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June 08, 2017, 08:21:20 AM
#44
.... I was trying to say that you can't criminalize something you clearly don't understand. Since you completely missed the point I have no further commen....

Ah, yes you certainly can criminalize something you "don't understand."

We do it all the time.

You might want to reverse that, and tell the Jihadists they "can't blow things up they don't understand."

See how far you get with that, buddy.
Classic white supremacist. Please don't be so ignorant. I'm not trying to defend the terrorists here. They have nothing to with the Islam as a religion other than abusing it to justify their crimes. I also don't think they would be that reasonable since they're RADICALIZED EXTREMISTS (and not Muslims for the record).

And using your logic why did the west go out of their home lands to kill and enslave millions of people from africa, Asia and South-America for their own own monetary gain? Compared to the destruction and extinction that the West has caused over the course of history ISIS is peanuts.
Good luck with that dude.
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June 08, 2017, 05:41:21 AM
#43
Of course you can laugh at the primitive brain of Muslims, but it will not help to solve the problem of terrorism. Perhaps it is time to demand that governments recognise Islam as a hostile religion and prohibit any actions aimed at supporting or promoting the religion.

I doubt that anything like that will happen in the near future. The current culture of political correctness and the victim-card playing by the Muslims will prevent any concrete measures being implemented by the governments.

That's why people keep calling them cucked. Save for Iberia, Western Europeans have long forgotten about Islamic incursions into Europe. They didn't have the same experience as Eastern Europeans.

Muslims have not forgotten though. They look back to the time when the Caliphate was expanding through conquest as the Golden Age of Islam. The Crusades are twisted to be seen as an unjust attack from Christians. European colonialism is portrayed as evil of the West even  though Muslims have basically been doing the same prior to Europeans advancing enough to be able fight back.


Islamism is not a religion.  Islam is.

But I admit, it is hard to separate the two.


They're opposite sides of the same coin. An Islamist want to impose Sharia on you. A "moderate" Muslim want an Islamist to impose Sharia on you. Religion and politics is the same in Islam. Islam pervades every aspect of society.
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June 05, 2017, 08:28:56 PM
#42
Of course you can laugh at the primitive brain of Muslims, but it will not help to solve the problem of terrorism. Perhaps it is time to demand that governments recognise Islam as a hostile religion and prohibit any actions aimed at supporting or promoting the religion.

I doubt that anything like that will happen in the near future. The current culture of political correctness and the victim-card playing by the Muslims will prevent any concrete measures being implemented by the governments.
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June 05, 2017, 05:59:21 PM
#41
One of the attackers was featured in the documentary "The Jihadist Next Door".

https://www.rt.com/uk/391020-jihadi-documentary-terrorists-london/

That is why I think it would be better if Islamist ideology was criminalized.

Islamism is a really bad idea.  All non-Muslims should be aware of the dangers it poses.



I don't think the religion should be criminalized, but support for extremism and terrorism should.
There's an easy way out of this:
-if you get caught showing support for terrorism anywhere, like on forums, social media whatever, and you're an immigrant = immediate deportation
-if you get caught planning or helping a terrorist attack = jail and deportation of your relatives
-if you commit any serious crime and are a migrant = jail for you and deportation for your relatives


Islamism is not a religion.  Islam is.

But I admit, it is hard to separate the two.

It's a mistake to think too long and hard about it, and to try to split hairs. The reason is that Islam has purposefully made this distinction hard to make, so that you are unsure what to do. It's a problem of their own making, not of yours or mine.
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June 05, 2017, 05:55:36 PM
#40
One of the attackers was featured in the documentary "The Jihadist Next Door".

https://www.rt.com/uk/391020-jihadi-documentary-terrorists-london/

That is why I think it would be better if Islamist ideology was criminalized.

Islamism is a really bad idea.  All non-Muslims should be aware of the dangers it poses.



I don't think the religion should be criminalized, but support for extremism and terrorism should.
There's an easy way out of this:
-if you get caught showing support for terrorism anywhere, like on forums, social media whatever, and you're an immigrant = immediate deportation
-if you get caught planning or helping a terrorist attack = jail and deportation of your relatives
-if you commit any serious crime and are a migrant = jail for you and deportation for your relatives


Islamism is not a religion.  Islam is.

But I admit, it is hard to separate the two.

All tough measures For the Arabs in Europe are very correct. Any movement towards suspicious people should be punished by deportation with a lifelong migration ban for all relatives. It would not hurt to establish such a law around the world. Concerning Islam, Faith can be correct, but different people interpret it in different ways. Particularly delirious habitation is presented by more radical Islamists.
If we take such stringent measures to the Muslims, the defenders immediately start screaming about the fact that in Europe, again emerging fascism. They do not offer ways how to defeat Muslim terrorism, their task for any reason to criticize the government. And Muslims will immediately pretend to be poor and unhappy and will tell their harassed.

It's time to tell the screaming ninnys and pantywaisted metrosexual losers to fuck off.

Then handle the problem. It can be done.

https://pjmedia.com/spengler/2017/06/03/counter-terror-lessons-from-americas-civil-war/
“The way to win the war is to frighten the larger community of Muslims who passively support terror by action or inaction–frighten them so badly that they will inform on family members. Frightening the larger Muslim population in the West does not require a great deal of effort: a few thousand deportations would do.”

The deportations would invoke "due process," meaning those to be deported would lawyer up. The solution to that is a state of martial law if needed, get the assholes out of the country. If the current majority on the supreme court will do the job without the martial law, then so be it.

Let's have front pages of Muslims that wouldn't renounce terrorism being kicked out, and people cheering at the sight of them being kicked out.
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June 05, 2017, 02:58:13 PM
#40
One of the attackers was featured in the documentary "The Jihadist Next Door".

https://www.rt.com/uk/391020-jihadi-documentary-terrorists-london/

That is why I think it would be better if Islamist ideology was criminalized.

Islamism is a really bad idea.  All non-Muslims should be aware of the dangers it poses.

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June 05, 2017, 05:46:45 PM
#39
One of the attackers was featured in the documentary "The Jihadist Next Door".

https://www.rt.com/uk/391020-jihadi-documentary-terrorists-london/

That is why I think it would be better if Islamist ideology was criminalized.

Islamism is a really bad idea.  All non-Muslims should be aware of the dangers it poses.



I don't think the religion should be criminalized, but support for extremism and terrorism should.
There's an easy way out of this:
-if you get caught showing support for terrorism anywhere, like on forums, social media whatever, and you're an immigrant = immediate deportation
-if you get caught planning or helping a terrorist attack = jail and deportation of your relatives
-if you commit any serious crime and are a migrant = jail for you and deportation for your relatives


Islamism is not a religion.  Islam is.

But I admit, it is hard to separate the two.

All tough measures For the Arabs in Europe are very correct. Any movement towards suspicious people should be punished by deportation with a lifelong migration ban for all relatives. It would not hurt to establish such a law around the world. Concerning Islam, Faith can be correct, but different people interpret it in different ways. Particularly delirious habitation is presented by more radical Islamists.
If we take such stringent measures to the Muslims, the defenders immediately start screaming about the fact that in Europe, again emerging fascism. They do not offer ways how to defeat Muslim terrorism, their task for any reason to criticize the government. And Muslims will immediately pretend to be poor and unhappy and will tell their harassed.
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June 05, 2017, 03:45:04 PM
#38
One of the attackers was featured in the documentary "The Jihadist Next Door".

https://www.rt.com/uk/391020-jihadi-documentary-terrorists-london/

That is why I think it would be better if Islamist ideology was criminalized.

Islamism is a really bad idea.  All non-Muslims should be aware of the dangers it poses.



I don't think the religion should be criminalized, but support for extremism and terrorism should.
There's an easy way out of this:
-if you get caught showing support for terrorism anywhere, like on forums, social media whatever, and you're an immigrant = immediate deportation
-if you get caught planning or helping a terrorist attack = jail and deportation of your relatives
-if you commit any serious crime and are a migrant = jail for you and deportation for your relatives


Islamism is not a religion.  Islam is.

But I admit, it is hard to separate the two.

All tough measures For the Arabs in Europe are very correct. Any movement towards suspicious people should be punished by deportation with a lifelong migration ban for all relatives. It would not hurt to establish such a law around the world. Concerning Islam, Faith can be correct, but different people interpret it in different ways. Particularly delirious habitation is presented by more radical Islamists.
legendary
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June 05, 2017, 03:28:14 PM
#37
One of the attackers was featured in the documentary "The Jihadist Next Door".

https://www.rt.com/uk/391020-jihadi-documentary-terrorists-london/

That is why I think it would be better if Islamist ideology was criminalized.

Islamism is a really bad idea.  All non-Muslims should be aware or the dangers it poses.



I don't think the religion should be criminalized, but support for extremism and terrorism should.
There's an easy way out of this:
-if you get caught showing support for terrorism anywhere, like on forums, social media whatever, and you're an immigrant = immediate deportation
-if you get caught planning or helping a terrorist attack = jail and deportation of your relatives
-if you commit any serious crime and are a migrant = jail for you and deportation for your relatives
legendary
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June 05, 2017, 03:03:03 PM
#36
.... I was trying to say that you can't criminalize something you clearly don't understand. Since you completely missed the point I have no further commen....

Ah, yes you certainly can criminalize something you "don't understand."

We do it all the time.

You might want to reverse that, and tell the Jihadists they "can't blow things up they don't understand."

See how far you get with that, buddy.
legendary
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June 05, 2017, 01:09:31 PM
#35
Honestly this is just appalling. How will someone wake up one morning and make a decision to start killing people in the name of God? May God help us all as the world is totally going insane.

Perhaps they were a bunch of sexually frustrated young men, who were under the belief that they would get the 72 virgins in heaven if they murder infidels? It is all because of brainwashing. Stop the brainwashing, and attacks such as this one will never occur.
Of course you can laugh at the primitive brain of Muslims, but it will not help to solve the problem of terrorism. Perhaps it is time to demand that governments recognise Islam as a hostile religion and prohibit any actions aimed at supporting or promoting the religion.

I don't see why it couldn't be dropped as a religion entirely.
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June 05, 2017, 07:21:35 AM
#34
Honestly this is just appalling. How will someone wake up one morning and make a decision to start killing people in the name of God? May God help us all as the world is totally going insane.

Perhaps they were a bunch of sexually frustrated young men, who were under the belief that they would get the 72 virgins in heaven if they murder infidels? It is all because of brainwashing. Stop the brainwashing, and attacks such as this one will never occur.
Of course you can laugh at the primitive brain of Muslims, but it will not help to solve the problem of terrorism. Perhaps it is time to demand that governments recognise Islam as a hostile religion and prohibit any actions aimed at supporting or promoting the religion.
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June 05, 2017, 07:08:42 AM
#33
Honestly this is just appalling. How will someone wake up one morning and make a decision to start killing people in the name of God? May God help us all as the world is totally going insane.

It seems this religion, aside from having a huge network of fundamentalists, also tend to attract the craziest kuffars. Just look at the Neo-Nazi guy who converted and then killed his Neo-Nazi friends who won't.

I can't see anything comparable in Christianity, Hinduism or Buddhism. I mean, Christians in Muslim-majority countries have every reason to launch terror attacks and start separatist movements. After all, they were the original inhabitants of those countries before Arabs and other Muslim ethnic groups came in and took the land by force.


Perhaps they were a bunch of sexually frustrated young men, who were under the belief that they would get the 72 virgins in heaven if they murder infidels? It is all because of brainwashing. Stop the brainwashing, and attacks such as this one will never occur.

I wish they do get what they wanted...   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dxpMTFBg48
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June 04, 2017, 08:47:23 PM
#32
Honestly this is just appalling. How will someone wake up one morning and make a decision to start killing people in the name of God? May God help us all as the world is totally going insane.

Perhaps they were a bunch of sexually frustrated young men, who were under the belief that they would get the 72 virgins in heaven if they murder infidels? It is all because of brainwashing. Stop the brainwashing, and attacks such as this one will never occur.
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June 04, 2017, 05:18:47 PM
#31
Honestly this is just appalling. How will someone wake up one morning and make a decision to start killing people in the name of God? May God help us all as the world is totally going insane.
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June 04, 2017, 04:29:57 PM
#30
Mark:

Fundamentalist christians are the same dont be a apologizer.
The lord resistance army in uganda are right now chopping hands from little kids and this isnt even the worst story...
They cut lips, breast, use kid soldiers. Raping is like drinking water there.

Good old testament.
Christianity in Saudi Arabia - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_Saudi_Arabia
Saudi Arabia allows Christians to enter the country as foreign workers for temporary work, but does not allow them to practice their faith openly. Because of that Christians generally only worship within private homes. Items and articles belonging to religions other than Islam are prohibited.


But our government says it's ok we will still let you flood our lands with ISLAM CRAZIES..

I WONDER WHY? Roll Eyes..

Regarding saudi arabia i agree on every point with you.
No weapons, no money for them and no oil from them because they are supporting extremist islam.

But tell that our .gov and industry.


About christians in muslim nations take bahrain for example. They are even working in the government.
Not every place is the same.


How about my good logic OR is it good logic?..

Why haven't we westerners just took the oil Wink..Why buy it?..

How about stringing them up and taking the oil..
WHO IS BUYING WHO'S WEAPONS ?..So who are the pow wow Indians us or them..

Give the SAUDI people 60% of the proceeds and we keep the rest  Cheesy.

Well the kings only give the people 30% they keep the rest..GREAT DEAL .Learnt that off TRUMP Cheesy.

And he said we should BLOW THE SHIT OUT OF THEM..

Oh i forgot he done a deal so they are looser's now..

And if you think i am wrong THEN WHY DID WE GO INTO IRAQ  Undecided..

And why have we not got CHEAP OIL FROM IRAQ ?.

Like build the country back up and buy very cheap oil      IRAQ as oil ..

And we still can bulldoze all the mosques some ISLAMIC countries wouldn't even let you build a church.

Man let daughter drown rather than have strange men touch her ...
www.independent.co.uk › News › World › Middle East
10 Aug 2015 - The father of a 20-year-old woman who drowned in Dubai reportedly stopped ... His daughter ran into difficulty in the water on a Dubai beach..

It's not because you have good questions that you will get good answers:).

It seemed a good idea to pay with fiat oil that those receiving it would use to pay stuff made from oil. Supposing some wired sexual slavery bonus wouldn't seem too farfetched.

Anyway warpdrives will highly probably not be powered by oil...
legendary
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June 04, 2017, 03:59:21 PM
#29
Mark:

Fundamentalist christians are the same dont be a apologizer.
The lord resistance army in uganda are right now chopping hands from little kids and this isnt even the worst story...
They cut lips, breast, use kid soldiers. Raping is like drinking water there.

Good old testament.
Christianity in Saudi Arabia - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_Saudi_Arabia
Saudi Arabia allows Christians to enter the country as foreign workers for temporary work, but does not allow them to practice their faith openly. Because of that Christians generally only worship within private homes. Items and articles belonging to religions other than Islam are prohibited.


But our government says it's ok we will still let you flood our lands with ISLAM CRAZIES..

I WONDER WHY? Roll Eyes..

Regarding saudi arabia i agree on every point with you.
No weapons, no money for them and no oil from them because they are supporting extremist islam.

But tell that our .gov and industry.


About christians in muslim nations take bahrain for example. They are even working in the government.
Not every place is the same.


How about my good logic OR is it good logic?..

Why haven't we westerners just took the oil Wink..Why buy it?..

How about stringing them up and taking the oil..
WHO IS BUYING WHO'S WEAPONS ?..So who are the pow wow Indians us or them..

Give the SAUDI people 60% of the proceeds and we keep the rest  Cheesy.

Well the kings only give the people 30% they keep the rest..GREAT DEAL .Learnt that off TRUMP Cheesy.

And he said we should BLOW THE SHIT OUT OF THEM..

Oh i forgot he done a deal so they are looser's now..

And if you think i am wrong THEN WHY DID WE GO INTO IRAQ  Undecided..

And why have we not got CHEAP OIL FROM IRAQ ?.

Like build the country back up and buy very cheap oil      IRAQ as oil ..

And we still can bulldoze all the mosques some ISLAMIC countries wouldn't even let you build a church.

Man let daughter drown rather than have strange men touch her ...
www.independent.co.uk › News › World › Middle East
10 Aug 2015 - The father of a 20-year-old woman who drowned in Dubai reportedly stopped ... His daughter ran into difficulty in the water on a Dubai beach..
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June 04, 2017, 03:57:33 PM
#28
Fundamentalist christians are the same dont be a apologizer.

What You will say about EU/USA/NATO supported Ethnic cleansing in Donbass area?


I would say it is Russian propaganda until i see concrete evidence.

It's not his fault. he didn't look at the direction of the refugee flow, nor understand that eurabia will not be imposed over russia for a few shekels or a few oil tankers, or simply language... serbia could be broken up, but not ukraine, nor lybia, syria or irak...

They can have hawaii... but crimea, cry me a river...

But this all story is very sad, war on the european continent among former brothers because no one was able in ukraine to do a putin long ago... corruption and a lack of the rule of the law is a deadly but slowly progressing venom... most will naturally double down.

No ready to give nuland family?
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June 04, 2017, 03:37:57 PM
#26
Mark:

Fundamentalist christians are the same dont be a apologizer.
The lord resistance army in uganda are right now chopping hands from little kids and this isnt even the worst story...
They cut lips, breast, use kid soldiers. Raping is like drinking water there.

Good old testament.
Christianity in Saudi Arabia - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_Saudi_Arabia
Saudi Arabia allows Christians to enter the country as foreign workers for temporary work, but does not allow them to practice their faith openly. Because of that Christians generally only worship within private homes. Items and articles belonging to religions other than Islam are prohibited.


But our government says it's ok we will still let you flood our lands with ISLAM CRAZIES..

I WONDER WHY? Roll Eyes..

Regarding saudi arabia i agree on every point with you.
No weapons, no money for them and no oil from them because they are supporting extremist islam.

But tell that our .gov and industry.


About christians in muslim nations take bahrain for example. They are even working in the government.
Not every place is the same.



The story of the extermination of the christians, jews and other faiths from arabian peninsula ins't well published. Because as you know before the quran revelation there was a lot of them... so from there was to there isn't, how?
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