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NothinG

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Quote from: NothinG on September 03, 2011, 01:08:40 AM

Quote from: mutley89 on September 03, 2011, 12:55:36 AM

Isn't it the whole point of bitcoin to make it easier to transfer money without requiring permission from any government?

Yes, and that's why I support Laundering.

Actually, I used the http://app.bitlaundry.com/ to spread 1 BTC out using http://btc-fortune.com/ over 1 day.
This gave me more chances to win without hitting 1 bet after another.

Depends on where you live .... but remember what the U.S. did to online poker etc? That is what I am laughing at, using laundering (illegal by association to it's obvious uses) to participate in online gambling of which some governments, the U.S. included have essentially banned

I live in the mother fuckn USA (check my post stalker to see what state I live in <3).

higbvuyb

newbie

Activity: 8

Merit: 0

Quote from: Richard Rahl on September 03, 2011, 11:32:56 AM

Quote from: higbvuyb on September 03, 2011, 11:02:36 AM

Quote from: Richard Rahl on September 03, 2011, 11:00:48 AM

Quote from: ThomasV on September 02, 2011, 11:18:16 PM

Either these services will be made illegal, or Bitcoin as a whole will be made illegal.

Those services are illegal.

Not Being Caught != Legal

I would like to gently remind you that USA != whole world

True enough.

But if you live in one of these countries, then it really makes no difference if you're in the US or not.

Argentina
Australia
Austria
Belgium
Brazil
Canada
China
Denmark
Finland
France
Germany
Greece
Hong Kong, China
Iceland
India
Ireland
Italy
Japan
Netherlands
Luxembourg
Mexico
New Zealand
Norway
Portugal
Republic of Korea
Russian Federation
Singapore
South Africa
Spain
Sweden
Switzerland
Turkey
United Kingdom
United States

If you engage in money laundering, the same people are looking for you.

Excuse me, but I am unconvinced that
a) all those jurisdictions would recognize the artifact that is a bitcoin as "money"
b) mixing "transactions" carried out in these mathematical constructs constitutes "laundering" anything at all (service name notwithstanding)

Try harder next time

Quote from: mikegogulski on September 03, 2011, 01:38:15 PM

Quote from: higbvuyb on September 03, 2011, 11:02:36 AM

You are the author of http://bitcoinlaundry.com/ , right ?

Have you ever considered opensourcing your work (I mean the code behind http://bitcoinlaundry.com/ specifically) ?

I am that guy, yes, but no, I have never considered open-sourcing the extremely complex and massively valuable intellectual property that bitcoinlaundry.com represents, what with how all these suitcases of cocaine keep arriving at my front door every week.

Oh, that's sad.

Sad

It would be nice to have an opensource version...

plogank

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"Money laundering is a euphemism for transactions out of view of State surveillance. Any transaction that takes place outside of State control is essentially ‘Money Laundering’ according to the State. This means that, for example, people living in Greece, who are forbidden from making any transaction over €1500 in cash, even though the money is legitimately theirs and they are not engaging in any act that is defined as criminal activity by the State, is guilty of ‘Money Laundering’ by the mere fact that they are making a transaction above an arbitrary size."

https://blogdial.wordpress.com/2011/09/02/precursors-to-bitcoin-legislation-emerge/

mikegogulski

sr. member

Activity: 360

Merit: 250

Quote from: buttcoin1 on September 03, 2011, 04:30:48 PM

Right. And if you're mining and then selling off the coins you better report the earning on your W2 so you pay the tax on the money you made.

My name is mikegogulski, and I endorse this statement.

Of course, if you owe state and/or municipal tax, your Bitcoin earnings must be reported on the relevant returns there as well. Current IRS rules put electrictiy for running mining rigs into the same expensa category as Arabian thoroughbred horses; thus, deducting your power bill is right out.

buttcoin1

jr. member

Activity: 56

Merit: 1

Right. And if you're mining and then selling off the coins you better report the earning on your W2 so you pay the tax on the money you made.

mikegogulski

sr. member

Activity: 360

Merit: 250

Quote from: Explodicle on September 03, 2011, 10:40:37 AM

If you support Bitcoin, I suggest you cooperate with law enforcement as much as possible.

I agree completely. In fact, go one better and report all of your Bitcoin holdings and cash flows today.

mikegogulski

sr. member

Activity: 360

Merit: 250

Quote from: Richard Rahl on September 02, 2011, 10:55:41 PM

The answer is: Yes. It is VERY illegal. You're looking at some serious prison time.

I think it was a couple months ago in discussion with Hiro White on Agorist Radio that I stated that I'm looking forward to my indictment.

mikegogulski

sr. member

Activity: 360

Merit: 250

Quote from: phantomcircuit on September 03, 2011, 02:11:33 PM

Do you actually get enough volume for a laundry service to be even remotely secure?

No, never, and that's one of the reasons you shouldn't use it, besides that it's fattening and immoral.

Wait, I meant to say.... yes.... YES! Yes, I do. No... well, only sometimes.

Stephen Gornick

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Merit: 1010

Quote from: Richard Rahl on September 02, 2011, 10:55:41 PM

The answer is: Yes. It is VERY illegal. You're looking at some serious prison time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_laundering
Money laundering is disguising illegal sources of money so that it looks like it came from legal sources.

Why would you assume I have an illegal source of money? The use of a mixing service does not automatically mean money laundering is occurring. [edited]

phantomcircuit

sr. member

Activity: 463

Merit: 252

Quote from: mikegogulski on September 03, 2011, 01:38:15 PM

Quote from: higbvuyb on September 03, 2011, 11:02:36 AM

You are the author of http://bitcoinlaundry.com/ , right ?

Have you ever considered opensourcing your work (I mean the code behind http://bitcoinlaundry.com/ specifically) ?

I am that guy, yes, but no, I have never considered open-sourcing the extremely complex and massively valuable intellectual property that bitcoinlaundry.com represents, what with how all these suitcases of cocaine keep arriving at my front door every week.

Do you actually get enough volume for a laundry service to be even remotely secure?

mikegogulski

sr. member

Activity: 360

Merit: 250

Quote from: higbvuyb on September 03, 2011, 11:02:36 AM

You are the author of http://bitcoinlaundry.com/ , right ?

Have you ever considered opensourcing your work (I mean the code behind http://bitcoinlaundry.com/ specifically) ?

I am that guy, yes, but no, I have never considered open-sourcing the extremely complex and massively valuable intellectual property that bitcoinlaundry.com represents, what with how all these suitcases of cocaine keep arriving at my front door every week.

Richard Rahl

newbie

Activity: 56

Merit: 0

Quote from: higbvuyb on September 03, 2011, 11:02:36 AM

Quote from: Richard Rahl on September 03, 2011, 11:00:48 AM

Quote from: ThomasV on September 02, 2011, 11:18:16 PM

Either these services will be made illegal, or Bitcoin as a whole will be made illegal.

Those services are illegal.

Not Being Caught != Legal

I would like to gently remind you that USA != whole world

True enough.

But if you live in one of these countries, then it really makes no difference if you're in the US or not.

Argentina
Australia
Austria
Belgium
Brazil
Canada
China
Denmark
Finland
France
Germany
Greece
Hong Kong, China
Iceland
India
Ireland
Italy
Japan
Netherlands
Luxembourg
Mexico
New Zealand
Norway
Portugal
Republic of Korea
Russian Federation
Singapore
South Africa
Spain
Sweden
Switzerland
Turkey
United Kingdom
United States

If you engage in money laundering, the same people are looking for you.

higbvuyb

newbie

Activity: 8

Merit: 0

Quote from: Richard Rahl on September 03, 2011, 11:00:48 AM

Quote from: ThomasV on September 02, 2011, 11:18:16 PM

Either these services will be made illegal, or Bitcoin as a whole will be made illegal.

Those services are illegal.

Not Being Caught != Legal

I would like to gently remind you that USA != whole world

Quote from: mikegogulski on September 03, 2011, 05:29:26 AM

Quote from: NothinG on September 03, 2011, 01:08:40 AM

I used the http://app.bitlaundry.com/ to spread 1 BTC out using http://btc-fortune.com/ over 1 day.
This gave me more chances to win without hitting 1 bet after another.

Have I mentioned, lately, how much I love you, SIR?

You are the author of http://bitcoinlaundry.com/ , right ?

Have you ever considered opensourcing your work (I mean the code behind http://bitcoinlaundry.com/ specifically) ?

Richard Rahl

newbie

Activity: 56

Merit: 0

Quote from: ThomasV on September 02, 2011, 11:18:16 PM

Either these services will be made illegal, or Bitcoin as a whole will be made illegal.

Those services are illegal.

Not Being Caught != Legal

randybitcoin

newbie

Activity: 2

Merit: 0

Quote from: ThomasV on September 03, 2011, 10:47:07 AM

Quote from: Explodicle on September 03, 2011, 10:40:37 AM

In case you guys haven't noticed it, high-ranking government officials like Charles Schumer already consider Bitcoin to be a tool for money laundering. These services simply automate what any user can do himself.

We can pretty please people to not do this all we want, but they're gonna - it's cash. If you support Bitcoin, I suggest you cooperate with law enforcement as much as possible. Perhaps better block chain statistics tools?

These services mix your coins with the coins of other users. that's not something you can do by yourself :-)
For example, if I am from the FBI and I buy some drugs at SR, and then follow these coins on the blockchain, you will or will not be included in the recipients of these coins, depending on whether you used the laundry or not.

thanks for dumbing it down for me lol

ThomasV

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Activity: 1896

Merit: 1353

Quote from: Explodicle on September 03, 2011, 10:40:37 AM

In case you guys haven't noticed it, high-ranking government officials like Charles Schumer already consider Bitcoin to be a tool for money laundering. These services simply automate what any user can do himself.

We can pretty please people to not do this all we want, but they're gonna - it's cash. If you support Bitcoin, I suggest you cooperate with law enforcement as much as possible. Perhaps better block chain statistics tools?

These services mix your coins with the coins of other users. that's not something you can do by yourself :-)
For example, if I am from the FBI and I buy some drugs at SR, and then follow these coins on the blockchain, you will or will not be included in the recipients of these coins, depending on whether you used the laundry or not.

Explodicle

hero member

Activity: 950

Merit: 1001

In case you guys haven't noticed it, high-ranking government officials like Charles Schumer already consider Bitcoin to be a tool for money laundering. These services simply automate what any user can do himself.

We can pretty please people to not do this all we want, but they're gonna - it's cash. If you support Bitcoin, I suggest you cooperate with law enforcement as much as possible. Perhaps better block chain statistics tools?

mikegogulski

sr. member

Activity: 360

Merit: 250

Quote from: NothinG on September 03, 2011, 01:08:40 AM

I used the http://app.bitlaundry.com/ to spread 1 BTC out using http://btc-fortune.com/ over 1 day.
This gave me more chances to win without hitting 1 bet after another.

Have I mentioned, lately, how much I love you, SIR?

NothinG

hero member

Activity: 560

Merit: 500

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: NothinG on September 03, 2011, 01:08:40 AM

Quote from: mutley89 on September 03, 2011, 12:55:36 AM

Isn't it the whole point of bitcoin to make it easier to transfer money without requiring permission from any government?

Yes, and that's why I support Laundering.

Actually, I used the http://app.bitlaundry.com/ to spread 1 BTC out using http://btc-fortune.com/ over 1 day.
This gave me more chances to win without hitting 1 bet after another.

lol you must hate bitcoin ... using laundering services to gamble ... That's like putting a big old sign up saying - Hey Gov's please make our lives miserable.... love the irony of it all though...

There is nothing wrong with gambling.
Maybe you're confused?

Also, I'm not using the laundering service for making my transactions anonymous...I'm using it to spread 1 BTC over 1 day.

NothinG

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Quote from: mutley89 on September 03, 2011, 12:55:36 AM

Isn't it the whole point of bitcoin to make it easier to transfer money without requiring permission from any government?

Yes, and that's why I support Laundering.

Actually, I used the http://app.bitlaundry.com/ to spread 1 BTC out using http://btc-fortune.com/ over 1 day.
This gave me more chances to win without hitting 1 bet after another.

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