Loan scammer defaulted a loan and still active on forum(Kabapka aka Heutenamos)

Kabapka

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Quote from: Kabapka on October 26, 2015, 03:24:53 AM

Quote from: Quickseller on October 25, 2015, 07:18:25 PM

Quote from: shorena on October 25, 2015, 07:13:45 PM

Quote from: Quickseller on October 25, 2015, 07:01:46 PM

-snip-
they are defiantly the same person, neither account was recently sold, and from the looks of it he defaulted on the loan (although the lender did not appear to provide a repayment address). According to the lender's thread, the repayment address should always be 1KvdN7tm9Vf6Mx2XRG3EhzdhtxxHDpZkLq (although the borrower should always check with the lender prior to sending a repayment to this address), which is the address the loan was funded from and it is clear that no repayments of any amounts above .2 were made to that address.

I had the same question, this thread[1] should answer it. The collateral was sold at a loss.

[1] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/a-sr-member-account-1214696

I am confused. Lottery clearly said that he was not asking for collateral for this loan:

Quote from: lottery248 on October 03, 2015, 04:23:21 AM

idk.

i can grant you .2 btc and pay .25 within 14 days, k?
i don't need your collateral, but you are warned that if you attempt to scam.
k?

" defaulted on loan Scam Alert !!! "
that is the reason you are in a mess now , would you call a person scammer when he responds everything and comes back after 14 days of term period and hands over the collateral and apologizes for the condition (without even knowing that the account is going to be sold in loss in near future).

yeah nice change of rating QS , you know this is the reason i dont care about the trust given on here .
just abusing the opportunity ? does that satisfy you ? tell me QS are you satisfied by just accusing a wrong trust rating to an unknown (probably honest) guy on a forum ?
your close minded and childish mentality is the reason you are out of DT now and VOD can make you -9999 still.

shorena

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No I dont escrow anymore.

TX confirmed, ratings removed.

Kabapka

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Merit: 100

Quote from: shorena on October 26, 2015, 04:06:28 AM

Thanks for the PMs. As you agreed on additional 0.05 on top of what was gained from selling the account, I will remove the rating as soon as the TX in question is confirmed.

-> https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/ca0043632b04e81ec98534f8a2bfda5c5c9f46fa7b97340ae74b5a7f6107cb15

yes , i dont care what people think but i believe lottery still has the message if mine " apologizing on the defaulted day" i dont care what people like shield think or gossip or fire the situation by pming people, but i will never try to et away with anyone's money
i am a strong believer of ETHICS.

Kabapka

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Quote from: lottery248 on October 26, 2015, 03:58:12 AM

Quote from: Kabapka on October 26, 2015, 03:54:48 AM

Quote from: lottery248 on October 26, 2015, 03:46:52 AM

Quote from: Shield on October 26, 2015, 07:44:33 AM

ask him

there was 0.02btc interest for 1 week and you are paying 3 weeks later so you have to pay more interest and the money that lender lost while selling the collateral

0.06 interest and money you lost while selling the collateral
ask him for repayment of 0.08btc

you pay the rest of .03 btc if you have funds.
sorry, but shield is right.

where did that came from ? ughh PM 's

however tell shield the whole loan details ..the loan was for 14 days not a week. i took it on 3-4th and it ends on 18th~ .

i will pay your loss now .05 as i never had an intention of hurting you and which has no relation with me getting neg rep.

ok, fine.

done ...https://blockchain.info/tx/ca0043632b04e81ec98534f8a2bfda5c5c9f46fa7b97340ae74b5a7f6107cb15

i will still say i had no intentions to harm the lender and he just sold the account (25th) so it was no way to know if he is in loss or how much .
however i have repaid him with possibly .01 tip or anything you call it ,
all i want to say is that i always responded him and escrow never tried to get away with his funds and was never shady .
always transparent.
thanks.

shorena

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Activity: 1498

Merit: 1499

No I dont escrow anymore.

Thanks for the PMs. As you agreed on additional 0.05 on top of what was gained from selling the account, I will remove the rating as soon as the TX in question is confirmed.

-> https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/ca0043632b04e81ec98534f8a2bfda5c5c9f46fa7b97340ae74b5a7f6107cb15

lottery248

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Activity: 1568

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beware of your keys.

Quote from: Kabapka on October 26, 2015, 03:54:48 AM

Quote from: lottery248 on October 26, 2015, 03:46:52 AM

Quote from: Shield on October 26, 2015, 07:44:33 AM

ask him

there was 0.02btc interest for 1 week and you are paying 3 weeks later so you have to pay more interest and the money that lender lost while selling the collateral

0.06 interest and money you lost while selling the collateral
ask him for repayment of 0.08btc

you pay the rest of .03 btc if you have funds.
sorry, but shield is right.

where did that came from ? ughh PM 's

however tell shield the whole loan details ..the loan was for 14 days not a week. i took it on 3-4th and it ends on 18th~ .

i will pay your loss now .05 as i never had an intention of hurting you and which has no relation with me getting neg rep.

ok, fine.

Kabapka

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Activity: 189

Merit: 100

Quote from: lottery248 on October 26, 2015, 03:46:52 AM

Quote from: Shield on October 26, 2015, 07:44:33 AM

ask him

there was 0.02btc interest for 1 week and you are paying 3 weeks later so you have to pay more interest and the money that lender lost while selling the collateral

0.06 interest and money you lost while selling the collateral
ask him for repayment of 0.08btc

you pay the rest of .03 btc if you have funds.
sorry, but shield is right.

where did that came from ? ughh PM 's

however tell shield the whole loan details ..the loan was for 14 days not a week. i took it on 3-4th and it ends on 18th~ .

i will pay your loss now .05 as i never had an intention of hurting you and which has no relation with me getting neg rep.

lottery248

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Activity: 1568

Merit: 1005

beware of your keys.

Quote from: Shield on October 26, 2015, 07:44:33 AM

ask him

there was 0.02btc interest for 1 week and you are paying 3 weeks later so you have to pay more interest and the money that lender lost while selling the collateral

0.06 interest and money you lost while selling the collateral
ask him for repayment of 0.08btc

you pay the rest of .03 btc if you have funds.
sorry, but shield is right.

Kabapka

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Activity: 189

Merit: 100

Quote from: lottery248 on October 26, 2015, 03:39:28 AM

Quote from: Kabapka on October 26, 2015, 03:38:16 AM

Quote from: lottery248 on October 26, 2015, 03:32:40 AM

once defaulter paid back .07, then it would be cleared.
pm sent, ask the kabapka.

yeap, i can make it to 0.05 as discussed via PM's
please confirm this addy --> 355vSY8LwneJbWtkbb3oaL8JazP55dZRZc

yup
please remind the user to remove the negative trust.

havent you told him ? still i have sent him a PM on behalf of you.
edit:- waiting on his response .

lottery248

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beware of your keys.

Quote from: Kabapka on October 26, 2015, 03:38:16 AM

Quote from: lottery248 on October 26, 2015, 03:32:40 AM

once defaulter paid back .07, then it would be cleared.
pm sent, ask the kabapka.

yeap, i can make it to 0.05 as discussed via PM's
please confirm this addy --> 355vSY8LwneJbWtkbb3oaL8JazP55dZRZc

yup
please remind the user to remove the negative trust.

Kabapka

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Activity: 189

Merit: 100

Quote from: lottery248 on October 26, 2015, 03:32:40 AM

once defaulter paid back .07, then it would be cleared.
pm sent, ask the kabapka.

yeap, i can make it to 0.05 as discussed via PM's
please confirm this addy --> 355vSY8LwneJbWtkbb3oaL8JazP55dZRZc

lottery248

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Activity: 1568

Merit: 1005

beware of your keys.

once defaulter paid back .07, then it would be cleared.
pm sent, ask the kabapka.

Kabapka

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Activity: 189

Merit: 100

Quote from: Shield on October 26, 2015, 03:24:24 AM

Quote from: Kabapka on October 26, 2015, 03:10:52 AM

Quote from: lottery248 on October 25, 2015, 10:40:29 PM

Quote from: KWH on October 25, 2015, 08:18:28 PM

Quote from: lottery248 on October 25, 2015, 08:12:53 PM

dammit, i am out of money now. Sad

You are not doing proper research before lending. That coupled with your refusal to accept collateral will keep you broke forever.
Learn from your mistakes, improve your business model and move ahead.

ok mate.
i used to want him to pay back, not wanting his account. i would still be with bells on if he paid back even if he defaulted.
(edited due to missing word.)

yes i agree that accusation on me is legit and heut' is my alt account but i dont know about other stuff in the OP.
but i never tried to scam or hurt anyone , i tried to collect the funds and was unable to pay him ,
if i was a scammer why would i reply after the loan term ( i.e 14 days ) and give him the collateral ? and i also messaged him and apologized for the situation but i lost the password of that new account also i was busy attending classes and didnt wanted to message him from my alt that i can repay his losses...
i have no intention in hurting him anyway ,i tried and had .13~ but the loan was far more than that ,

as it is now public i will message the lender and repay his losses with a apologising tip.
i never tried to run or default ,,it just happened.

sorry man, this trick doesn't work
loan is 15+ days late and you are apologizing after you tagged with negative trust while you were active daily on this forum
you were active on the forum everyday but contacting now because we found your alt accounts
you messaged him before repayment date and asked him for extension ?
it has been 20+ days since loan was take and you were active daily on your alt accounts and now apologizing after we have found your other accounts and you are afraid of losing these accounts

i apologized him right after i handed over the collateral ....not NOW
ask him about it , i messaged him to confirm if i was shaddy or scammy ever.

Kabapka

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Activity: 189

Merit: 100

Quote from: Quickseller on October 25, 2015, 07:18:25 PM

Quote from: shorena on October 25, 2015, 07:13:45 PM

Quote from: Quickseller on October 25, 2015, 07:01:46 PM

-snip-
they are defiantly the same person, neither account was recently sold, and from the looks of it he defaulted on the loan (although the lender did not appear to provide a repayment address). According to the lender's thread, the repayment address should always be 1KvdN7tm9Vf6Mx2XRG3EhzdhtxxHDpZkLq (although the borrower should always check with the lender prior to sending a repayment to this address), which is the address the loan was funded from and it is clear that no repayments of any amounts above .2 were made to that address.

I had the same question, this thread[1] should answer it. The collateral was sold at a loss.

[1] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/a-sr-member-account-1214696

I am confused. Lottery clearly said that he was not asking for collateral for this loan:

Quote from: lottery248 on October 03, 2015, 04:23:21 AM

idk.

i can grant you .2 btc and pay .25 within 14 days, k?
i don't need your collateral, but you are warned that if you attempt to scam.
k?

" defaulted on loan Scam Alert !!! "
that is the reason you are in a mess now , would you call a person scammer when he responds everything and comes back after 14 days of term period and hands over the collateral and apologizes for the condition (without even knowing that the account is going to be sold in loss in near future).

Shield

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Quote from: Kabapka on October 26, 2015, 03:10:52 AM

Quote from: lottery248 on October 25, 2015, 10:40:29 PM

Quote from: KWH on October 25, 2015, 08:18:28 PM

Quote from: lottery248 on October 25, 2015, 08:12:53 PM

dammit, i am out of money now. Sad

You are not doing proper research before lending. That coupled with your refusal to accept collateral will keep you broke forever.
Learn from your mistakes, improve your business model and move ahead.

ok mate.
i used to want him to pay back, not wanting his account. i would still be with bells on if he paid back even if he defaulted.
(edited due to missing word.)

yes i agree that accusation on me is legit and heut' is my alt account but i dont know about other stuff in the OP.
but i never tried to scam or hurt anyone , i tried to collect the funds and was unable to pay him ,
if i was a scammer why would i reply after the loan term ( i.e 14 days ) and give him the collateral ? and i also messaged him and apologized for the situation but i lost the password of that new account also i was busy attending classes and didnt wanted to message him from my alt that i can repay his losses...
i have no intention in hurting him anyway ,i tried and had .13~ but the loan was far more than that ,

as it is now public i will message the lender and repay his losses with a apologising tip.
i never tried to run or default ,,it just happened.

sorry man, this trick doesn't work
loan is 15+ days late and you are apologizing after you tagged with negative trust while you were active daily on this forum
you were active on the forum everyday but contacting now because we found your alt accounts
you messaged him before repayment date and asked him for extension ?
it has been 20+ days since loan was take and you were active daily on your alt accounts and now apologizing after we have found your other accounts and you are afraid of losing these accounts

Kabapka

full member

Activity: 189

Merit: 100

Quote from: lottery248 on October 25, 2015, 10:40:29 PM

Quote from: KWH on October 25, 2015, 08:18:28 PM

Quote from: lottery248 on October 25, 2015, 08:12:53 PM

dammit, i am out of money now. Sad

You are not doing proper research before lending. That coupled with your refusal to accept collateral will keep you broke forever.
Learn from your mistakes, improve your business model and move ahead.

ok mate.
i used to want him to pay back, not wanting his account. i would still be with bells on if he paid back even if he defaulted.
(edited due to missing word.)

yes i agree that accusation on me is legit and heut' is my alt account but i dont know about other stuff in the OP.
but i never tried to scam or hurt anyone , i tried to collect the funds and was unable to pay him ,
if i was a scammer why would i reply after the loan term ( i.e 14 days ) and give him the collateral ? and i also messaged him and apologized for the situation but i lost the password of that new account also i was busy attending classes and didnt wanted to message him from my alt that i can repay his losses...
i have no intention in hurting him anyway ,i tried and had .13~ but the loan was far more than that ,

as it is now public i will message the lender and repay his losses with a apologising tip.
i never tried to run or default ,,it just happened.

lottery248

legendary

Activity: 1568

Merit: 1005

beware of your keys.

Quote from: KWH on October 25, 2015, 08:18:28 PM

Quote from: lottery248 on October 25, 2015, 08:12:53 PM

dammit, i am out of money now. Sad

You are not doing proper research before lending. That coupled with your refusal to accept collateral will keep you broke forever.
Learn from your mistakes, improve your business model and move ahead.

ok mate.
i used to want him to pay back, not wanting his account. i would still be with bells on if he paid back even if he defaulted.
(edited due to missing word.)

KWH

legendary

Activity: 1904

Merit: 1045

In Collateral I Trust.

Quote from: lottery248 on October 25, 2015, 08:12:53 PM

dammit, i am out of money now. Sad

You are not doing proper research before lending. That coupled with your refusal to accept collateral will keep you broke forever.
Learn from your mistakes, improve your business model and move ahead.

lottery248

legendary

Activity: 1568

Merit: 1005

beware of your keys.

dammit, i am out of money now. Sad

Quickseller

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Activity: 2870

Merit: 2298

Quote from: shorena on October 25, 2015, 07:13:45 PM

Quote from: Quickseller on October 25, 2015, 07:01:46 PM

-snip-
they are defiantly the same person, neither account was recently sold, and from the looks of it he defaulted on the loan (although the lender did not appear to provide a repayment address). According to the lender's thread, the repayment address should always be 1KvdN7tm9Vf6Mx2XRG3EhzdhtxxHDpZkLq (although the borrower should always check with the lender prior to sending a repayment to this address), which is the address the loan was funded from and it is clear that no repayments of any amounts above .2 were made to that address.

I had the same question, this thread[1] should answer it. The collateral was sold at a loss.

[1] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/a-sr-member-account-1214696

I am confused. Lottery clearly said that he was not asking for collateral for this loan:

Quote from: lottery248 on October 03, 2015, 04:23:21 AM

idk.

i can grant you .2 btc and pay .25 within 14 days, k?
i don't need your collateral, but you are warned that if you attempt to scam.
k?

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