the state of 1xbet presence here . Do you want him to be scammed. Do well to do your own research before engaging 1xbet so that " had i known" will not be your thoughts after being scammed by them.

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Quote from: pop3r5 on April 11, 2023, 11:06:52 AM

There's no rule violation.

You get limited as soon as you aren't a braindead sportsbettor, that's it.

If you beat the closing line value, your account is dead instantly.

Only exchanges and pinnacle won't limit you but they don't offer that many markets to bet on.

I've been limited from probably 100+ betting accounts, this isn't mafia, rule violation, scam or whatever, I just have better odds models and quicker to adjust than the bookies, so they shut you down cause they don't want any profitable bettor.

Yes, they'll let you win if you're lucky and win betting on dumb stuff, but you're out if you beat their closing odds, even if your bet lose.

Some books are lazy and just ban after a certain amount won.

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Quote from: danadc on April 11, 2023, 02:49:17 PM

Quote from: Webetcoins on April 11, 2023, 10:54:30 AM

Quote from: slapper on April 10, 2023, 02:01:09 AM

Wow, an offer I can't refuse? That sounds too good to be true! Let me just check my list of things to do today: go for a run, do some laundry, oh, and help a complete stranger engage in illegal activity by placing bets on their behalf. Wait, what?!

I'm sorry, but I have to keep myself a great distance from you. Offering to use someone else's betting account is not only unethical, it's also against the terms of service for most online bookmakers. And if you're already limited by almost every platform out there, that's a clear sign that something isn't right.

Rather than bypassing the rules, how about unraveling the reasons you're on those blacklists to begin with? Maybe it's a miscommunication or an error that can be fixed. Or perhaps, just perhaps, you've dipped your toes into some dubious dealings that are haunting you. In any case, it's best to tackle the repercussions and march on with integrity.

Well, he probably have tried to deal with the situation himself first before coming in here asking for someone else's help for placing bets by making an offer that no one can refuse but ironically, the offer is being refused by almost every single gambler out there without even bothering to ask him if what the offer actually is, lol.

The fact that he is limited in almost all gambling platforms give it all away, and someone would probably not get involved in helping someone who might have done something very wrong, or at least have violated a universal casino rule which has caused him being in this state.

It is something very delicate, but I think that the kyc process does something good here and it is to determine who does or does not do activities that are fraudulent, in this case the casino systems have blacklists and they pass them on to everyone? Is it like in real life in a normal casino that is not online? Because this surprises me, because the only way for someone to be totally banned is if they have passed their data among all the casinos to take care of people like him, if he is betaed it is because he does things that go against the terms and conditions.

Take a look on the links he send if you want to learn about how bookies operate :
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/feb/19/stake-factoring-how-bookies-clamp-down-on-successful-gamblers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABj7peI_R2M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJEM2_3QJSs

You get ban very very fast if you're good, you get limited for making good bets. But you can win on shit bets cause that's luck and they'll get you in the long run so they don't mind.

For example, if 2 days ago you bet the Lakers to win vs Timberwolves at 1.70 odds. The game is tonight and now the odds are now 1.25, bookie will limit you no matter what is the result for the game, cause they see you made a good bet and beat the closing line odds.

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Quote from: Webetcoins on April 11, 2023, 10:54:30 AM

Quote from: slapper on April 10, 2023, 02:01:09 AM

Wow, an offer I can't refuse? That sounds too good to be true! Let me just check my list of things to do today: go for a run, do some laundry, oh, and help a complete stranger engage in illegal activity by placing bets on their behalf. Wait, what?!

I'm sorry, but I have to keep myself a great distance from you. Offering to use someone else's betting account is not only unethical, it's also against the terms of service for most online bookmakers. And if you're already limited by almost every platform out there, that's a clear sign that something isn't right.

Rather than bypassing the rules, how about unraveling the reasons you're on those blacklists to begin with? Maybe it's a miscommunication or an error that can be fixed. Or perhaps, just perhaps, you've dipped your toes into some dubious dealings that are haunting you. In any case, it's best to tackle the repercussions and march on with integrity.

Well, he probably have tried to deal with the situation himself first before coming in here asking for someone else's help for placing bets by making an offer that no one can refuse but ironically, the offer is being refused by almost every single gambler out there without even bothering to ask him if what the offer actually is, lol.

The fact that he is limited in almost all gambling platforms give it all away, and someone would probably not get involved in helping someone who might have done something very wrong, or at least have violated a universal casino rule which has caused him being in this state.

It is something very delicate, but I think that the kyc process does something good here and it is to determine who does or does not do activities that are fraudulent, in this case the casino systems have blacklists and they pass them on to everyone? Is it like in real life in a normal casino that is not online? Because this surprises me, because the only way for someone to be totally banned is if they have passed their data among all the casinos to take care of people like him, if he is betaed it is because he does things that go against the terms and conditions.

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There's no rule violation.

You get limited as soon as you aren't a braindead sportsbettor, that's it.

If you beat the closing line value, your account is dead instantly.

Only exchanges and pinnacle won't limit you but they don't offer that many markets to bet on.

I've been limited from probably 100+ betting accounts, this isn't mafia, rule violation, scam or whatever, I just have better odds models and quicker to adjust than the bookies, so they shut you down cause they don't want any profitable bettor.

Yes, they'll let you win if you're lucky and win betting on dumb stuff, but you're out if you beat their closing odds, even if your bet lose.

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Quote from: slapper on April 10, 2023, 02:01:09 AM

Wow, an offer I can't refuse? That sounds too good to be true! Let me just check my list of things to do today: go for a run, do some laundry, oh, and help a complete stranger engage in illegal activity by placing bets on their behalf. Wait, what?!

I'm sorry, but I have to keep myself a great distance from you. Offering to use someone else's betting account is not only unethical, it's also against the terms of service for most online bookmakers. And if you're already limited by almost every platform out there, that's a clear sign that something isn't right.

Rather than bypassing the rules, how about unraveling the reasons you're on those blacklists to begin with? Maybe it's a miscommunication or an error that can be fixed. Or perhaps, just perhaps, you've dipped your toes into some dubious dealings that are haunting you. In any case, it's best to tackle the repercussions and march on with integrity.

Well, he probably have tried to deal with the situation himself first before coming in here asking for someone else's help for placing bets by making an offer that no one can refuse but ironically, the offer is being refused by almost every single gambler out there without even bothering to ask him if what the offer actually is, lol.

The fact that he is limited in almost all gambling platforms give it all away, and someone would probably not get involved in helping someone who might have done something very wrong, or at least have violated a universal casino rule which has caused him being in this state.

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The limitation of successful bettors is not so that they can stay profitable, but so that they can make much more profit than they already do by targeting problem gamblers and getting rid of anyone who dares to win.

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