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Quote from: Melbustus on November 26, 2013, 06:44:03 PM

The Ron and Shamir "research" is now officially debunked:

http://blog.dustintrammell.com/2013/11/26/i-am-not-satoshi/

This was the "AHA guy" I was referring to in my previous post. Really weak investigation by Ron and Shamir, the address they link to Satoshi has always been very publicly linked to Dustin aka Druid.

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Quote from: lindatess on November 25, 2013, 12:47:08 AM

Well DPR did say he went on to create an economic simulation in his social media account.

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To that end, I am creating an economic simulation to give people a first-hand experience of what it would be like to live in a world without the systemic use of force."

It would have been pretty hard to know or get involved with bitcoin in the early stages. I think it would have been spread to close friends of Satoshi, which undoubtedly could be one of themselves. It was some time after that it was posted to a cryptography BBS.

BBS?

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The Ron and Shamir "research" is now officially debunked:

http://blog.dustintrammell.com/2013/11/26/i-am-not-satoshi/

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If DPR is (and always was) Ulbricht then I think we would know by now if he was Satoshi.

LE have Ulbrichts computer and most likely access to all his online accounts. Given Ulbrichts track record of data security, they'll probably have access to all his e-mails and files from the past 5 years at least (after all, he did get caught.)

I think if anyone would leap at the opportunity to prove beyond reasonable suspicion that Bitcoin was made by a criminal to buy and sell drugs, it would be LE.

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Quote from: trout on November 25, 2013, 11:13:15 AM

10k worth of shrooms? No wonder he doesn't have time to post

That's enough of something to get to the moon.

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10k worth of shrooms? No wonder he doesn't have time to post

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Quote from: trout on November 25, 2013, 08:59:25 AM

one of the early adopters bought some shrooms on SR.
What's the big deal?

Well even at the time it is was >10k USD.

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one of the early adopters bought some shrooms on SR.
What's the big deal?

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Transaction IDs or it didn't happen.

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Wasn't the originating address (https://blockchain.info/address/12higDjoCCNXSA95xZMWUdPvXNmkAduhWv) have already been linked to one of the "AHA guys" who was believed to be Satoshi at some point, and that cashed out a significant chunk in 2011?

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Quote from: beetcoin on November 25, 2013, 02:35:21 AM

Quote from: lindatess on November 25, 2013, 12:47:08 AM

Well DPR did say he went on to create an economic simulation in his social media account.

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To that end, I am creating an economic simulation to give people a first-hand experience of what it would be like to live in a world without the systemic use of force."

It would have been pretty hard to know or get involved with bitcoin in the early stages. I think it would have been spread to close friends of Satoshi, which undoubtedly could be one of themselves. It was some time after that it was posted to a cryptography BBS.

i think that conclusion makes the most sense with what we know at this point. it was launched in february 2011 though, about 2 years after bitcoin's inception.

If Satoshi was not an individual, but a group, than a "branch" of Satoshi could be DPR as well.

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Quote from: lindatess on November 25, 2013, 12:47:08 AM

Well DPR did say he went on to create an economic simulation in his social media account.

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To that end, I am creating an economic simulation to give people a first-hand experience of what it would be like to live in a world without the systemic use of force."

It would have been pretty hard to know or get involved with bitcoin in the early stages. I think it would have been spread to close friends of Satoshi, which undoubtedly could be one of themselves. It was some time after that it was posted to a cryptography BBS.

i think that conclusion makes the most sense with what we know at this point. it was launched in february 2011 though, about 2 years after bitcoin's inception.

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Well DPR did say he went on to create an economic simulation in his social media account.

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To that end, I am creating an economic simulation to give people a first-hand experience of what it would be like to live in a world without the systemic use of force."

It would have been pretty hard to know or get involved with bitcoin in the early stages. I think it would have been spread to close friends of Satoshi, which undoubtedly could be one of themselves. It was some time after that it was posted to a cryptography BBS.

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Maybe DPR is Satoshi?

edit oops just seen previous post

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DPR is maybe Satoshi? Wink

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Among their discoveries was a particular transfer to an account controlled by Mr. Ulbricht from another that had been created in January 2009, during the very earliest days of the bitcoin network, which was set up the previous year.

Although the authors state that they cannot prove that that account belongs to the person who created the bitcoin currency, it is widely believed that the first accounts belong to a person who identifies himself as “Satoshi Nakamoto,” but who has remained anonymous and has not been publicly heard from since 2010.

So the only thing they have to go on is that the "account" (a misunderstanding of how Bitcoin works) is old and not many people were mining at the time. That's it. That's all they've got.

Sure, it could be Satoshi, but the article is very badly written and assumes there's more "there" there than there is. Satoshi didn't design the software by himself. In fact, notes in the earliest 2009 editions indicate "we" - clearly multiple people were working with him on the software at the time, and/or there were more than a few people helping him bug-test it.

http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=21313152

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Quote from: Remember remember the 5th of November on November 24, 2013, 08:33:40 PM

Quote from: seanneko on November 23, 2013, 07:49:39 PM

Just stumbled across this article:

http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/11/23/study-suggests-link-between-dread-pirate-roberts-and-satoshi-nakamoto/

Apparently one of Satoshi's early wallets transferred 1,000 BTC to DPR's wallet.

Does anyone have a link to said transaction? Thoughts?

Perhaps it's this one? https://blockchain.info/tx/2ccc3f59d28c709770a8bc478b112e10feda4bf55197c2e48deaa0eb6bca0311

According to the article, the transfer was made on March 20th, 2013 from "an account...that had been created in January 2009". Perhaps that means from an address that had been created in January 2009? Does that mean from a coin that was created in January 2009? Or just the address (in which case, it's address reuse which in my opinion implies that it probably isn't Satoshi)? Or maybe just some group of addresses that the researchers believe are linked together?

It's shoddy journalism, so it really could mean just about anything.

Nope, while addresses are not timestamped when created, the transaction that it appears in is timestamped.

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Still nothing published. My comments on hn were downvoted because I called the article linkbait, and frankly, it's looking more and more like FUD. Hanlon's razor applies though. Oh well, let's wait four more hours...

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Quote from: seanneko on November 23, 2013, 07:49:39 PM

Just stumbled across this article:

http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/11/23/study-suggests-link-between-dread-pirate-roberts-and-satoshi-nakamoto/

Apparently one of Satoshi's early wallets transferred 1,000 BTC to DPR's wallet.

Does anyone have a link to said transaction? Thoughts?

Perhaps it's this one? https://blockchain.info/tx/2ccc3f59d28c709770a8bc478b112e10feda4bf55197c2e48deaa0eb6bca0311

And the earliest of the inputs is this one I think https://blockchain.info/tx-index/427/0. At that time, only a handful of people were mining including Satoshi.

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I don't think Satoshi was someone who had something against a market like SR, don't believe he funded it though.

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