Topic: Local Electricty company shut me down for mining. - page 3. (Read 5961 times)

so, what's going on?

the continued reality is it costs less and less headache to get into solar if you really enjoy this hobby.

The PUD sent you a letter and said you are using a lot of electricity.  Is the PUD threading to disconnect your service?  What is it exactly they are saying they are going to do?

I know they sent a letter, said there is a moratorium, etc, but what did they say they are/will do about it?

By the way, there is only a moratorium on new loads between 1 and 5 MW.  This does not apply to you as your service is not new and under 1 MW.  

A letter saying you use a lot of power by itself is nothing.  I get those every month, it is called the power bill

By the way, I wouldn't say the OP is lying.  Chelan pretty much hates bitcoin miners.  They think it is only used for drugs, they call it "internet funny money", etc.  The PUD is really clueless there.

the good news is I have never heard of a raid in wa unless it was some type of parole or assault situation with a person hiding in said property. I hate to sound stereotypical but I'm pretty sure they have the crazo's nailded down in their jail and system vs just jailing people over a sniff and political push of some sort.

Ill be fine. Thanks everybody for your continued concern. The video was good btw and everyone seemed concerned. If anything does happen to me its ok because I'm looking to do a solar setup like philipma1957 soon. to be 100% off the grid Even when you pay practically nothing for electricity. When you run the numbers it sure does look appealing. And the fact you are 100% off the grid makes it even more appealing.

I was actually thinking of the solar setup a lot during the video. Give it a few more years and solar will be the best way to go. Assuming our gov gets its act together somewhat. I think I was paying for a panel in like 6 months with a machine. so I take a slight loss on the first batch and sell off the units. but pay for the panels. 2nd batch is 100% roi. from then on just keep adding panels and repeat.

that said its always going to be difficult to roi in any industry like this. which is why I like to keep it as a hobby. it would be a shame if I went down in the history books for a measly 10 machines

The 'applying for higher load' bit does not surprise me. In a way it matches with what you said about them updating the power lines in your area and this is their way to get info on what wire, transformer, and fusing sizes to put in.

My local power company likes to send out usage emails every week and typically I am a constant 3x higher usage than the 'Average' user in my area (and 4x higher than the lowest reported).

Like Savior, I have 200A service, miner load is 3.5kW so yes, using a lot but well under the service maximum. Aside from the friendly usage notes, never heard a word from the power co about usage.

All I can say is that if for some reason you *do* get raided make sure all your ducks are in a row so ya can laugh at them...
eg, if legally growing, follow all rules: (# of plants), location (near a school?), Notice signage (State rules regarding growing), etc. If a legal user, have your MM card and/or be sure to be under max weight of weed in the house.

seems to be a good video so far about 20mns in I'm one of the toughest critics and I'm impressed.

btw the video has a lot and is primarily about bitcoin and power companies so its worth a watch to all on forum

I have researched this further but have not finalized my research yet. Apparently all high density load customers now need to fill out an application to be approved for the new high density load rates. Stay tuned. These policies goes into effect Jan 1st 2017. These policies are very political and crooked imo.

https://youtu.be/mhwZivuaip8

Dedicated Asic Services company is a company located in this county. They are the pros in the video above. Still have not finished the video. Although I have a suspicion I'm going to hear a lot of bs.

should out to the haters sippin that haterade

Ignore the letter. Pay the bill. Send all your coins to cold storage every day, so if you do get raided your coins are safe. If mining in a pool, there should be an auto-withdraw address. It's been 2 years since I was mining any proof-of-work coins, not counting experimenting with new ones that appear.

I can assure all of you that the letter was very real.

The farm will be getting ran into the ground. Will post results when

A) Electricity gets shut off

B) Get raided for 2nd time.

shout out to all the haters and nay-sayers. You are what makes this community great.

Sadly that's normal for Power company's in some states they have to much control . my power company was suppose to give us more then 3 power saving days they lost all most 5 million or more with those three day's  in July that was the lowest power bill i had in two years even with my miners running that I have left. I read some place, there were other power company's in my area that did have Power saving days in Aug during those really hot days . BG AND E  didn't .

it's about what they lose they don't really give a rats ass what you use etc like they say it's about money more then any thing. all the power company's no matter how cheap etc it is want us paying them 500 or more a month as base . and want to make us pay for all/any research they do , it's sad but true .This kind of shit goes on a lot in my state then gets covered up to some extent .


Even if they tell you later on those warning were a mistake i wouldn't trust it, mistake or not something maybe about to happen there and it leaked to soon .

we have all kinds of ways of producing power that is a lot safer to do then most company's do now they won't use it because well money they stand to lose to much. i got a letter once offering me 100 % clean energy at 4 cent more then what i pay now because it was clean energy, how i see that is if it is really clean energy then how come it cost so much more if it is cheaper and safer to produce so the letter said and is it really 100 % clean energy,the answer is NO, how I know it's not, when I looked into going solar,( had to put that on hold for now ) the company I talked to told me any power, i sell back is sold and mixed in the main power grind and resold for more . solar as far as i know is one form of clean energy. I even looked at some portable solar kits which is one idea i may do yet just for mining during the day and shut them off at nite because i don't do it for a living and have no real plans to, in about a year and a half i hit 62, then the rules and laws change some that allow me more freedom in what i can make etc . i may increase my farm again and go a a little hard core in my home for now I'm not .I'm mostly GPU mining and building a Nice GPU farm as i go, I'm in no big rush at this point there is no reason to rush it.

in your case don't trust any BS they feed you .

cya

 The ONLY country PUD that has anything involving "kwh/sq ft" as a limit is Chelan in Washington - and per my reading of the recently enacted rate change it only applies to large accounts in the industrial power level and *MAYBE* to very large commercial-range accounts.

 I strongly suspect that Chelan, Grant, and Douglass are the only places in the US that would be inclined to worry about it, since they're the lowest rates in the USA by quite a bit due to subsidising local rates by selloff of large quantities of excess electric production.
 Chelan would be the most worried since they have long had the highest "local" usage due mostly to the population of Wenatchee (which by itself is a fair bit higher than the total COUNTRY populations of Grant or Douglass) yet IIRC they have the lowest total power production of the 3 counties by a narrow margin (all 3 are close to 2000 Megawatts total generation out of their respective dams).



 BTW - the only "moratorium" related to the hydro dams or PUDS in the area was one Chelan PUD had on *HALF MEGAWATT OR LARGER* new projects while they were researching to develop their new "high density" rate. There is NO BLOODY WAY that would impact a residential user.



 I'm also quite sure it wasn't the amount of usage being "risky" - I used very close to that 8000 KWH in a TRAILOR (pair of the old style 50 amp plug-ins for service) the last 6 months or so I was in Iowa.
 My current usage last month was a bit over 9000 KWH on a 100 AMP service.


 I'm to the point of calling the OP a LIAR about the reason(s) for this alleged "warning", and starting to wonder if there ever WAS an actual "warning" as they are claiming, especially given the other paranoid BS they have posted in the past.

What is the name of the utility you are talking about? 

Nothing else going on. As stated. Got a letter because there is a memorandum for the hydro damn. I'm going to see what can be done but doubt anything can be done better just to liquidate equipment and move on

I suspect in Oregon/Washington it's going to be far more interested in this than most states, especially on the residential side of things.  They've been working towards enforcing that kwh/sqft pricing to help curb mining, as it doesn't really accomplish what they had intended from the economic development point of view (draw in manufacturing, jobs, etc).

Here in AZ, my largest bill was just under $4k for one month, more than 60k+ kWh - but I have 400a service and they've never said anything to me.  The only thing they really cared about was that everything was fine with the city (in terms of permits, etc), and I had taken care of that.

 Interesting FUD, happens my power company is aware I was mining and didn't AND STILL DOES NOT CARE as long as I keep the bill paid up.

 I am also in Washington State.

 I suspect there is something else going on here the OP isn't talking about.

Have you tried to get any information about what is the limit in kwatt per house, maybe splitting your amp to 70-70-60 (in 3 different places) would worth?

I am running 200amp service didn't think I was even close to getting flagged yet to that level. just spying

Just to clarify I am in WA.

The have a candid letter they send to anyone about this stuff apparently. A memorandum to prevent locals from doing much with the power source. Politics at its finest.

Last I heard even the people with commercial facilities are under the microscope. commercial/non commercial doesn't matter they are spying and putting the halt on everyone with that letter.

Hate to see what would happen if did not comply.

I got the a$$ end of this so sorry if my details are vague.

BTW electric is not shutoff. just warning letter like the letter the ISP's send you now.

Maybe he lives in an area where there is a shortage of power or whatever distribution he is connected in.

Electricity willg o up.....


i got  a bill, extra big, because i consumed about 7800kwh daily.

I payed around 50usd per month, , last bill was on 700usd, because they felt that we were consuming to much electricity.


We also got a state consummers "letter" saying that prices will be higher because they will change the cables inside all the city houses/buildings as they are old and from 1960 or earlier.

but the project is for 2 years from now and there is no justification.



here you can see monopoly at it best.

I was paying 0.4 per kwh , now my bill is about 1.2usd per kwh. like wtf, i tried to complain but everyone nows the talk, big companies....