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sr. member
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August 14, 2013, 02:23:11 AM
Then you are REALLY scamming the investors but scamming the players just a little... There are no "real" bets, only your own bot placing "fake" bets on the website.

As long as the actual payouts are provably fair, why on earth does it matter if people are placing bets manually or using bots?
A bot placing bet A doesn't affect the payout of a user placing bet B.
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1330
August 14, 2013, 02:21:39 AM
tmbp doesn't know about the invest bots then Cheesy Cheesy

Neither do I.

I saw a thread offering a bounty to create one, but didn't ever see it happen.

Are there invest/divest bots running now?
vip
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August 14, 2013, 02:11:31 AM
Then you are REALLY scamming the investors but scamming the players just a little... There are no "real" bets, only your own bot placing "fake" bets on the website.

I have never run a bot on Just-Dice.  The bots are run by real players.

How would it be to my advantage to run a bot against the site?  If as you say there are no real bets, only bets made by my bot, I've lost over 4600 BTC to the site.  90% of that goes to the investors, and 10% of it goes back to me as commission.  I don't see why I would do that.  Are you supposing I've paid thousands of BTC to investors just to make it look like the site is busy?  Or are the investors all fake too?

tmbp doesn't know about the invest bots then Cheesy Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1330
August 14, 2013, 02:08:10 AM
Then you are REALLY scamming the investors but scamming the players just a little... There are no "real" bets, only your own bot placing "fake" bets on the website.

I have never run a bot on Just-Dice.  The bots are run by real players.

How would it be to my advantage to run a bot against the site?  If as you say there are no real bets, only bets made by my bot, I've lost over 4600 BTC to the site.  90% of that goes to the investors, and 10% of it goes back to me as commission.  I don't see why I would do that.  Are you supposing I've paid thousands of BTC to investors just to make it look like the site is busy?  Or are the investors all fake too?
legendary
Activity: 1554
Merit: 1009
August 13, 2013, 09:37:42 PM
There are no "real" bets

Funny thing about blanket statements: if they're wrong, they make you look silly.
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 250
August 13, 2013, 09:04:12 PM

You seem to very concerned with trying to discredit me, been following me around posting in the same threads for some time, wonder why  Wink

I'm not "very concerned" with "discrediting" you at all. I get it, that's what the script says, pretend like people laughing at you are trying to "discredit you". Apparently your script doesn't work.

How are you at making sandwiches MPOE-PR? I bet better than thinking logically.

We got reports on bots being used as well but I'm not sure if that degrades from any chances. I donno but I have found with sites that some people call it a scam if they lose if if it was legitimate loss.  I always feel the need to dig deeper and ask more questions.

There are two classes of people on Just-Dice:

1) investors

2) players

1) investors don't care whether the players use a bot to play or not, so long as you play.  they realise that the house wins 1% of every bet on average.  if you want to use a bot to play faster and lose your coins faster, I'm sure that's OK with the investors

2) players can check that the site is provably fair.  players can choose whether to run a bot or not.  players don't affect each other's play at all, other than by making small changes to the max profit.  if player 1 uses a bot, player 2 shouldn't care.

Then there's the 3rd class of visitor: tmbp.  He seems to have his own agenda and will use any excuse to throw scam accusations around, even when they make absolutely no sense.  Have fun with that.

Then you are REALLY scamming the investors but scamming the players just a little... There are no "real" bets, only your own bot placing "fake" bets on the website.
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1330
August 13, 2013, 11:20:52 AM
We got reports on bots being used as well but I'm not sure if that degrades from any chances. I donno but I have found with sites that some people call it a scam if they lose if if it was legitimate loss.  I always feel the need to dig deeper and ask more questions.

There are two classes of people on Just-Dice:

1) investors

2) players

1) investors don't care whether the players use a bot to play or not, so long as you play.  they realise that the house wins 1% of every bet on average.  if you want to use a bot to play faster and lose your coins faster, I'm sure that's OK with the investors

2) players can check that the site is provably fair.  players can choose whether to run a bot or not.  players don't affect each other's play at all, other than by making small changes to the max profit.  if player 1 uses a bot, player 2 shouldn't care.

Then there's the 3rd class of visitor: tmbp.  He seems to have his own agenda and will use any excuse to throw scam accusations around, even when they make absolutely no sense.  Have fun with that.
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 522
August 13, 2013, 10:35:18 AM

You seem to very concerned with trying to discredit me, been following me around posting in the same threads for some time, wonder why  Wink

I'm not "very concerned" with "discrediting" you at all. I get it, that's what the script says, pretend like people laughing at you are trying to "discredit you". Apparently your script doesn't work.
sr. member
Activity: 266
Merit: 250
August 13, 2013, 09:53:35 AM
We got reports on bots being used as well but I'm not sure if that degrades from any chances. I donno but I have found with sites that some people call it a scam if they lose if if it was legitimate loss.  I always feel the need to dig deeper and ask more questions.
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 250
August 13, 2013, 09:22:47 AM
How does the fact that some Just-Dice players have decided to use bots to place bets on their behalf have anything to do with the site being a scam?

It doesn't even fit your own definition.  There's nothing fraudulent or deceptive going on.  Lots of players openly discuss their bot strategies, and share their code between themselves.  Just-Dice doesn't endorse the use of bets, but doesn't have a problem with it either.  If your bot breaks and causes you to bet differently than you thought it would, you're responsible.

Again, I'm not sure what evidence you feel would help.  If you want a list of deposits and withdrawals for each user, that's not going to happen.  The same as it doesn't at any other gambling site.

Discussing scams with this idiot is not much different from discussing investments with the Aussie BBGG idiot. Good for entertainment value. Like, you know, playing chess with pigeons.

You seem to very concerned with trying to discredit me, been following me around posting in the same threads for some time, wonder why  Wink
member
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I do not sell Bitcoins. I sell SHA256(SHA256()).
August 13, 2013, 07:20:34 AM
How does the fact that some Just-Dice players have decided to use bots to place bets on their behalf have anything to do with the site being a scam?

It doesn't even fit your own definition.  There's nothing fraudulent or deceptive going on.  Lots of players openly discuss their bot strategies, and share their code between themselves.  Just-Dice doesn't endorse the use of bets, but doesn't have a problem with it either.  If your bot breaks and causes you to bet differently than you thought it would, you're responsible.

Again, I'm not sure what evidence you feel would help.  If you want a list of deposits and withdrawals for each user, that's not going to happen.  The same as it doesn't at any other gambling site.

Discussing scams with this idiot is not much different from discussing investments with the Aussie BBGG idiot usagi. Good for entertainment value. Like, you know, playing chess with pigeons.

FTFY
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 522
August 13, 2013, 07:17:53 AM
How does the fact that some Just-Dice players have decided to use bots to place bets on their behalf have anything to do with the site being a scam?

It doesn't even fit your own definition.  There's nothing fraudulent or deceptive going on.  Lots of players openly discuss their bot strategies, and share their code between themselves.  Just-Dice doesn't endorse the use of bets, but doesn't have a problem with it either.  If your bot breaks and causes you to bet differently than you thought it would, you're responsible.

Again, I'm not sure what evidence you feel would help.  If you want a list of deposits and withdrawals for each user, that's not going to happen.  The same as it doesn't at any other gambling site.

Discussing scams with this idiot is not much different from discussing investments with the Aussie BBGG idiot. Good for entertainment value. Like, you know, playing chess with pigeons.
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1330
August 13, 2013, 01:47:28 AM
Quote from: Definition of SCAM
: a fraudulent or deceptive act or operation

Just-dice I have analyzed this reported scam and it seems to be completely fair, furthermore it is being run by the noble "dooglus". There is no proof of statistical data thus I am lowering this dice game. The UI is also rather amateurish which most of the time just makes me look into the owners and check whether the website is a scam, can never be too cautious when every high school kid thinks he can own a Bitcoin casino.

Update: If it isn't obvious that all the bets are submitted by bots at this point I don't know when it will be, dooglus has blantly refused to provide any evidence out of concerns of "privacy", thank you for an additional layer of privacy over the Bitcoin protocol you scammer.

How does the fact that some Just-Dice players have decided to use bots to place bets on their behalf have anything to do with the site being a scam?

It doesn't even fit your own definition.  There's nothing fraudulent or deceptive going on.  Lots of players openly discuss their bot strategies, and share their code between themselves.  Just-Dice doesn't endorse the use of bets, but doesn't have a problem with it either.  If your bot breaks and causes you to bet differently than you thought it would, you're responsible.

Again, I'm not sure what evidence you feel would help.  If you want a list of deposits and withdrawals for each user, that's not going to happen.  The same as it doesn't at any other gambling site.
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 250
August 12, 2013, 12:21:56 PM
bump
sr. member
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Merit: 250
August 09, 2013, 06:24:12 AM
Sheesh  Undecided

Any credibility you had before this has just left the station.

I'm out!

Lol, I'm just kidding, I am being chauvinistic not because she's a woman but because she's a bitch, she also follows me around posting in the same threads defending her bosses.
hero member
Activity: 700
Merit: 500
What doesn't kill you only makes you sicker!
August 09, 2013, 05:42:28 AM
You don't need to wait until a rapist is balls deep in someones asshole until you convict him, if a Bitcoin business acts in a suspicious manner then I am an expert on raising that suspicion and pointing out their skeletons publicly, I personally stop using the services of every service which is remotely suspicious.

Are you serious?  Huh

Yes I am serious, I have said that Satoshidice is a scam since day 1 yet people insisted they were legit and look now.

And look now, they've been the first successful public investment in the history of Bitcoin? Well done on calling that one.

For my records, how long have you been claiming the Sun revolves 'round the Earth?

Back to the kitchen woman

Sheesh  Undecided

Any credibility you had before this has just left the station.

I'm out!
sr. member
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August 08, 2013, 04:33:12 PM
1. "tmpb" makes a thread accusing every major site of being a scam
2. tmpb is himself, a scammer
3. Hundreds of idiots and trolls congratulate him for making this trash thread


I really don't see hundreds congratulating him.  Mostly just him and people like you arguing in this thread, maybe I have to reread it though.  It does seem like a popular thread.  Maybe he can add some of the recent scam postings and note that they're under review type of thing until he gets to take a closer look at them.  It also might help if it's noted which are proven scams for sure or not.
legendary
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Marketing manager - GO MP
August 08, 2013, 02:57:51 PM
And look now, they've been the first successful public investment in the history of Bitcoin? Well done on calling that one.

Good job distracting from the facts!
Since there is no way you guys weren't in on this, wanna tell us how big your personal cut out of the scamdeal was?

to refresh your memory
full member
Activity: 182
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Swiss Money all around me!
August 08, 2013, 01:15:13 PM
You don't need to wait until a rapist is balls deep in someones asshole until you convict him, if a Bitcoin business acts in a suspicious manner then I am an expert on raising that suspicion and pointing out their skeletons publicly, I personally stop using the services of every service which is remotely suspicious.

Are you serious?  Huh

Yes I am serious, I have said that Satoshidice is a scam since day 1 yet people insisted they were legit and look now.

And look now, they've been the first successful public investment in the history of Bitcoin? Well done on calling that one.

For my records, how long have you been claiming the Sun revolves 'round the Earth?

Back to the kitchen woman

You forget something:
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 250
August 08, 2013, 01:03:24 PM
You don't need to wait until a rapist is balls deep in someones asshole until you convict him, if a Bitcoin business acts in a suspicious manner then I am an expert on raising that suspicion and pointing out their skeletons publicly, I personally stop using the services of every service which is remotely suspicious.

Are you serious?  Huh

Yes I am serious, I have said that Satoshidice is a scam since day 1 yet people insisted they were legit and look now.

And look now, they've been the first successful public investment in the history of Bitcoin? Well done on calling that one.

For my records, how long have you been claiming the Sun revolves 'round the Earth?

Back to the kitchen woman
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