Topic: List of altcoins SEC considers securities - page 2. (Read 310 times)

The regulatory classification of cryptocurrencies, including XRP, can indeed be a complex and lengthy process. Different regulatory bodies around the world have varying views on the matter, and their assessments can take time to reach a conclusive decision.The classification of a cryptocurrency as a security typically depends on how it was issued, marketed, and the level of control and involvement from a centralized entity. Regulatory bodies, such as the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), evaluate these factors to determine if a token qualifies as a security under existing securities laws.

Well attacking CEXes would be obviously most effective starting point, they would be basically exchanges buying and selling unregistered securites in the eyes of SEC.

And you can't really leave all this (declaring some altcoins are securities) to the shoulders of SEC. Many of these currencies has very questionable marketing tactic to begin with.
In sale phase of a token/coin, marketing itself can define if the token or coin is a security. Which is one of the reason when they are attacking the third parties providing the hype for tokens/coins. And i am guessing that most promoters got free hands on promoting and are promoting those assets illegally, hinting any growth in investment price is enough.
 
I am not sure what kind of place twitter is these days but at some point they needed to add more restrictive rules for promoting things like cryptocurrencies. Which most people didn't seem to follow, but i am guessing that was twitter's way of washing their hands so they won't get sued by allowing this.

The recent SEC lawsuits against crypto exchanges were significant, impacting around 10% of the crypto market, equivalent to about $100 billion worth of tokens. Considering the situation, it makes sense to speculate about the potential impact on altcoins, specifically Bitcoin, Ethereum, Binance Coin and Dogecoin. Yes, to some extent this has a bearing on these lawsuits which could result in protracted legal battles, and securities designations can last a long time. The future of altcoins hinges on the outcome of these cases, and only time will tell the true impact on their value and market dynamics.

Not sure affect the effect long term, but obviously, at some point in time those projects mentioned might see a downside because of this. Anyhow, I think this is forthcoming, but the timing would have been perfect, we are still in the bear market, so I wouldn't be surprised the price affecting negatively.

However, we all know that when the bull run starts, no one can stop it. So the best gauge will be next year, when we suddenly goes into the bull run. And all those coins mentioned might be enjoying a good run despite them being in the list of SEC who consider them securities. And it might just be affecting the US investors if I'm not mistaken.

Determining whether Bitcoin, Ethereum, Binance Coin, Dogecoin and other altcoins are securities is still being discussed and there is no consensus from financial regulators and supervisors around the world. This assessment directly affects the legal and tax regulations applicable to these cryptocurrencies globally. If the SEC continues to issue decisions to sue and evaluate many other cryptocurrencies as securities, this will cause confusion and negatively affect the cryptocurrency market in the future. This can undermine investors' confidence and cause the weakening of crypto projects that have not been identified as securities. Legal and tax regulations if applied on these cryptocurrencies could push prices down and affect the development of the crypto market as well. Investors should carefully consider and research carefully before investing in any cryptocurrency and monitor the decisions and policies of financial regulators to make informed decisions. reasonable investment.

maybe if SEC really want to sued altcoin because it is considering a securities almots 90% are securities. because most of them are invested by fiat. the only coin considered as commodity are Bitcoin and old PoW coin like litecoin, doge, dash,monero and zcash. CMIIW

Seriously I have been asking the same question for some time now, why didn't include ETH? I think SEC is purposely doing this to cause panic in the crypto space and this is not the first time they are doing this, while other countries are seeking for ways to incorporate or adopt crypto, SEC is going after them, In the end, this might lead in the US having no relevance to crypto space in the future, we are watching

News like this could be said as FUD, In order for the market to be corrected, proved as soon as the news released the crypto market corrected  range of 10%, however it did not last long, today has already begun to show price recovery. After all, the claim applies to the stock exchange operating in the United States.

The SEC only seems to have a bad impact, and does not have a strong path just because the US government seems to seize over the crypto world that the SEC as the king of power is trying. what about the XRP event looks very competitive is less clear. The SEC is nothing to the big markets, CZ or the crypto world because there are already countries that support altcoins as role users. a lawsuit like this had appeared in 2017 when China fully supported it because it was hindered by the US

Yes, maybe I didn't explain the SEC's strategy so well here. As you point out Binance has a lot of funds to defend themselves (likewise with Coinbase). The hope is likely that these exchanges will settle in one way or another, that otherwise accepts the concept that certain altcoins (up to 61 of them) will be considered securities. After all, it's common that the SEC eventually will want to settle on a lower figure.

The strategy can otherwise be considered as follows:

1. Target major exchanges claiming A,B,C to Z are securities. This saves issuing 61 individual lawsuits against accused securities, that would cost a lot more money and time. This is the obvious move.
2. Hope that one of these exchanges accepts a deal and settles without going to court, thus acknowledging that certain altcoins are therefore securities, and therefore removing them from platforms.
3. With these settlements, then file lawsuits against said securities, with the accusation that major exchanges have also acknowledged they are securities, so they must be securities.
4. Hope that these altcoins being sued as securities also settle, given the so-called evidence that major exchanges have accepted they are securities, and also due to damaged reputations.

Obviously the main flaw in this logic is thinking that Binance or Coinbase will settle for anything less than a win. It's very likely they will be able to "pool funds" from the accused altcoins for their defence, given it's in the interest of these altcoins to be defended (even if not directly). Therefore it's more likely their legal defence budget will become a bottomless pit and will cost the SEC a lot of money in the long-run.

At least overall I don't see either exchange "rolling over" for the SEC, as it would set a precedent that they can't list new altcoins without their explicit approvals, which would be detrimental to their business models. In this sense, the SEC appears to very much be "trying it on" with the accusations of numerous altcoins that are securities, as even if they are, they will struggle to prove it (like with the XRP case).

As for the accusations against Binance, which is considerably different to that of Coinbase (that's solely selling securities related), it's likely they'll settle on the accusation of co-mingling funds and allowing US customers to use their platform, as it's not worth defending if there is enough evidence to support these claims. As for the securities argument/claim, I doubt they'll go down without a fight.

In summary, they are trying "catch all" lawsuits against these two companies (so far), in order to avoid dozens if not hundreds of individual lawsuits, that they simply don't have the time for.

It sounds non sense. If SEC was thinking like that and SEC will not sue binance but the reality said the opposite thing. SEC is now suing binance. As you can see, that binance regularly making very huge profits from its product and it has so much reserved funds even more compared with XRP. Any opinion regarding it?

One interesting factor is the strategy SEC are using to label altcoins securities. Instead of going to for altcoins themselves, they are going for the exchanges facilitating trading instead. This effectively means that the altcoins can't defend themselves against the accusation (as this becomes the responsibility of exchanges if they chose it to do so). This is similar to the SEC lawsuit against Kim Kardashian and Floyd Mayweather for shilling Ethereum Max. They never actually filed a lawsuit against the coin, but only the promoters. So it very much seems they are trying to same tactic here again, in order to get certain altcoins classified as securities by courts, without the founders/executives of altcoins being able to defend themselves against it. I realise that XRP is the exception to the rule, as they are defending themselves right now which is probably costing SEC a lot of money, hence they are likely trying to avoid directly creating lawsuits against other coins with lots of funds available.

No problem with BTC and DOGE since there were no ICO for this but I'm really curious now why SEC doesn't consider ETH as securities. One of the common denominator among those labeled as securities was being launched through a token sale. I'm also curious about ADA since their ICO was not available for US investors. It doesn't make sense for SEC to even list them as securities.

Those ICOs that opened their doors for US investors will likely lose their case.

Well they have been saying that xrp is a security for 2 years so i am still waiting for conclusion on that. Many of those i have no clue about and i am wondering why some other obvious securities are not in that list. Maybe they are too low marketcap and low visibility. But i have a feeling that this will be even longer process than anyone thinks. I might be an old man before this is settled.

As many of you probably know by now, the SEC is suing Binance, and more recently Coinbase as well. How does this affect altcoins? 61 have so far been labelled as securities by the SEC:



Source: https://cointelegraph.com/news/sec-labels-61-cryptocurrencies-securities-after-binance-suit

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This appears to be the biggest SEC lawsuits against crypto exchanges so far, that affects approximately 10% of the crypto market (based on market cap), ie $100 billion worth of tokens.

How do you think this will affect altcoins in the near future? Notably Bitcoin, Ethereum, Binance Coin and Dogecoin haven't been considered securities, so personally I think value could now flow into them after this announcement (apart from BNB), away from others that are at risk of being sued. Potentially these lawsuits will be fought and won, but otherwise the labelling of these securities may well stick.