Lingham, Perklin, Pouliot named to Bitcoin Foundation Board / Mission Statement - page 2.

BruceFenton

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Quote from: franky1 on December 22, 2015, 10:09:43 PM

for someone to make such a mission statement as:

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1) Fostering Core Development

2) Furthering education & adoption

3) Working to limit harmful regulations and encourage technical rather than regulatory solutions

you have to atleast have some idea of plans to achieve these.

This plan was just released for member comment today and our meeting had other items on it including three new board members.

There are some ideas on the how portion of this -- for example DevCore under the 1st item and the speakers bureau under the 2nd. We don't promise to be earth shattering -- just to help Bitcoin in the ways which are possible.

We also won't focus on the action items until we get more member feedback on the plan itself to see if these are even indeed the items we should focus on. So far it seems popular but it's only been a day.

Thanks very much

Blawpaw

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Just hope these new guys are not like the older ones and do something for real! If the foundation is going to prevail they need to start to have a close link with the rest of the community.

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for someone to make such a mission statement as:

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1) Fostering Core Development

2) Furthering education & adoption

3) Working to limit harmful regulations and encourage technical rather than regulatory solutions

you have to atleast have some idea of plans to achieve these.
please do not just say it will be discussed in the future. atleast tell the world what the foundation (in real world actions and work) will do. what actual things the foundation will physically do..
without waffling about meeting discussions and board room voting and please do not say setting up committee's as that is just more office gossiping.. i mean real world things outside the office that impact and affect the real world population that have never used bitcoin.

so please tell us.. what will the bitcoin foundation actually do to the outside world.
so far all i see is PAID conventions

BruceFenton

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Quote from: unamis76 on December 22, 2015, 06:54:59 PM

I guess now we're talking. Please do surprise me

And don't forget about those detailed finance/accounting reports...

We have been releasing this information, to be totally honest I don't think people read it.

The IRS Form 880 and minutes are released.

The minutes have at times even been in near transcript format.

Our burn rate now is $7-8k a month - that covers things like web hosting, fixed costs, a part time bookkeeper and a near full time ops person.

unamis76

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Quote from: BruceFenton on December 22, 2015, 05:03:06 PM

Quote from: unamis76 on December 22, 2015, 04:40:57 PM

Three new board seats? What, three new seats for people to enjoy football player-like salaries and paid expenses? Roll Eyes

Just to be clear, no board member recieves a salary. There are also no expenses paid for board members.

The Executive Director role used to be paid and is now also volunteer, some minimal out of pocket expenses are reimbursed.

It is correct that the Bitcoin Foundation overspent in the past. No one involved with those decisions is still with the foundation.

We can only do what we can moving forward.

I'd urge people to look at the actual mission statement and make comments. The Bitcoin Foundation is here and exists, most productive thing is to see how we can most effectively have this organization serve Bitcoin.

I guess now we're talking. Please do surprise me

And don't forget about those detailed finance/accounting reports...

bobcaticus

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put it out of it's suffering and let it die.

siameze

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Quote from: BruceFenton on December 22, 2015, 05:41:29 PM

So you are saying that you think I am lying when I say there are no board or ED salaries?

The financial records have been released, yes, the website needs work, it's been improving since a new webmaster (also volunteer) came aboard.

No, I simply said "I'll believe it when I see it". I have no issues calling a liar a liar if they are in fact lying. That isn't the case here.

The onus is on The Bitcoin Foundation, which has done nothing but paint themselves fools since inception, to show us why this changing of the guard matters at all. I have to agree with Olivier Janssens that the whole thing should be dissolved, as there continues to be no direction or plan besides the same circlejerk everyone has seen for years.

r/bitcoin is an echo-chamber for sure, but a lot of people made some good points here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3wyt85/ive_just_been_forcibly_removed_from_the_bitcoin/

Also from: https://github.com/BruceFenton/bitcoinfoundationplan

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The foundation Chief Scientist is Gavin Andresen.

This is the funniest of all. Your "Chief Scientist" sure has acted like a petulant child because no one in the community wanted XT.

BruceFenton

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So you are saying that you think I am lying when I say there are no board or ED salaries?

The financial records have been released, yes, the website needs work, it's been improving since a new webmaster (also volunteer) came aboard.

siameze

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Quote from: BruceFenton on December 22, 2015, 05:03:06 PM

Quote from: unamis76 on December 22, 2015, 04:40:57 PM

Three new board seats? What, three new seats for people to enjoy football player-like salaries and paid expenses? Roll Eyes

Just to be clear, no board member recieves a salary. There are also no expenses paid for board members.

The Executive Director role used to be paid and is now also volunteer, some minimal out of pocket expenses are reimbursed.

It is correct that the Bitcoin Foundation overspent in the past. No one involved with those decisions is still with the foundation.

We can only do what we can moving forward.

I'd urge people to look at the actual mission statement and make comments. The Bitcoin Foundation is here and exists, most productive thing is to see how we can most effectively have this organization serve Bitcoin.

I'll believe this when I see it. You guys have yelled transparency and make unprovable statements, yet this still doesn't work: https://bitcoinfoundation.org/transparency/
Spring of 2015 has long passed, and 2016 is upon us. Does it take that long to cook the books? I mean, that giant donation button at the bottom of the page still works.

BruceFenton

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Quote from: unamis76 on December 22, 2015, 04:40:57 PM

Three new board seats? What, three new seats for people to enjoy football player-like salaries and paid expenses? Roll Eyes

Just to be clear, no board member recieves a salary. There are also no expenses paid for board members.

The Executive Director role used to be paid and is now also volunteer, some minimal out of pocket expenses are reimbursed.

It is correct that the Bitcoin Foundation overspent in the past. No one involved with those decisions is still with the foundation.

We can only do what we can moving forward.

I'd urge people to look at the actual mission statement and make comments. The Bitcoin Foundation is here and exists, most productive thing is to see how we can most effectively have this organization serve Bitcoin.

unamis76

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Three new board seats? What, three new seats for people to enjoy football player-like salaries and paid expenses? Roll Eyes

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6. The board voted to continue the existence of the foundation.. Approved unanimously.

I guess all those perks of being from the Foundation paid off and for all of you to continue with this is because you're not really bankrupt...

Your mission statement is amazing. Now you guys just have to apply it without having any scandals throughout the way, or members ending up being scammers.

Excuse me for the harsh comments, but based on recent news and actions of the Foundation, you guys are just useless. You have to REALLY do a good job now and impress if you want to continue and have your reputation back up.

siameze

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Quote from: DooMAD on December 22, 2015, 04:26:44 PM

We were told that previous change of leadership was supposed to turn the foundation around, so I don't see how this one will yield better results. It's still a festering sinkhole for money and it's probably never going to change.

Literally, the only purpose it serves is to prove that such outdated governance models don't work. All centralised systems are prone to corruption and you're doing a fantastic job of demonstrating that.

They have done an awesome job of showing us who not to trust - Charlie Shrem, Mark Karpeles, etc. Gavin Andresen has made a laughingstock of you all with this XT business as well.

DooMAD

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Leave no FUD unchallenged

We were told that previous change of leadership was supposed to turn the foundation around, so I don't see how this one will yield better results. It's still a festering sinkhole for money and it's probably never going to change.

Literally, the only purpose it serves is to prove that such outdated governance models don't work. All centralised systems are prone to corruption and you're doing a fantastic job of demonstrating that.

siameze

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Please just disband your foundation already. All you guys do is spend insane amounts of money to do nothing that promotes wider adoption of bitcoin.

EDIT: Removed my previous kiddy-diddler comment until more compelling evidence surfaces.

BruceFenton

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New Bitcoin Foundation Mission Statement was published for comment.

Three new board seats were announced as well.

The foundation also removed Satoshi Nakamoto as a founding member and made that seat an optional one on the grounds that we don't have any indication Satoshi agreed to this.

http://bitcoinfoundation.org/previous-candidates-lingham-perklin-pouliot-appointed-to-board-draft-mission-statement-approved-for-comment/

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