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legendary
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October 15, 2012, 11:45:05 AM
#86
When you tried using linux did you use cgminer to control your OC or ati utilities? Once I had a handle on getting the drivers installed properly and using cgminer to control the GPU OC's I have had a way more stable setup then any attempts at mining with windows.

what dependencies does cgminer require in Ubuntu?
newbie
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Merit: 0
October 15, 2012, 07:08:25 AM
#85
just choose what you are more comfortable with,  difference is insignificant
sr. member
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Merit: 250
October 07, 2012, 03:28:15 PM
#84
When you tried using linux did you use cgminer to control your OC or ati utilities? Once I had a handle on getting the drivers installed properly and using cgminer to control the GPU OC's I have had a way more stable setup then any attempts at mining with windows.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
October 07, 2012, 01:38:34 PM
#83
now that ASIC mining is on the near horizon with dedicated mining software like cgminer and bfgminer, i assume the clear answer is now Linux?

I would think so, because you don't need to tweak or OC your ASICs like you do with GPUs.  

I am currently using Windows because I cannot OC with linux.
When I see working ASICs I will buy some and use linux.
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1002
October 07, 2012, 12:29:48 PM
#82
now that ASIC mining is on the near horizon with dedicated mining software like cgminer and bfgminer, i assume the clear answer is now Linux?
legendary
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Merit: 1004
July 11, 2011, 07:37:40 PM
#81
It's at the wall:

What's the wall? I couldn't find that text anywhere on the page you linked to, so I'm assuming this "wall" thing is not on that page.

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For all testing, the Watts Up Pro power meter was used

watts up pro


Oh, I get you now. The wall as in where the sockets plug into.  Embarrassed
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 100
July 11, 2011, 07:17:05 PM
#80
It's at the wall:

What's the wall? I couldn't find that text anywhere on the page you linked to, so I'm assuming this "wall" thing is not on that page.

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For all testing, the Watts Up Pro power meter was used

watts up pro
full member
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July 11, 2011, 05:45:50 PM
#79
Thought id share my experience with both.

Overclocking in linux was far worse then in windows. Could only get 940mhz out of this 6850 on linux but windows its clocks to 975mhz just fine.

So obviously windows will be faster in this case. But just for the sake of it I compared the two at stock speeds.

Windows 7 averaged 201.xx mhash/s [fresh install and boot]
Linux averaged 203.xx mhash/s [fresh install and boot]

Managed to get the windows running faster at 204.xx mhash by using task manager to close explorer and every process not needed and having the visual performance set to lowest settings so aero wasn't using any gpu.

Linux already had x-server closed and was running from shell and im no linux expert so didn't know any other ways to optimise it.

Eh?  Mine goes (almost) to eleven ... or 1000 anyhow for Core MHz (under Linux).  The below is a 6850 currently crunching at 280 Mh/s.  Output is from aticonfig:


Default Adapter - AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series
                            Core (MHz)    Memory (MHz)
           Current Clocks :    968           1212
             Current Peak :    968           1212
  Configurable Peak Range : [775-1000]     [1050-1250]
                 GPU load :    99%

Default Adapter - AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series
                  Sensor 0: Temperature - 71.00 C
Fan speed query:
Query Index: 0, Speed in percent
Result: Fan Speed: 74%

full member
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Merit: 100
July 11, 2011, 05:39:01 PM
#78
Linux mining here.  Been running Linux boxes since pre kernel 1.0.  But don't let that bias fool you.

There's no substitute for Linux machines running as any sort of a network appliance.  Plus, if you play your cards right, you can lean a LOT about things you never thought you'd be interested in computationally speaking.

With a little work, you can build up a Linux based mining rig (or set of rigs), that's rock solid, bulletproof, and easily monitored / reconfigured.  You also get the pride and satisfaction of getting it done, which you'll get I guess no matter which way you go.

But ... keep in mind that the online Linux community is still an excellent resource.  EG., Head on over to the Ubuntu forums and you'll find help on pretty much any subject.

Lastly, you can run Linux kernels on really old, crappy hardware.

I'm getting between 380-400 Mh/s on my 5870s running Ubuntu and the 2.1 OpenCL libraries.  All my machines have fans that are custom programmed and GPUs that scale down in speed if they run hotter than 73C.  Plus, with two keyclicks, I can check the following, from anywhere:

 miner 1 = 379  |=========|=========|=========|=========|===
 miner 2 = 155  |=
 miner 3 = 205  |======
 miner 4 = 302  |=========|=========|==
 miner 5 = 205  |======
 miner 6 = 259  |=========|====
 miner 7 = 258  |=========|===
 miner 8 = 203  |=====
 miner 9 = 205  |======
miner 10 = 262  |=========|====
miner 11 = 258  |=========|===
miner 12 = 202  |=====
miner 13 = 261  |=========|====
miner 14 = 314  |=========|=========|=====
miner 15 = 292  |=========|=========|
miner 16 = 291  |=========|=========|
miner 17 = 314  |=========|=========|=====
miner 18 = 282  |=========|========
miner 19 = 284  |=========|========
miner 20 = 278  |=========|=======
miner 21 = 280  |=========|=======
miner 22 = 279  |=========|=======
miner 23 = 383  |=========|=========|=========|=========|====
Total MH/s =  6151

legendary
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Merit: 1004
July 11, 2011, 10:23:35 AM
#77
It's at the wall:

What's the wall? I couldn't find that text anywhere on the page you linked to, so I'm assuming this "wall" thing is not on that page.
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 100
July 11, 2011, 09:38:55 AM
#76
It's at the wall:

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For all testing, the Watts Up Pro power meter was used with its USB interfacing to the Phoronix Test Suite software for automatic monitoring. This monitoring was done by an independent system the entire time to ensure that there weren't any Windows/Linux software monitoring differences as the power meter was attached to each system's power supply.

And it's not a half decent card:

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Phenom II: AMD Phenom II X3 710, MSI 890GXM-G65, Seagate 250GB ST250310AS SATA HDD, 4GB DDR3, AMD Radeon HD 4650.

Max 48w TDP for the card.
legendary
Activity: 826
Merit: 1004
July 11, 2011, 09:23:38 AM
#75
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- You can't list power management as a positive and a negative.

Look at that graph, that's power consumption when gaming (ie. Graphics use [like when we mine]). If you read the whole article, even idle/minimal use desktop linux uses less power.


Yes, look at that graph. It clearly states at the top "Phenom II Power Consumption".

Read the article. That's a Phenom II system, which i chose as most miners here use AMD systems (and AMD have higher idle/load wattages than Intel).

I did read the article. It makes no mention of a Phenom II system. It does however, directly contadict you:

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With similar workloads, for the most part the power consumption is comparable between Ubuntu 11.04 and Windows 7 Pro SP1. The only major differences came during Flash-based HD video playback being more efficient under Windows, power consumption while OpenGL gaming, and in select other areas.

Also, the Phenom II's have a TDP between 65W and 140W depending on the model, so it's obviously not measuring the power consumption of any half-decent video card or it would be a lot higher.
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 100
July 11, 2011, 08:46:27 AM
#74
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- You can't list power management as a positive and a negative.

Look at that graph, that's power consumption when gaming (ie. Graphics use [like when we mine]). If you read the whole article, even idle/minimal use desktop linux uses less power.


Yes, look at that graph. It clearly states at the top "Phenom II Power Consumption".

Read the article. That's a Phenom II system, which i chose as most miners here use AMD systems (and AMD have higher idle/load wattages than Intel).
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
July 11, 2011, 12:49:17 AM
#73
Now, our measurements aren't exact...  we took a network power switch/battery backup, and pulled snmp power usage every 15 seconds for a 15 minute period.  Then we wrote a script that would move the core and memory settings up and down until it found a sweet spot in MH/j for a specific card.  We ran this test on 8 different cards from 2 different vendors in the 5770 line, the results are similar for all the cards in that test.  We ran the same test on a smaller batch of 5850's and 6950's again with similar results.

can i get this script somewhere?
or do you have already HD6790 measured?
member
Activity: 98
Merit: 10
July 11, 2011, 12:21:38 AM
#72
Thought id share my experience with both.

Overclocking in linux was far worse then in windows. Could only get 940mhz out of this 6850 on linux but windows its clocks to 975mhz just fine.

So obviously windows will be faster in this case. But just for the sake of it I compared the two at stock speeds.

Windows 7 averaged 201.xx mhash/s [fresh install and boot]
Linux averaged 203.xx mhash/s [fresh install and boot]

Managed to get the windows running faster at 204.xx mhash by using task manager to close explorer and every process not needed and having the visual performance set to lowest settings so aero wasn't using any gpu.

Linux already had x-server closed and was running from shell and im no linux expert so didn't know any other ways to optimise it.
legendary
Activity: 826
Merit: 1004
July 10, 2011, 09:37:41 PM
#71
Quote
- You can't list power management as a positive and a negative.

Look at that graph, that's power consumption when gaming (ie. Graphics use [like when we mine]). If you read the whole article, even idle/minimal use desktop linux uses less power.


Yes, look at that graph. It clearly states at the top "Phenom II Power Consumption".
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
July 10, 2011, 12:53:46 PM
#70
Windows,

I can get the clock to 1030 mhz on Windows, but on Linux it just freezes...

Doesn't freeze for me. Works just fine and dandy.
member
Activity: 70
Merit: 10
July 10, 2011, 12:51:20 PM
#69
Windows,

I can get the clock to 1030 mhz on Windows, but on Linux it just freezes...
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
July 10, 2011, 10:35:48 AM
#68
UPDATE/EDIT:  If it matters, I may add on a third and/or fourth GPU to the system later.  Running a 1k watt PSU in the rig right now with ample space and airflow.
Do you plan to use water cooling ? How else can you fit 4 cards in one MB ? Smiley

I would recommend mining on Windows, of course. Unless you are going to install more than 2x5970 or 4x5870

why is windows recommended over linux?
if you do your over clocking in windows and then flash the gfx bios then all voltage settings and such works in linux as well

You don't even have to flash the bios in Linux. I'm running 5830's with underclocked mem and overclocked GPU and voltage just by using AMDOverdriveCtrl utility and even created the profile from the command prompt and applied it there in one easy step. There is NO advantage to running it on windows but there are MANY advantages to running under Linux. Sooo much more control (oh and it's faster too).
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 100
July 10, 2011, 09:07:01 AM
#67
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- You can't list power management as a positive and a negative.

Why not?


http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=windows_ubuntu_pow&num=9

Look at that graph, that's power consumption when gaming (ie. Graphics use [like when we mine]). If you read the whole article, even idle/minimal use desktop linux uses less power.

Dont forget that's ubuntu. If you use debian or ubuntu server (with no desktop and minimal packages) you will use even less power and possible higher mhash as you dont have to draw anything on the screen.
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