Topic: List of banned participants in the Cryptotalk Campaign - page 8. (Read 32189 times)

Why are you using an alt account to ask this? If you had checked the campaign's thread, you would have seen a ton of users saying the "send to my BTC balance" button isn't working in the last few hours.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5188047.360

Both posts are nowhere to be found.
So it got pointed out and deleted again a while later the second time.

Cutesgirl, I know you're reading this. Congratulations you're making a real comedy out of this. I didn't think I'd see somebody go through so much just to get that one spam post for a dollar. You're a champ!

I'd focus on the first necrobumper. If he's lucky enough to necrobump get someone to post right after and delete it before the campaign manager sees he can get the troll of the month reward and keep posting.

It should be a good warning to other posters to watch where they're posting so even the second culprit should watch out or he can get trolled and become the first.

In this particular case, I'd blame the first 3 members.

The first one who bumped the thread, the second^[1] who pushed it again after two days, the third who pushed it again after 1 day.
The thread is in a somewhat busy board so with a 1-day gap the thread most probably ended in second page and the last 2 people pushed it back to the first page and that's the point when posting competition started.

[1] it looks the user is not a cryptotalk campaign participant.

I don't agree with you because the way that you establish if a thread is active is by looking at the latest posts and if they are recently then you assume that the topic has remained active after all of these years and this is definitely true when the reply is substantial. I would not blame the members posting after the necrobump unless their replies are spam too. The only criticism that could be given is if the thread is a megathread but if its a thread which was posted a year ago and then six months ago it was necrobumped you would probably read through the whole of the thread but only check the dates of the last couple of replies.

I don't agree with you. It's their fault that they haven't checked the date. Most of these users just came to that thread to leave generic reply in order to reach their post quota and they didn't had intentions to make contribution. Though it's not worst example that we can find. It's not half year old topic which was inactive for few years. I'm not sure that all these users who posted after necrobump deserved to get banned. I haven't checked their post history, but if they posted in such topics just few times, it would be to strict penalty to ban them from campaign.

Just to attest to this, I'm the exact opposite. I ignore all the quality sections to scour for spam. Altcoin Discussion and Trading Discussion are goldmines if you want useless replies!

Like I said: Anyone who is unwilling to read the context of the post isn't posting for the sake of the discussion. Rather, they are posting for the sake of the signature.

sirminesalot was the initial bumper from what I seen last night. After his initial post in came the load of posters following him. The problem is I would still say all the users who quoted the OP of the thread and replied are to blame. These users did not take the time to read any replies. They just quoted the OP and made a post then moved on. The ones who replied to those users, maybe not so much.

Quoting the OP and not bothering to read other replies in the thread prior to themselves replying would qualify as a junk or spammy post.

But then you should be sure who bumped the thread, as in this case the person who bumped it ,removed the post and now everyone will think the 2nd person is actually the first person who bumped it. (which is actually not true).

I probably wouldn't blame the members who posted after the thread got bumped, because they might not have noticed what the date was in the OP.  I've done that quite a few times by accident, and it's a mistake anyone can make--so IMO the blame falls squarely on the person who actually bumped the thread. 

LOL.  Those words in quotes pretty much typify the average shitpost, and stuff like that is basically all a lot of members can write, because they don't know enough English and don't have the vocabulary to write anything more profound.  That's why you see shit like that over and over, especially in the really spammy sections like Altcoin Discussion.  I took a look there recently and it would seem that many cryptotalk campaigners are posting there almost exclusively.  There isn't anything wrong with that necessarily, but a lot of the posts are just garbage.

And that's why I usually have the altcoin section and Bitcoin Discussion on ignore, because I don't have the patience to weed through a bunch of nonsense in order to find posts worthy of merits.  And believe me, I've tried.

This is nothing new. If you ever try to read the spam mega threads, you will find the similar posts and similar point of view repeated over and over again. That's why nobody want to read those replies on those discussions boards and are classified as spam.

I guess since this EDIT you don´t really need a second and third opinion, but when I read over all those comments quoted, the first thing that made my mind was "The content of all these answers is sort of similar, not the exact same, but an original sent through a mixer and re-stated as new posts still including the same catch-words."

Running a quick search on all the quotes shows "Blockchain" mentioned 45x and "Bank" mentioned 56x

While reading the impression was basically "Blockchain is Bitcoin, because Bitcoin is against Banks and Banks don´t need Bitcoin, but Bitcoin is technology and technology is Blockchain and that is why Blockchain, Bitcoin, Banks and Technology belong together."

Well, that said, those key-words are main aspects of this forum, so there is not neccessarily something bad on it. It just gives a strange feeling (to me) reading those over and over again in the same + the quoting posts with a similar structure and lenght.

Finally: not easy to be a BM who cares for quality and fights non-sense. Enjoy!

Let us follow how reports work in this sequence:

Post #58: Old Post
Post #59: Necrobump
Post #60+: Future replies

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Post #59 is reported.
Post #59 is deleted.
All posts 60+ are decremented by one.

Now the flow looks like this:

Post #58: Old Post
Post #59: Necrobump
Post #60+: Future replies

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Hence, any irrelevant necrobump reply that is not of enough substance to justify the bump should be removed, period. Anyone who is unwilling to read the context of the post isn't posting for the sake of the discussion. Rather, they are posting for the sake of the signature. Why else wouldn't you read? Honestly.

Its your call at the end of the day so i will not give any opinion now. But i want to show you something.


This Question was asked on September 2, 2019:


And on November 5 and onwards it was answered, when all the events (except Halving) have already passed.


And few more replies http://archive.ph/uJyfp

I think you can take action on case by case basis.

Makes sense no doubt Yahoo is a good manager and he wants a well manage a campaign, because this is the one that sets him apart from the other managers, but in the end, it's always on the goal of the project and the developer, excellent posters make the forum better but not the project who wants views and visibility.
Also if you checked Yobit campaign history anyone and anybody can get in as long as he is a senior or hero or legendary rank, they never restrict the numbers.

I see this as a practice just to earn that buck, because that's without effort. Anything that is necrobumped and posts thereafter should not be paid at all or should be checked very carefully at least once before paying them. Necrobumps to megaspam threads should never be paid because they will always be shit. Those who read the first page or just the OP and necrobump a thread should be given a warning if they don't add anything additional and unique that's not said before, cindering that the thread is limited to max 10 pages. All those who post in any thread should take a suggestion from me - please take some time and check at least 2-3 and maybe 5 pages and not just make a post based on the first page alone, and necrobump only if you think you have an answer that will really help out OP which was not given to him by anybody else in that thread. Others who follow after this need to see if they can add anything that adds any value to the discussion or just leave it as it is. I asked you to check around first 5 pages - this should be done to prevent yourself from saying what is already told by someone else and even stop you from necroposting as you will be able to see if the thread was bumped by someone recently but was very old.

@Yahoo, you also need to do something about the quote-webbers who make a big web of quotes adding nothing to the discussion but just to increase their post count. Such shit quotes should never be considered less than spam unless they really add anything to the talk of the thread.

Maybe all of them, but I can see somebody who really deserves a bit of spanking  :


The post disappeared, modlog doesn't show anything for the user or topic so it was deleted by the user, I can guess why.....but ...why miss on the payment when you can simply spin it a bit and post it again?
http://archive.ph/sgyie



It's a bit of tricky question, everybody will shout "ban them!!!" but if do this and the campaign ends up with 20-30 users, will the guys from cryptotalk/yobit keep you as a manager? They are probably far more interested in the number of banner views than merits.

You just summed up in 1 paragraph how lazy people can be. If you are not going to read a thread, you shouldn't be replying in it period. Users that do like you are saying deserve to be sig banned at a minimum if not banned on the forum.

Earning money isn't a problem here, but lazy half assed posting habits are.

Majority of us here are guilty of this practice not only on one campaign we are tempted to reply on one thread because we thought we can give a better answer than all the rest we scroll on the first page of the reply and you saw that your reply can be unique than all the others, but you did not know there's a similar answer of your post on the second or third or fourth pages, but it's a waste of time scrolling all the replies that can go to 10 pages to see if there is a similar reply that you are going  to post, it's going to be a lot of burden.

If this is the case the participants will just prefer to open a new thread or give them a rule that you can only reply to a post that only has 5 posts that's quite hard because all-new thread gets a minimum 10  replies in less than an hour.

If you want to introduce this new rule then go-ahead but let the participants know about it first, everybody here wants to stay in this campaign but they want to be comfortable while doing their task.

yahoo62278

I am surprised that you paid attention to such things. As you rightly noted, this is a common practice for sigposters. I think it would be nice to remove such characters from the campaign, but the amount of work needed for this would be unrealistic.

I quickly checked the first necroposter (sirminesalot) and this is what I found:
He wrote a lot in 2014. Great posts in excellent English. The last post was written in december 2014.
Then follows a break of 3 years and the following posts went in Indonesian.
If we consider this:

http://archive.md/drRts

Then he again began to use the English language, but very limitedly - no more than 2-3 lines.
Then we can conclude that the account was sold or hacked.

Update dedicated to  cutesgirl
0xf44dEEE6723ae3426F0B62321FcD0417D2eE0641 - it is her ETH wallet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14GpxcXwurmF2EsIEH5rFjYp_UbUJHPqV76phabxPv_Q/edit#gid=1795801072

She sent XUC tokens to 0x1c06c93cec03AA225D243E7B7fb9D64C538d66C4
As Fara Chan who owns 0x23582909b92d35aDD4E24B204ac1291ea279DC56 wallet.

According to spreadsheet she is in signature campaign, he is in facebook/twitter.
Fara Chan also wears the signature of a cryptoTalk.

I wanted to post this publicly and get a community opinion about a few users. I know it's my call at the end of the day, but I would like to see some views from all of you keeping up with the campaign.

I have been banning some users for necrobumping. For those of you whom do not know what that is, it is bumping a long dead thread. IMO timeframe any thread that's been dead for more then 30 days. Normally if you try to post in a thread that has had no replies for 120 days, the forum automatically gives you a warning about the thread asking you if you're sure you want to post in that thread. The only time I have read that it is OK to necrobump is if you are adding something extremely relevant to the thread.

The example I am about to give is not 120 days old, but it is almost 60 days old and could be considered irrelevant. So I would like some unbiased opinions if there are any out there who can do that.

This is the original THREAD and as you can see, it was posted on September 11, 2019. The thread is fairly active until September 21st, 2019 and then is IMO considered dead until....


Thread is bumped by the above user on Oct 31st, 2019, about 1 month and 10 days after the last poster posted. There are 31 more replies after his post and 24 of them are from users wearing a cryptotalk signature.

My complaint or concern is not the amount of users who have posted after he bumped the thread with his comment, but more with some of the replies. See below








All of the above users directly quoted the OP or are answering other users who quoted the OP in a thread that I really would consider dead already. The question is who is at fault? The guy who bumped the thread 1st sirminesalot? All of them? Guys who kept bumping? Just want everyone to take a step or 2 in my shoes and give their opinions on what you would do with all these users?

This is the kind of stuff that 1 user can cause. I user posting in this thread caused 31 others to post an opinion.

**EDIT**

As I go through more and more users I'm starting to see this as common practice for some participants. They're quoting the OP and replying adding 0 value to the post or offering an opinion that has been offered 10x already. Hammer will be falling on these types.