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Topic: 💰(LIR)💰 LetItRide💰 Dice Tournament LIVE💰 3+BTC in LIR PRIZES💰 Join For FREE - page 33. (Read 255963 times)

sr. member
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come on fags lets move on from this. president obviously sold the account and n ow he crys..
so fucking what, onwards and upwards.

Think I'll let this one slide. It's a great way to encourage interest and investment in the project.
legendary
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It has certainly been an interesting read today, looks like the price is on its way up again. In my opinion, the devs have said the right thing and the site is still on course. I've adjusted my investment accordingly. If they keep on how they have been and there are no other dramatic revelations - I'm sure the price will be back above IPO and beyond in no time.
sr. member
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come on fags lets move on from this. president obviously sold the account and n ow he crys..
so fucking what, onwards and upwards.
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And where are mrpresident to keep claiming ur "hacked acc"?

Maybe cause the pump&dump over?

Lol
sr. member
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I recommend that the current user of the Phoenix1969 account should cooperate with its original creator and Bitcointalk to return control of the account to him. The current user should also provide the information regarding who gave control of the account to him so that the history regarding the account can be traced. I have placed a note on the trust profile not to trust the account since it has been used for deceptive marketing practices. I will remove the notice once I receive confirmation in Lisk chat that the creator of the account has regained access.

There's no proof that the original owner didn't at some point sell the account and because this deal never surfaced is now claiming that the account was hacked. Are you forgetting that the original owner also dishonestly marketed himself by posting a screenshot in April on the Lisk forums to apply for a delegate spot which shows the last activity being in April when he no longer had control over the account? He deceitfully convinced people to vote for him as a Lisk delegate using an account he no longer even had control of!

The current user of the account has publicly stated that the account was given to him - not sold - to use. Until the current user provides the information on who gave him access to the account, it cannot be determined if that person gained access by hacking it from the original owner, bought it from the original owner, or in turn, acquired it from 1 or a chain of other people between the original owner and the person the current user received it from. By ignoring my questions and suggestions, the current user has made it clear he has no interest in returning it to the original owner who has repeatedly stated it was stolen from him, and has shown no interest in cooperating in providing information to settle the dispute.

My focus is on the fact that the account has been reported to be stolen, the current user has stated himself that the account was used for deceptive marketing, and he has not agreed to cooperate in returning the account to its original owner. Other activities by the original owner of the account are not relevant to the matter.

Maybe the current user can show a signed contract and bill of sale between him and the original owner giving him the right to use the account.

Do you ask for a bill of sale or contract when you ask to borrow your friend's Netflix account or their account on a forum so you can download something or on a game? You're a funny guy.

Doesn't matter if he sold it or not. It was clearly his account, the current user hasn't proven that he acquired it with the consent of its owner, the owner has reported it stolen, and it was used for deceptive marketing by the current user.

Of course it matters. If you sold me a bike, I bought it and paid for it and then a year later you call the cops and tell them I stole your bike what do you think would happen. They would just give it back to you?

What if I could prove I had the bike for a year, and showed them pictures with you and me and the bike always with me riding it and parked in my garage.

Its the same thing here. Dont you understand or are you just a paid troll here to fud for cheap coins?

You cant sell something to someone and then claim you lost it or it got hacked or whatever.

Thats not how it works.



Ya know. I borrow my friends ps4 account every now and again so I can play call of duty on his account because he has everything unlocked and is a 10th prestige. Who in their right mind would ask for a bill of sale for that from a freind?



The friend would probably get pretty upset if you changed the password and payment info so he could no longer use the account with the prestige he had earned.

So are you saying that Mr president lent the account to a friend and that friend stole it?

I thought he forgot the password and just forgot about the account.

Hummmm

Why does the story keep changing?

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Others brought up the analogy about borrowing an account from a friend with his consent. I'm responding that in this case, it would be more like borrowing an account from a friend and then changing the login so he no longer has access to the account.

As far as the current case regarding the Phoenix1969 account, I have no way of knowing if access to the account was given away by its original owner, someone else, hacked, or even, for some odd reason, still actually under the control of the original owner. All that matters is that the original owner has claimed it is stolen and wants it back, and the current user has so far refused to provide any information about the person who gave him access to it. This behavior tends to support the contention that the account was stolen, either by the current user or the person who gave it to him.
sr. member
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Doesn't matter if he sold it or not. It was clearly his account, the current user hasn't proven that he acquired it with the consent of its owner, the owner has reported it stolen, and it was used for deceptive marketing by the current user.

Of course it matters. If you sold me a bike, I bought it and paid for it and then a year later you call the cops and tell them I stole your bike what do you think would happen. They would just give it back to you?

What if I could prove I had the bike for a year, and showed them pictures with you and me and the bike always with me riding it and parked in my garage.

Its the same thing here. Dont you understand or are you just a paid troll here to fud for cheap coins?

You cant sell something to someone and then claim you lost it or it got hacked or whatever.

Thats not how it works.



That is why you get a bill of sale, or a receipt, or some kind of proof of the transaction, when you purchase something. Otherwise, as you have pointed out, you have no proof of ownership if the seller later reports it stolen.

Ya know. I borrow my friends ps4 account every now and again so I can play call of duty on his account because he has everything unlocked and is a 10th prestige. Who in their right mind would ask for a bill of sale for that from a freind?



The friend would probably get pretty upset if you changed the password and payment info so he could no longer use the account with the prestige he had earned.
sr. member
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I don't think any investor cares that the account is sold, they care if this is a scam or not and whether the devs will continue to deliver. So far based off their current actions, this is not a scam but a long term investment and they haven't failed on delivering yet.

Amen brother. You speak for me with those words!
+1 karma and +10 LIR

that is very true and i never buy lir because dev is sexy or has really good rank. i buy because i can, because they deliver and because even if some fags dont like them they have shown to be trustworthy to all on this thread.
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Party time

celebration

Over 1k again!

 Smiley
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Stop with the flame now...
Lets talk about the tournament, and LIR.

I think all here can chose if keep beliving in this dev team or not.
hero member
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This thread went crazy  Cheesy
Glad I was away for it but now I'm back I have around 20 pages to read through over lunch.
Who the hell done them dumps yesterday? That was not a wise move..
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Just stop guys .
Let the mod team found a resolution about that
sr. member
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we are going back to 2k sats Cheesy
when this wall at 1k falls....

That will soon fall. there is only about 10btc to take us back to 2000 so it wont be long,
sr. member
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we are going back to 2k sats Cheesy
when this wall at 1k falls....
sr. member
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I see we are moving forward and only one troll/fudder remains. SoOon he too will move on because this community wont give in to that kind of person. Thankfully it only messed with the markets for a day but we've been working back since.
You lucky people who managed to pick up at between 500 and now.
legendary
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Wow are you really this dim?

He said he NOW KNOWS the account was hacked a year ago. Up until only a few months ago he thought he had simply forgotten the password to it.

sr. member
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Desperate distraction lol No, When someone turns up saying one thing and very clearly was not the way it happened

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This grammer police agent should really learn to read. 1 last time for you before I go enjoy some sun, something you should probably do once in a while  Grin Here you go sweetheart, HE SAID THE ACCOUNT WAS HACKED OVER A YEAR AGO!!!! SO IF THE ACCOUNT WAS HACKED ALL THAT TIME AGO, WHY DID HE NOT BRING IT UP IN FUCKING APRIL WHEN HE SEE THE ACCOUNT WAS ACTIVE AND WHEN HE HIGHLIGHTED "HIS LAST DAY ACTIVE" PROVING TO THE LISK COMMUNITY HE CONTROLLED THE ACCOUNT PHOENIX, WELL ATTEMPTED. Are you really that slow you can't understand nobody would do that unless, A, he happily sold the account and knew it was active but he was fraudulently trying to give off another impression that he was still the owner Wink B, he actually still had control of the account in April and had not sold it at that point. Either way proves your boyfriend is a liar and that is that.
legendary
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Desperate distraction lol No, When someone turns up saying one thing and very clearly was not the way it happened

So what aspect of it being 'not the way it happened' are you clinging to on this?

Because in all your haste and eagerness to fixate on the issue of the profile screenshot you appear to have overlooked the fact that he clearly was not logged in to the Phoenix account in order to do so because otherwise the 'current time' and 'last activity' would be the same, namely, the point he clicked 'profile'.

That they are not is proof he was not logged into the Phoenix account, which is exactly what he has maintained anyway.

You're still stuck with the admitted fact of fraudulent misrepresentation by the current controller of the Phoenix account.

sr. member
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Desperate distraction lol No, When someone turns up saying one thing and very clearly was not the way it happened then questions will be asked and the truth with prevail. Sorry if you don't like them and they rub you up in the wrong way. Lets face it he sold the account and that couldn't be more obvious so he is actually a big proven liar that I don't want as a LISK delegate and dumping the shit outta it reducing that investment as well. I will be creating a post breaking down the evidence for the LISK members so they don't also accept his lies to gain a position on the board.
legendary
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There is hostility because I am well aware that all you have is this desperate distraction about him referencing the account for his Lisk work.

Whatever you might pretend is the significance of this it still doesn't change the proven and actually admitted fact that the 'devs' of this project intentionally set out to mislead people into sending them money in the belief they were long-time members of goods repute, when they were not

Still.Fraud.

sr. member
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Haha, I'd also like to see if you could do him that favor. But more than that
Why don't you listen to what is being said and stop coming back with so much crap I've not asked about, I get your eric and that case is closed.. One last time I don't believe you are this silly so I have faith in you maaaaan. You took a screen shot of your account in APRIL 2016 that was the statement because you took the screenshot and it is clear as day APRIL 2016 because you highlight it as last active. With that being said, if your account was apparently hacked a year before why would you only now be saying about it? That is so confusing to me and would love you to be straight with a straight forward answer.

Why not get your lying friend to answer this before throwing shit at others. Thanks

This would be great if you can speak with your friend and ask him why he lied? It would make sense he doesn't want to be a proved liar but he should take responsibility on this I feel.

It is pretty fucking clear what happened from the fact he has already said he thought the reason he couldn't login was because he'd forgotten his password so left the account alone. When he needed to reference it for his Lisk position he simply went to the 'profile' page for that account without needing to log into it.
I am Phoenix1969 https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/phoenix1969-123172
and the current #1 ranking Lisk delegate.
I was unable to recvover my old password for some reason.

He probably thought the 'last active' timestamp was from him trying to trigger the password recovery process again. In any event we're still in the position of Phoenix1969 now admitting he isn't the original owner of the account, albeit all he has offered is some vague excuse concerning a 'friend' giving it to him.

So you're still shilling for a bog-standard web-script betting game which has sold you an altcoin under false pretences. They sought investment while intentionally deceiving others into thinking they were long-time members of good-standing, when they were not.

Still fraud.




I sense a touch of hostility in the start of your post. Don't get angry at me for asking questions, we all like asking questions don't we. He forgot his password - so he left the account alone, ok that makes sense but then heres the kicker
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When he needed to reference it for his Lisk position he simply went to the 'profile' page for that account without needing to log into it.
Really so he went to the page and see it was last active (without logging into it) why was that not suspicious to him for his account to have been active  Grin
He probably thought this or that is not good enough because he never tried again to reset password because apparently he already tried and failed. What a muddle we have here.
I am not shilling am I? What I am doing is getting to the bottom of your bullshit because lets face it that is what it is bullshit. Just admit he sold the account lolol. Now you know this but are trying to cover it for whatever reason. No false pretences from the dev team, they said they would deliver a working dice site and that is what they have done. Even with your shit they're still here updating and delivering so whether it was a hero account or newbie account, doesn't matter to me in the slightest.

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