Topic: List of places to buy firearms for bitcoin - page 2. (Read 18232 times)

Really? What concerns you? I think if you read through the thread you will see that these are perfectly legal and far more supervised sales than anything else one can buy.

This seems like a bad idea...

Hey your welcome. 
I know what you mean about .22s. They used to be they cheap option for shooting. The NRA studied the reason why .22s have become rare and found it was a bunch of factors, however the main reason was because they are less cost effective to produce than center-fire ammo.
If you want to shoot green tip (M885) then you are in luck, they are cheaper than ever and it is fun to see what they can do. Frankly I find them less fun to shoot because they go through anything but leave the same hole as any ammo. For fun try shooting a 1/4 inch steel pipe. You should be able to catch the hardened steel core. 

Thanks for the great thread!  Never thought about BTC being used on firearms, with shipping to my local FFL this could be a fun thing to do one day.

I enjoy target shooting as a nice hobby.  Something I still cannot explain no local big box stores have 22's in stock. Walmart actually has a small line of people when they know they are coming in.  Is everyone's ammo situation like this?  I've had to order online and actually got better prices online but it's hit/miss on getting those.  

The project I have put aside I still need to do is shoot one of the green tips.   Need to find a hunk of metal I don't need.  But thats on my list sometime to do for fun.

Optics can be tricky. There are classes of optics that can not be exported but can be purchased. For example, I think my night vision, red dot, and tritium sights all had stickers on the boxes warning not to take them out of the country.

never thought gunbroker.com accepts BTC
nice list
cheers

Heh.  I hadn't encountered "80% receivers" yet.  People playing jump-rope with the legal line, bless 'em.  When I encountered people into this build-your-own thing, it was still a matter of starting with engineering drawings and bulk sheet metal.

Hm.  I wonder if the business about needing to actually fire a bullet was ever true.  I learned it from what may in retrospect be an unreliable source. 

At the very least, most so-called gun control laws are about selling and dealing and buying firearms - fabricating them for your own use is relatively unregulated. 

In the state where I grew up we had a gun control law I could seriously support - you had to show a certificate that you had completed a gun safety course before you could buy.  And I was on the high school varsity marksmanship team.

There are some laws about exporting military type weapons and accessories, in general they are not heavily enforced, but larger companies may be concerned about liability and just simply refuse all international service.

I'm asking because I know a few people that had problems buying gun sights, optics, gun mounted flashlights, etc. Some places ship without problems, with others purchase is only possible if it's sent to a reshipper first, and others want you to make a call and then refuse to ship after hearing a foreign accent. It seems there is a very large discrepancy between different countries on what constitutes a regulated gun part/accessory and what doesn't. Then there's also some kind of $100/shipment limit.

http://www.opticsplanet.com/export.html
http://www.borderview.com/services/for-individuals/100-export-exemption-details/

You are right about pretty much all of this, except a receiver legally becomes a gun the moment it is able to be assembled into one, not once it fires a bullet or is assembled. Thats why they sell so called 80% receivers which are mostly complete but need to be milled further to be technically a receiver.  It is legal to manufacture your own gun at home as long as you do not sell it, transfer it to another party, or leave the state with it. This is the main reason the government was so freaked out over 3-D printed guns, because they know under current law they can't do much about it. Gun laws are a funny thing, and they consider possession of all the parts needed to make a specific weapon the same as ownership of that weapon.

For example, I own a semiautomatic AK -47 variant. There is a trigger group kit that is sold from many retailers that allows you to turn a semi-automatic AK variant into a fully automatic rifle. The trigger group by itself is legal, but if I own the gun it fits in and simply order the parts, I can be punished the same as if I have a fully automatic weapon without a license, because they see that as intent. Unfortunately the gun laws in the US are purposely made to be confusing and ambiguous so that people fear to even go there.

 

early adopters !!

i have to admit i would not expect a gun shop to take btc

The US (and because of it a large chunk of the world) has a peculiar idea that the "receiver" is the crucial bit of a gun.  That is, the central block that everything else attaches to or screws onto.  So the receiver is the part that's regulated, controlled, etc.

The reason this is a peculiar idea is that the "receiver" is usually just a few bits of sheet metal cut, drilled, and bent to shape and then bolted - which  somebody could make in an afternoon in  a home shop. 

So for example someone could get mail-order parts for a barrel, a trigger, a magazine, sights, etc without incurring legal difficulties...  but would have to do legal and registration paperwork if they were to try to get a receiver.  Until they either buy a receiver, or else fabricate one AND assemble and fire the resulting gun, what they have is not legally a "firearm." 

Laws vary from place to place, so don't bet your freedom on this, but as I understand it, as long as you have not obtained a receiver, it is not legally a firearm. Any thing you have created in the shape and form of a receiver does not legally become a receiver, until you actually fire a bullet.  And at that point, if you created the receiver in your home shop rather than getting it from someone else, you are the manufacturer of the resulting firearm rather than anyone who manufactured or sold you any of the more difficult-to-fabricate parts. 

But there are lots of finicky bits to this law, so don't try funny stuff like buying a firearm outside the US and then importing everything EXCEPT the receiver -- it won't legally work the way you'd hope.  And if you live somewhere else, there are bound to be lots of finicky bits to your laws too, which I wouldn't even guess at.

If it is legal to have in your country, chances are they will ship it. The USA exports a lot of weapons, so the export regulations are usually not super restrictive, especially when it comes to unregulated parts.

Do you think any of the legal places would ship non-regulated gun parts and accessories to EU countries?

good stuff at all. keep listing more.

i know a good vendor from dark web that sells guns
witout any licenses or shit like that
he ships everywhere!
i tell you the vendor for 0.02btc!
pm me

And.... I don't think that one is even close to the duty-free zone. 

Nice card table and cash box though.     Some things don't change much.... 

Here is a gun market I have shopped at in Nizwa Oman. Lots of cool old guns, but good luck getting them home. They like Enfields, Sharps rifles, and other old bolt guns. Some of them have been worked on for generations. They have cool silver work and camel bone inlay. Real works of art.

@cakir - I added the link, thanks.


Good points. I will have to find a picture of some of the gun markets in the Middle East. They will sell you all sorts of stuff. Then B.S. you by saying "Its ok to bring home, just put in luggage". yeah right.

I think you are very limited in the U.K. I think even long guns require all sorts of paperwork, and pistols or machine guns are almost unobtainable. Here in the U.S. kids grow up shooting guns and its not a big deal.

Can you buy in UK?