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Quote from: RealBitcoin on November 03, 2015, 11:25:16 PM

Quote from: notlist3d on November 03, 2015, 11:10:52 PM

This article shows why I personally would not be investing in a casino - http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-poker-site-operator-to-pay-25000-fine/

Just dodging regulation to run the site if done wrong you get in big trouble. It's not a small deal operating a casino if you are operating in a place with laws. Most try to go to places to dodge these laws on hosting.

Satoshidice doesnt allow US based gamblers, and to my knowledge there arent any strict gambling laws elsewhere, especially not where I live.

But that article you put out just proves the opposite. That guy got fined because the big oligarch casinos dont like competition and they used regulation to kick them out.

So with your example you just proved how corrupt regulation is and how evil political tool can it be ( ban of BTC in Taiwan rings a bell?)

You have to understand this

regulation =/= bigger transparency

regulation = controlled by corrupt entities

Hopefully, we have FCA regulated binary options bitcoin brokers in UK and in the whole Europe trough MifiD regulation, that is not the case in the US...

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Well hello there!

Have had decent luck using peerbet the couple of times I've tried it.

Regarding cex.io mining contracts, not sure but you might want to update OP (they have been disabled for months, and are running on 2W/GH gear so likely to be for foreseeable future as it looks like BTC has to be well above $600/coin before they will be profitable again).

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Quote from: notlist3d on November 03, 2015, 11:29:06 PM

You know some people are using VPN's and Proxy's to get through to satoshidice. But blocking US I would agree gives them better chance of not being taken down.

How are the laws in Europe and China on gambling sites online? Just curious if anyone lives there and knows if legal/illegal.

What country are you in realbitcoin is I can ask? I do admit I am more familiar with us, many other countries I don't know as well I am not a lawyer.

If they are using proxy then to my knowledge (I`m not a lawyer) they are not liable, because that guy broke their TOS.

In europe its much lighter regulation, and where I live its practically nonexistent, well except the KYC policies, but nothing like fixed payout % and bullshit like that.

And I really find stupid these extra regulations, because for once they are just a burden, and for second, they create a vehicle for corruption and selective enforcement.

Who is regulating the regulator of the regulator? You get the point. Less regulation = less corruption.

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Quote from: RealBitcoin on November 03, 2015, 11:25:16 PM

Quote from: notlist3d on November 03, 2015, 11:10:52 PM

This article shows why I personally would not be investing in a casino - http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-poker-site-operator-to-pay-25000-fine/

Just dodging regulation to run the site if done wrong you get in big trouble. It's not a small deal operating a casino if you are operating in a place with laws. Most try to go to places to dodge these laws on hosting.

Satoshidice doesnt allow US based gamblers, and to my knowledge there arent any strict gambling laws elsewhere, especially not where I live.

But that article you put out just proves the opposite. That guy got fined because the big oligarch casinos dont like competition and they used regulation to kick them out.

So with your example you just proved how corrupt regulation is and how evil political tool can it be ( ban of BTC in Taiwan rings a bell?)

You know some people are using VPN's and Proxy's to get through to satoshidice. But blocking US I would agree gives them better chance of not being taken down.

How are the laws in Europe and China on gambling sites online? Just curious if anyone lives there and knows if legal/illegal.

What country are you in realbitcoin is I can ask? I do admit I am more familiar with us, many other countries I don't know as well I am not a lawyer.

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Quote from: notlist3d on November 03, 2015, 11:10:52 PM

This article shows why I personally would not be investing in a casino - http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-poker-site-operator-to-pay-25000-fine/

Just dodging regulation to run the site if done wrong you get in big trouble. It's not a small deal operating a casino if you are operating in a place with laws. Most try to go to places to dodge these laws on hosting.

Satoshidice doesnt allow US based gamblers, and to my knowledge there arent any strict gambling laws elsewhere, especially not where I live.

But that article you put out just proves the opposite. That guy got fined because the big oligarch casinos dont like competition and they used regulation to kick them out.

So with your example you just proved how corrupt regulation is and how evil political tool can it be ( ban of BTC in Taiwan rings a bell?)

You have to understand this

regulation =/= bigger transparency

regulation = controlled by corrupt entities

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Quote from: RealBitcoin on November 03, 2015, 11:49:22 AM

Quote from: notlist3d on November 03, 2015, 04:56:59 AM

Quote from: RealBitcoin on November 02, 2015, 07:48:30 PM

Well I just checked satoshidice:

3613.54081797 BTC liquid cash = 1.3 MILLION $

They can run away with it any second now, yet they havent in the past 3 years (and back in 2013 that was worth much more).

So I think that is just paranoia, I think Satoshidice is very safe, and trustworthy.

Chances are will they? No they are running profitable... so they do not want to ruin that. It is a true money making venture.

I like a little more regulation then what gambling sites provide. But not everyone wants that so it all depends on your risk your willing to do on investments.

I dont think they can get away with stoling that much.

Your little regulation wont help at all in that case. Either they steal it and they get away with it (hard to believe) or they get caught.

Either way your regulation wont help at all, only the police after they get caught if they do it.

So your regulation has no benefits, but it can definitely scare away many gamblers as their privacy would be hurt.

No i dont think any regulation is needed here.

This article shows why I personally would not be investing in a casino - http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-poker-site-operator-to-pay-25000-fine/

Just dodging regulation to run the site if done wrong you get in big trouble. It's not a small deal operating a casino if you are operating in a place with laws. Most try to go to places to dodge these laws on hosting.

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Quote from: defaultking on November 03, 2015, 02:25:35 PM

Does anyone have any experience using 1broker? Just wondering with the price increase of btc right now is it worth it to invest or is it better just to hold my btc until it tops out to invest?

No idea, but ask favdesu:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/favdesu-130350

He suggested it to me.

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Does anyone have any experience using 1broker? Just wondering with the price increase of btc right now is it worth it to invest or is it better just to hold my btc until it tops out to invest?

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Quote from: notlist3d on November 03, 2015, 11:33:00 AM

Quote from: Laosai on November 03, 2015, 11:05:44 AM

Quote from: Bud Spencer on November 03, 2015, 06:23:59 AM

I have invested many times before and lost it many times. However, cryptoboose isnt a bad website. But always remember that you may loose your. Tc.

What the hell is cryptoboose? Huh

I only know cryptoboost and that's also the first thing that popped out on my mind since this thread is about websites to invest.

If you are really referring to cryptoboost, I do not recommend it since its is a PONZI site! You should not invest on ponzis cuz of the high risk. Just my two cents Roll Eyes

It does look a lot like a possible scam to me. Also they are having problems: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1203861.200

Running out of money on hotwallet is not good when trying to get people to use your site. So I think I would avoid them.

that's a 100% ponzi and the chance is super high that you will lose everything. those things are run by criminals. do not touch it!

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Quote from: notlist3d on November 03, 2015, 11:33:00 AM

Quote from: Laosai on November 03, 2015, 11:05:44 AM

Quote from: Bud Spencer on November 03, 2015, 06:23:59 AM

I have invested many times before and lost it many times. However, cryptoboose isnt a bad website. But always remember that you may loose your. Tc.

What the hell is cryptoboose? Huh

I only know cryptoboost and that's also the first thing that popped out on my mind since this thread is about websites to invest.

If you are really referring to cryptoboost, I do not recommend it since its is a PONZI site! You should not invest on ponzis cuz of the high risk. Just my two cents Roll Eyes

It does look a lot like a possible scam to me. Also they are having problems: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1203861.200

Running out of money on hotwallet is not good when trying to get people to use your site. So I think I would avoid them.

You'll probably avoid them cuz if you'll take a look on their website, you can see there are currently only 6 active and unpaid investments Grin

Not a good sign for a ponzi that runs for almost a month. They will collapse in a few days or maybe later Roll Eyes

Anyways ,in general, people should avoid ponzis.

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Quote from: notlist3d on November 03, 2015, 11:33:00 AM

Quote from: Laosai on November 03, 2015, 11:05:44 AM

Quote from: Bud Spencer on November 03, 2015, 06:23:59 AM

I have invested many times before and lost it many times. However, cryptoboose isnt a bad website. But always remember that you may loose your. Tc.

What the hell is cryptoboose? Huh

I only know cryptoboost and that's also the first thing that popped out on my mind since this thread is about websites to invest.

If you are really referring to cryptoboost, I do not recommend it since its is a PONZI site! You should not invest on ponzis cuz of the high risk. Just my two cents Roll Eyes

It does look a lot like a possible scam to me. Also they are having problems: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1203861.200

Running out of money on hotwallet is not good when trying to get people to use your site. So I think I would avoid them.

Well its a junior account so there is your hint.

Quote from: favdesu on November 03, 2015, 06:07:35 AM

I think genesis-mining should be erased off of your list. they're not trustworthy and change their contracts as they see fit. I lost some money there

Can you explain this in detail, i dont think changing contracts is a scam. Maybe you just dont like them?

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Quote from: notlist3d on November 03, 2015, 04:56:59 AM

Quote from: RealBitcoin on November 02, 2015, 07:48:30 PM

Well I just checked satoshidice:

3613.54081797 BTC liquid cash = 1.3 MILLION $

They can run away with it any second now, yet they havent in the past 3 years (and back in 2013 that was worth much more).

So I think that is just paranoia, I think Satoshidice is very safe, and trustworthy.

Chances are will they? No they are running profitable... so they do not want to ruin that. It is a true money making venture.

I like a little more regulation then what gambling sites provide. But not everyone wants that so it all depends on your risk your willing to do on investments.

I dont think they can get away with stoling that much.

Your little regulation wont help at all in that case. Either they steal it and they get away with it (hard to believe) or they get caught.

Either way your regulation wont help at all, only the police after they get caught if they do it.

So your regulation has no benefits, but it can definitely scare away many gamblers as their privacy would be hurt.

No i dont think any regulation is needed here.

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Quote from: Laosai on November 03, 2015, 11:05:44 AM

Quote from: Bud Spencer on November 03, 2015, 06:23:59 AM

I have invested many times before and lost it many times. However, cryptoboose isnt a bad website. But always remember that you may loose your. Tc.

What the hell is cryptoboose? Huh

I only know cryptoboost and that's also the first thing that popped out on my mind since this thread is about websites to invest.

If you are really referring to cryptoboost, I do not recommend it since its is a PONZI site! You should not invest on ponzis cuz of the high risk. Just my two cents Roll Eyes

It does look a lot like a possible scam to me. Also they are having problems: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1203861.200

Running out of money on hotwallet is not good when trying to get people to use your site. So I think I would avoid them.

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Quote from: Bud Spencer on November 03, 2015, 06:23:59 AM

I have invested many times before and lost it many times. However, cryptoboose isnt a bad website. But always remember that you may loose your. Tc.

What the hell is cryptoboose? Huh

I only know cryptoboost and that's also the first thing that popped out on my mind since this thread is about websites to invest.

If you are really referring to cryptoboost, I do not recommend it since its is a PONZI site! You should not invest on ponzis cuz of the high risk. Just my two cents Roll Eyes

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I have invested many times before and lost it many times. However, cryptoboose isnt a bad website. But always remember that you may loose your. Tc.

favdesu

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I think genesis-mining should be erased off of your list. they're not trustworthy and change their contracts as they see fit. I lost some money there

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Quote from: RealBitcoin on November 02, 2015, 07:48:30 PM

Well I just checked satoshidice:

3613.54081797 BTC liquid cash = 1.3 MILLION $

They can run away with it any second now, yet they havent in the past 3 years (and back in 2013 that was worth much more).

So I think that is just paranoia, I think Satoshidice is very safe, and trustworthy.

Chances are will they? No they are running profitable... so they do not want to ruin that. It is a true money making venture.

I like a little more regulation then what gambling sites provide. But not everyone wants that so it all depends on your risk your willing to do on investments.

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good list, thank you for this!!

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Quote from: monbux on November 02, 2015, 06:02:55 PM

Just wondering, whi is moneypot under investment wallet? Shouldn't it just be basic casino investments?

Yea i added it twice, my mistake.

Quote from: notlist3d on November 02, 2015, 06:08:14 PM

It does lesson the risk of losing a lot but I see problems. A lot of scams start out paying out... so that first payment the small one you might ROI on. Then some will expand and it craps out from being a scam. A lot sadly have done this where first in got money and last in got taken for a ride.

And loans I just don't like as getting money from a default seems pretty hard. Even BTCJam you would think would have a unit or something to help with it... but they just release the persons info to you and expect you to take whatever legal route there is. If a website actually took a role in helping get defaulted money back they could easily take over as best site to loans at.

Well I just checked satoshidice:

3613.54081797 BTC liquid cash = 1.3 MILLION $

They can run away with it any second now, yet they havent in the past 3 years (and back in 2013 that was worth much more).

So I think that is just paranoia, I think Satoshidice is very safe, and trustworthy.

As for the other sites? I have no clue, I havent used them, but I tried satoshidice once.

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Quote from: RealBitcoin on November 02, 2015, 02:16:41 PM

Quote from: notlist3d on November 02, 2015, 09:29:35 AM

Each one would work different. There is not one way they all work. There are some I would avoid.

First lending as it is really hard to get the money back if they default, I suggest staying clear of it. Second one that just jumped out to me was
Casino Investment. I would also avoid casinos in general as a investment. Just not enough regulation.

I'm sure there are more that are ones I don't agree with, but everyone has different factors they want. I would make sure before any of them to do your own research. I strongly push for new people to do research before investing.

Good opinions, but every investment can be safe if you risk little amounts.

I would certainly not put all my savings in a mining contract or similar.

It does lesson the risk of losing a lot but I see problems. A lot of scams start out paying out... so that first payment the small one you might ROI on. Then some will expand and it craps out from being a scam. A lot sadly have done this where first in got money and last in got taken for a ride.

And loans I just don't like as getting money from a default seems pretty hard. Even BTCJam you would think would have a unit or something to help with it... but they just release the persons info to you and expect you to take whatever legal route there is. If a website actually took a role in helping get defaulted money back they could easily take over as best site to loans at.

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