Topic: [LISK] RobinHood Lisk Delegate Pool, 100% profit sharing - page 2. (Read 9977 times)

Well, picture is more complex (and much simpler at the same time, money talks), than an uninitiated minnow could think from the first glance.

guess whose names we can find among delegates & proposals on the ARK forum

there is nothing new under the sun

Roger Ver did even more, offering miners a 110% block reward to mine in his pool

and it is not a shit - it's called politics.

ARK shows quite an interesting model of possible ways of merger&acquisition in the decentralized world of cryptocurrency, it will be no surprise to see more the stuff like this in the future.  

and RobinHood demonstrated the way how small "cryptoholders" could defend themselves


PS

Check the post DPoS and ARK Voting Explained by BoldNinja.
According to the 5th paragraph - ARK is "a bad whale"  

no liberspirita, doing so you are not doing the best for lisk. You are just doing what you think is probably the best for you.

Just the lisk code can do the best for lisk, and code is law.

Our thoughts, our opinions, our beliefs fortunately have not the possibility to influence the Lisk code.

Each one mention here, except ARK,  has announced he may interfere in DPOS, mainly when forging time was started. And they did, and they retired later.

ARK asked to fund an ICO, not a voting account. Now, they are about to ask a new ICO with blockpool. How could we be confident it is not a new interference in Lisk DPOS ? The primary fault has been commit ...
I remember in october/november, ARK team saying they may vote to funder with double the fund they put in ICO. You give 1 LSK, ARK would vote 2 K on you. That would have been better. It has not been done this way.

I have nothing to win in this battle, only damages and troubles. But i am confident i act for a better DPOS for lisk. I play the game. I could have done nothing, just accepting a tier crypto vampirizing my beloved Lisk. But i don't.

Liberspirita you are free to do what you do prefer with your pool, and you are free to ask what you want to your voters, and your voters are free to do what they want with their lisks.

ARK has the secret of its wallet, and is free to vote or devote who prefers.
Lisk HQ has the secret of its wallet, and is free to vote or devote who prefers.
max has the secret of his wallet, and is free to vote or devote who prefers.
oliver has the secret of his wallet, and is free to vote or devote who prefers.
everyone who has at least a balance of 1.00000001 lisk inside his wallet can vote or devote and his action can influence the 101 forging positions.

This is dpos; this is the game.

Sincerely, I do not understand where is the problem.

Since the beginning, big wallets have voted for some delegates, influencing the 101 active forging delegates. We have just to accept this, due to the fact this is allowed in lisk code and only the lisk vote weight can influence the 101 active forging spots.

dpos is not politics. dpos is just weight, lisk wallet weight, and just this can decide, not our personal opinions or thoughts.
everyone who has at least a balance of 1.00000001 lisk inside his wallet has the right and the duty to vote for his preferred delegates and no one can criticize him.


If you do not like that big wallets can influence the 101 forging positions, just make a commit on github lisk repo https://github.com/LiskHQ/lisk



Good luck

Hi to all poolers of RobinHood,

I owe you some explanations about this war engaged between me and ARK. No one will die ...
ARK ( http://ark.io ) is a crypto which made its ICO last autumn, mainly from Lisk. Its ICO funds with lisk overtaken 4.5M Lisk. Basically, nothing to say against that : they got enought funds to develop their project , certainly a good one.
But since march, ARK is using its funds to promote delegates on Lisk. It is not forbidden, because nothing is forbidden on lisk DPOS, the code is the king.
But i do not like this. No one should like this :  Using funds dedicated for a project outside lisk for an intrusion on Lisk DPOS, asking 15% of forging rewards from the promoted delegates (they are all hostages of ARK now).
Of course, you may read criticisms on me from ARK's hostages here. It's the game.
I have many to lost in this battle, but i see i am the only one free in Lisk delegate, able to resist.  You must know that among Delegates of lisk, they are several groups formed to reach and stay on delegate position : GDT, Elite, and ARK's hostages. I was GDT until beginning of january but i quit. I am 100% free. RobinHood is my only tool to stay on the game, and it is a powerfull one.

So what's the subject for you? As many small or less small poolers, most of you don't have idea of the games of thrones inside lisk delegation. If you are pooler in RobinHood you are involved anyway ...
The rules of RobinHood rewards are now also politic : the less you vote on ARK hostages, the more penalties you may have on your rewards. All the penalties taken to ones are payed as bonus to other who achieved to have 0% penalty.
Other rules are classical : big pooler are capped so that smallers keep interest. And finally you'll reach the jackpot when voting also my real delegate Liberspirita.

Go on http://robinhood.liberspirita.net/stats/ , find your account, and you may understand quickly how to maximize your wins.
If you do not want to play this game, it is not a huge problem. Even with a penalty of 15% or 30%, with RobinHood paying 100% of the forged lisk and cap-refund system, smalls and middles poolers are richer from RobinHood but from any other pool on Lisk.



When will it stop
When ARK will have removed its votes (66 at this date here : https://explorer.lisk.io/address/9569486828221897676L). Many of these 66 "hostages" worth to stay delegate of Lisk. It will be kind and normal to vote them back as soon as ARK stops its intrusion.

No, I support Lisk since the first day. You also?

Liberspirita does not make a good pool, he made a good pool in the past.
But now he is paying his voters when they remove their votes for great and contributing community members.

If you find that good - okay. For me this is a wrong game.

Actually he made a nice pool  and he has done no harm for the pool voters so far

So, as you came here, to the thread of the pool, could you, please, explain (here, in this very thread) to the little minnow, who is quite happy with the RobinHood Pool rewards, what kind of "wrong game' Liberspirita plays now and why???

What is going on in the high society of Lisk patricians delegates?

Unfortunately, I have deleted my promotion for RobinHood. The owner Liberspirita plays a wrong game. He makes public front against very committed community members, even he has never done anything for Lisk.

He is definitely not a good community member.

Even after those "stealing" the payouts from Robbin Hood pool outweigh those from the unvoted: 

I think those 90% just have no idea what is going on, as most don't check the pool page quite often,
otherwise they would immediately join the "small number" of the Merry Men who have 

Isn't it the ARK ICO fund "stealing" the rewards from the minnows?

Anyway it's all about money, don't get it too personal,
if you pay and pay more than Robin, and ask to unvote him, I think most would follow, maybe even me, for awhile, not sure   

Im sorry?

YOU are the one that started asking to unvote people that have nothing to do with ARK. Worst then that, you used a community pool to do it and take profit for yourself.
Now you play the victim?
Im not even from ARK! I dont have a single ARK Token and im not involved with ARK in any way. But you didnt care about that did you?

You have some nerve sir, ill give you that.

Ill make sure people will keep an eye on you and your schemes.
Keep addind penaltys to your voters and stealing from them, you wont get away with it anymore.

You even calleded it Robinhood ... the irony.
I suggest you take a look here : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_Hood

Robin Wood was stealing from the poor to give to the rich, unlike your pool that is stealing from 90% of your voters and giving it to a small number of individuals that vote the way you command.

I did my math inside the wallet and checked where most payouts came from - they were from RobinHood Lisk Delegate Pool

So money talks better unvote a pair of greedy pools and stay with a generous one

PS
the truth is - the more you share the more you get in return

Ok friends... ARK hostages try to push me outside 101 without many success.
Now, we shall see day after day the power of Robinhood. A slow and strong power...
Please, remember the delegates you unvote. Many of them will worth you vote back when ARK will have stop voting with its ico

Is it?

Everyone should do the math and see what they are really getting from that pool. You will be surprised to see the % is MUCH LOWER then announced.
Liberspirita is using the ARK excuse to inflict severe penalties on all his voters that don't vote according to his agenda.

More then 90% of his voters are getting a HUGE pennalty , making this pool the one with lower payouts.
Then a few selected voters get all those extra Lisks that are stolen.

You dont need to take my word for it, its stated on his site: http://robinhood.liberspirita.net/stats/

RobinHood Lisk Delegate Pool - is the most generous/profitable Lisk pool out here 

Money talks whom to vote for

Many of the people you asked to unvote are not related to ARK in any way. Doing this while you have 2 delegates for yourself is just outrageous.
Telling the same lie over and over will not make it true.

Maybe you got away with it until now, but i will make sure people understand what you stand for.

You have no business with Lisk and should remove yourself from this community.

buy some ARK and think positive ;-)

Only fighting against bad use of ico from ARK.
Each may judge for himself