Topic: Lithuania joins Euro-zone (Read 1804 times)

Greece i guess would be the first..

It will be interesting to see which is the first country to leave the zone.
Last in first out?

It's interesting to see that it's a common association made, USSR = RUSSIA... my opinion on this: it's a very common held belief in the west, is that in the satellite annexed states all decisions and orders to follow or die came from Moskow (which is Russian, even if occupied by Soviet), and most of the soldiers when trouble arise came from today Russia (and spoke Russian, not polnish or lavitanian)...


interesting picture about... as always... Vodka!

For me the biggest structural problem of USSR was the absence of check and balances... so when an idea was decided to be implemented... don't stand in the path... until the cliff. it was like obamacare on steroid... for everything...

All those rich counries with their strong economy joined the Euro-zone the past years   
Let's see who will be this year Greek, Italy, Spain, Ireland, France, there will be some space if they really kick Greek out(which i really don't believe, but Merkel put's her flag allways in the direction of the wind)

pathetic Tanzania is part of the Australia common wealth... and to may be help you free yourselves from this inept path, why wasn't Iceland invaded for example?

On Nemo and his compatriot, I think that when 2 Russians (admittedly or not) argue, a policy of non interference is always the best option ( I would personally add, a swift and discreet tactical removal of yourself of the path of anything that maybe related to the escalation of said argumentation... who knows ).

(as a tip, always propose a vodka competition... the first to finish his bottle... ((at least afterward they will be quiet, (for a while))).

Not joining to eu sounds like a good reason to be invaded by nato-us empire judging by recent events.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_United_States_military_operations

http://academic.evergreen.edu/g/grossmaz/interventions.html

Joining EU sounds like a good reason to be invaded by Russia judging by recent events.

Oh common, the same language tales again... Chechen Republic, Republics of Dagestan, Tatarstan or Karelia for example - many locals there can't speak even a single word in Russian, and they have no problem with that. But, of course, they will get some expected communication issues in case of migration into other region.

I think we are mostly on the same wavelength, then. Just want to make a certain amendment to the following quote:


Russian people, as such, didn't want to kill Lithuanian, or any other language, but the Soviet leadership (which wasn't the same as leadership of Russia, RSFSR, as it was known back then) had this idea that for a better control over USSR, the population had to be more or less homogeneous. The uniform spreading of suffering, which also applied to Russians, so to say. 
Interestingly, both during the days of the Russian Empire, and within RSFSR local languages were preserved, and many of the northern and eastern minorities got new written forms of their languages courtesy Russian linguists, so that those people could keep their cultures alive.

Yes, I heard from my parents that then there was different life than Russia, maybe better due to the abundance of goods and food.. But it was...

- My grandmother and her mother with father were also happy in 'not cold' Siberia... Russians wanted to kill our language, that's why they brought people here and natives to Siberia.

- read more mass media from russia...yes, there are nasty communicating people, but i could say the same with natives russians, they love to swear in public.. but we love normal russians, love your literarure classics..

- It could be in any state, with any lecturer.. but who knows, maybe your ant hyperbolized a bit this situation..

btw, my grandfather was russian, from Chelyabinsk (as i remember, I hadn't seem him)..
peace.

Yes, that's what I was referring to. And no, it's not a different story - history is what makes a country what it is. By the way, the Soviet era is also a "history" now.

By the way, about that history... I wanted to write, why I put Soviet "occupation" in quotation marks. It was a very peculiar occupation, not like any before or after it. During a normal occupation, the occupying force will drain the occupied territory, pulling wealth and resources from it, removing much of the livelihood and usually leaving one type of production, so that the occupied territory would not be able to survive on its own should it try to break free. (Hint: EU strategy in Greece and the Baltic states )

The opposite was happening during the Soviet era. Soviet Union invested a lot of money and resources into building up Baltic industry and agriculture. The living standard in the Baltics was much higher than in Russia. Moscow was considered to be the best supplied city in USSR, but when I first visited Riga and Vilnius in mid-80s, I was awe-struck at the abundance and the quality of life. It felt like having travelled abroad.

Yes, there were dark sides too, like the forced relocations of people that Gzhugashvili was so fond of. Many Lithuanians, Latvians were sent to Russia and other republics. But the movement the other way from Russia was not a happy migration either. People were told to pack and be ready to move in 48 hours, and didn't have any say in their fate, being forced to move to a colder and sour climate of the Baltics.

The family that I know in Lithuania came there much earlier, in the 1700s escaping the religious persecution of Peter the Great after the church reform in Russia. They are "old faithers", who came to Lithuania when it was much more tolerant, compared to today. Two interesting observations. They were forced to change their surname from Russian-style "-ov" to Lithuanian style "-ovajte" in the beginning of 1900s. And the woman that is almost like an aunt to me, told me that when when was finishing an institute, she had top marks in all subjects, aiming for "red diploma". She didn't get it - the examiner in Lithuanian language gave her "4", telling her outright that a Russian cannot get a top-mark in Lithuanian (never mind that the family lived in Lithuania for 250 years and that she speaks Lithuanian better than most, and that it's her Russian that actually is heavily-accented).

this is different story, we can call it 'history'.

Probably he refers the Grand Duchy of Lithuania and the Polish-Lithuaninan Commonwealth. So correct me if I'm wrong but you guys really seems to have some long experience of being independent .

long experience of being an independent state??? read more history articles, don't draw your history...
We had independace from 1918 02 16 - 1940 06 15, and 1990 03 11 - till now. So explain what do you want to say.

That's fine by be, with a small correction: Soviet "occupation", not Russian. Two different things.
And Lithuania has a long experience of being an independent state, so I can see that you'll manage fine - you just need to draw on that experience. Latvia, on the other hand, experienced independent existence only between 1917 and 1944, and now between 1991 and 2006 (2014), so it's different for them, though not impossible.

I am Lithuanian. Read independand press. I can post in Lithuanian, predicions are different. Sorry, but we don't want to live again in russian occupation, we want to live in eu occupation, i think it's better.. have a good day.

You know, I would have agreed with almost everything that you said, if you just managed to stay away from the word "propaganda"... As you have noticed, I was asking a question. Are you Latvian to be qualified to answer it?

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French radio station RFI predicts loss of sovereignty for Lithuania. Alas, the French are speaking from their own experience:

http://ria.ru/economy/20150103/1041312020.html?hgj

In the meantime, German Die Speigel predicts Greece exiting Euro zone:
http://ria.ru/world/20150103/1041320125.html

Yes, Latvians economy was better, but not so many.. but, stop saying your MOTHER RUSSIA propaganda...
Ok, I can say the same about Belarusians, they want to leave they coutry. I have talked recently with many young and elder people. Some of them wanted to have their own business, but after some time they relized that it is too hard to make it on your own..bureaucracy and old soviet model doesn't allow to do that. I don't say that everything is good in Lithuania...Golden rulke: everywhere is good there are not us..

I would really like to hear from Latvians on how 2014 was after transition to Euro. Latvian economy was better than Lithuanian. I don't know any Latvians, so the situation there on the ground is a bit vague for me. In Lithuania, though, I know that some people were migrating to Belarus to find work and affordable housing...

Hurry, buy a ticket

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11231618/Eurozone-dodges-triple-dip-recession-but-submerges-in-lost-decade.html