Topic: Linux is such a horrible OS (for casual users) - page 5. (Read 7072 times)

Hello, Just a small guy here relatively new to Linux.

I had the hypothesis that most casual users think windows is easier and more user friendly because we simply very used to Windows  in our early day dealing with computers. So I introduced Linux to my siblings and relatives of young age (Ubuntu). I taught them (none) and I just left them to use it to see how intuitive the operating system is. I even totally erased Windows from all machines (older people called me an asshole, My wife still think I am  ).

Needless to say they blossomed and they cannot deal with windows anymore. Ubuntu was faster, more secure, more user friendly and simply much more awesome. Ages varies from 4 to 25, Most (To be fair, not all) are 100% Ubuntu now.

My roomate back in college is an industrial engineer, another is an electrical engineer, another is a computer engineer (<- can't say I am surprised for that guy  ). Now they are all 100% all the time on Ubuntu. Granted they need some tools from time to time that are just for windows with no ports but wine (winehq.org) never disappointed them.

Linux is not for the people who doesn't have life outside a machine. For casual users it is just fine. Now for relatively advanced users I agree because when you make the switch most of your windows skills are rendered useless. Until you get to learn the always more awesome alternative.

Just my opinion from my own experience. Thank you for reading.

Windows is spying, so Linux is the only way for PCs.

I don't even know what that is.

there is wesnoth!

Most Windows apps are indeed either bloated, or dependent on bloated classes or libraries (MFC, Run-time libraries, dot NET, etc.)

But you can now find some exotic compilers or programmers that do ASM or close to ASM level a bunch of apps, some may be CLI, some are actually GUI. Only problem is some of these stuff are either very low level, or high level but closed source (albeit you can sort of trust them).

The least bloated, in my experience are the classic VB compilers, or VB6. The run times are already included in WinXP, Win7 and maybe even Win8. So there is no additional bloat unless you use more than the common controls.

If you've used VB (Visual Basic), then you might have heard of PB (PowerBasic) and they even #BLOAT on purpose (Artificially inflate the disk image size of a compiled program.) Because otherwise, their compiled executables are really small.

This is a great analogy for Linux!

I am fairly OS agnostic and run Windows, OSX and a various number of Linux flavours. I do admit my foundation is in Microsoft software so Windows is my primary OS, but I find some Linux OSs are great for what they are built for. I either have multiple partitions or use LiveCDs/VMs depending.

The hate on Linux and also the 'Linux is super secure' statements I hear are just speculation. The hate regarding its difficulty is probably due to unfamiliarity with the platform and not knowing best practices. I grew up on MS-DOS and as such a CLI doesn't really bother me. Some applications are better.

And just to be a douche: Windows bloat shits me to tears, and Apples overpricing is laughable.

Windows is fine if you take the proper security precautions. Good luck with playing games on osx/linux that aren't snake/tetris.

in what? sucking?

does not matter, it's like 20 times better than windows which is 20 times better than linux.

Except that you have a single wm (no choice), and you are digitally handcuffed to use their stuff for a lot of things. Probably Apple and NSA are also spying on you through the backdoors built into their proprietary closed source components.

yeah, my mom uses ubuntu...

I use arch with evilwm as wm. I have been using evilwm for the last 7 years or so. Arch for the last 2-3 years.

I went from slackware to debian to gentoo to arch (shows my age). I gave up debian because of dependency hell. Gentoo was great at first, but recently they managed to make a mess in portage. The qt inter-dependencies are as bad as debian.

I don't know how exactly but arch handles the dependency issue really smoothly. I think the dual approach with pacman and aur is also the way to go if you want to have some stuff bleeding edge, but not necessarily everything.

osx is basically linux done right

You took the wrong distro if that is your opinion. Never met anyone who couldn't find his way around in Ubuntu for example.

Are you trying to start a war here? 

ok, I guess you're right.

I hope you have some asic hadware if you are setting up for mining btw.

But seriously watch the interview. Even though the interviewer is infinitely annoying, stallman handles him well. Who knows, It may give you a positive perspective on what you're trying to do. You'll still loose the same amount of time, but maybe you'll be less pissed off about it.

If you're windowz person and ever consider linux, I think ubuntu or mint should be the way to go (though clearly the best distro is arch linux). You can do the whole mining thing under windowz, but if you won't play games on that computer, investing in learning linux will benefit you in the long run (as an example, I recall mining some altcoins with very low diff, while windowz users were cursing the developers for not publishing and exe file).

Think of it kinda like zen and the art of motorcycle maintainence... If you just want your motorcycle to work without any problems and take it to a mechanic when it doesn't work, you won't get the same intellectual satisfaction from using it if you know how to repair it and spent a lot of time handling all its parts.

I think you missed the point.

Windows sucks
Linux sucks

Anything that keeps me glued to my chair sucks.

I'm a miner, there's only one first with being a miner.
So, I'm here learning how to mine efficiently, and that sucks, coz I'm glued to my chair.

Hey, Bill Gates is a good guy, at least he is doing something good with the money.

RMS is also one of my heroes.

He got the Linus Torvalds prize when, in reality, it should be the other way around...

linux is not your everyday instant coffee. You have to dry it, roast it, grind it before you can enjoy a smooth coffee.

I tried gaming in Wine, that didn't go so well. I think that was definitive motion that kept me on Windows. I even tried gaming in VMware install in ubuntu and got error msg about incompatible vid driver or what not.

The only game I play lately is daytrading.  , Growing up sucks.

windowz isn't safe from a java bot either. And it is not safe from a whole bunch of other things.

In any case, it is the freedom that is the primary issue. not security.

Here is my hero vs. yours if you will:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFMMXRoSxnA