Topic: ⚡ [List] The coolest LN services ⚡ (Read 448 times)

Ah, thanks for that. Probably would've gotten myself banned .

Anychance you have a telegram or anything along those lines? If so, forward yours or I'll forward my info.

I like this idea!


No problem!

Hey and thanks for providing this list, I've added a link to this thread from the Lightning Network Lenders' (and borrowers) discussion thread that I started a little while ago.  Hope to see you over there sometime.

Might just go around and drop 100 satoshis to posts I like and send them the download link for Wallet of Satoshi.

Obviously PMING them so I can ensure only they get it. I’ll have to think up a better solution. I’ll msg ya a bit later

I'll give it another try, and compare it to BlueWallet. If there are more of them, I'd like to try other custodial wallets too. If I use more different wallets, I can spread the risk of losing funds to them.

I'd like to setup a service that instantly pays any Lightning request of (say) 1 satoshi, posted on the forum. I already scrape all posts, so getting the requests will be easy.
But I don't know how to setup the LN-part, and I don't think a custodial wallet that can sent payments from a script even exists.

I know that I was very critical of the lightning network in earlier statements, and I still think a lot of my points stand. But just to show how cool the tech is, I'd recommend everyone to download Wallet of Satoshi (yes its a custodial wallet, but its such a small amount of money and for testing purposes I beleive this is okay FOR NOW) and messing around with it.

After using it for sometime on some misc websites, it's amazing to see that I've sent around 100,000 satoshis and I've only paid 18 satoshis in fees. Crazy to think about.

I'll edit this thread with some satoshi giveaways from here if you use the lightning network.

Ah, wish EClair was on IOS then.

Wallet of Satoshi is fine in my opinion. Yet again, we're dealing with what I'd called -- negligible amounts of money say something like 5-10 -- at a time. These wallets do make it easier (much much easier) but they are custodial at the end of the day.

Eclair: create your own channel and pay on-chain transaction fees.
BlueWallet (custodial): no fee (other than normal transaction fee) when sending on-chain Bitcoin to get Lightning Bitcoin (but the other way around goes through an external site (which you can choose of course), for a fee)
Wallet of Satoshi: I think that's the wallet that required me to confirm my email address, but that part didn't work so I gave up.

Oh yes, without a doubt. The current issue with this is that most people haven't been around in Bitcoin to understand the phrase -- "not your keys, not your coins" -- they continue to think that it won't happen to them (like what most people say about certain things) and they think that the law will help to protect them and to make them whole in the event of an issue of some sort. I think this is a pretty common thought among Western people, who have certain laws in place in traditional banking like the FDIC (In the US), to protect them in the event of a bank run, bank failure, etc. That to them it's seems foreign that you'd be able to lose your coins, forever, if a hack was to occur.

But yes, I do think a good amount of the speculators don't care about this, but the Bitcoin OG's truly do.

Will without a doubt give it time, and try to push this to as many people as possible.

Just for my own info, does EClair charge you any sort of fee to top up in Bitcoin to the wallet? I know that Wallet of Satoshi charges a fee for this feature.

All valid points. However, exchanges hold hundreds of thousands if not millions of Bitcoins. Apparently many people don't seem to care about very large amounts, so a small amount for LN shouldn't matter.

I read about Bitcoin in the early versions, when transactions needed an IP-address to be sent I can't wait to see what LN looks like 10 years from now.

True. LN is easy to pay a merchant with an automated system, but more complicated to pay another forum user. Sending 1 satoshi to an online LN casino is easier than withdrawing 1 satoshi.

It's still experimental, and improving. Give it time

While there's no issue with using a custodial wallet, and it should be fine when you're dealing with such little amounts of money (like a checking account). The real issue in my mind lies in the fact that if the easiest way of using LN is a custodial wallet, that's a problem. It should be just as easy to use a custodial wallet as it is to use your own wallet.

When I think of custodial I don't think of Bitcoin anymore, I think of traditional banking where you're not fully in control anymore and the power of your funds is with someone else now. Yet again, not a real issue when dealing with small amounts of money -- though it still does present the problem of a lack of control -- something that we all love to talk about in the crypto community.

I must stress yet again that I do like it, and have used it before. I just think that telling people that use Bitcoin, to go and use something that is inferior to Bitcoin in most ways (minus fees) isn't going to be easy. Sending Bitcoin to another person is easy -- you get their address and then you send it to them, that's it. No channels, no nodes, no making sure you're connecting with them.

Even in LN sending money is the easiest thing (which in my mind, isn't that easy when comparing it to Bitcoin) receiving money is an entire different issue altogether.

Love the concept, and I do hope that it succeeds. It's just tough to think about right now, when there are still so many issues with the network.

It depends: I never tried setting up my own node, and didn't have the best connections when I set up channels in Eclair, but I'm very happy with a custodial wallet. It's very easy to use.
However, I funded it with 250,000 satoshi, but couldn't pay 206,000 satoshi to Coinpayments. It said I could try any amount and pay in parts, so I sent 5 sat first, but after that it didn't accept another payment. I ended up paying on-chain.

Nobody? Taken

Pretty big fan of Lightning Spin - https://lightningspin.com/ - for the few times that I've used it, I've had a blast gambling a few bucks away and not spending anything (relatively) in fees.


I think the problem is that LN isn't easy to use for people. Anytime I've tried to use it I just run into tons of issues that require a good deal of research to figure out -- either my node (I think that's the term) can't find a path to the other person, or I click the send button like six times and then randomly it finds a path. I know it's still being developed, though from someone that goes from Bitcoin (which is SO EASY) going to LN feels like something which (at the moment) is steps backwards.

I love the potential of it, I can't argue with that. But it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth at the moment, I would think that a good deal of the people in crypto feel the same way.

Way ahead of you

Seriously though: good initiative, I like LN, and despite it's potential barely anyone talks about it.

Lightning Network Stores directory lists many sites that accept LN. Some really cool, some totally worthless.

I like lightning.gifts too, it lets you create LN vouchers. Note that this is of course custodial, and risking your funds is entirely up to you.
Here's 250 LN satoshi for the first person who claims it.

Kriptode.com has another nice feature: earn/buy/sell/follow/spam Tweets or other things for LN.

I guess the amount matters, then. It is hard to do transactions involving a significant amount such as $300 when it is not broadcasted to the network and cannot be verified through the blockchain. It has something to do with transparency. Does not matter much to a cup of coffee, though.

It was amusing at first, but with how much popularity feeding chickens through Lightning gained, the chickens were fed so frequent that they some times don't bother to walk to the seeds lol.