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April 10, 2024, 05:14:44 AM
#67
In my country, until the mid-2000s, the Postal institution enabled its savers to partially or completely freeze their balances for a specific period of time, provided that the freeze on the amount would not be lifted regardless of whatever reasons, even in if the person’s death. This product was not available in banks as I recall, but since the 2000s this product has been completely abandoned. When I think about the concept, I find it very useful and it can serve the financial institution and the saver as well, especially those who want to secure their savings so that they never think about using it. I think that there are many reasons that might encourage a person to do this according to his assessment of his needs in the medium and long term. The financial institution will also benefit from the liquidity that it will accumulate from the frozen balances, in addition to the possibility to impose fees for the service.
As the world advances, and civilization is in crescendo, it is expected that some practices will gradually fade away. Everyone is tilting towards freedom and liberty. Even people in the third world countries are beginning to resist centralization. I personally will like to lock my own money and still hold the key than let another man lock it and will not release the key even if I am to die.

I think a lot of families do this.

They put in money in a bank account in which they dedicate that to their children usually for their college fund or something like that. I do see the point but honestly I think it would be better if you just put it in to crypto. Even if it is locked, fiat money will still lose value over time unlike in crypto especially in bitcoin.

I am cautious about advising individuals on the long-term retention of Bitcoin for their family or children. Its security vulnerabilities make it susceptible to theft, with little to no possibility of tracing or recovery. Instead, a portion of such investments could be allocated to cryptocurrency, while the rest could be diversified into more stable assets like fiat currency and real estate. Although these alternatives may offer lower returns on investment, they provide easier and safer avenues for wealth preservation
There's no kind of investment without risk.
Fiat = depreciation and theft
Real Estate = Over price, dispute, natural disasters.
Crypto = Lose of access, hack, etc.
Just diversify and remain calm.

That's right, bro, it's safer for us to lock and hold the bank balance ourselves rather than having it locked by someone else and it being known by other people, it could be that everything will be hacked by them, when they know everything that's in it, it's not impossible, there's definitely a chance for them to hack it. our bank balance, so before we go any further, we must first secure our own personal possessions, because it is very dangerous if our balance is exposed to other people, it could result in them being compromised in an unreasonable way, because being careful first is better than It's already happened, what else can it be? It's all happened.
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April 09, 2024, 02:09:48 PM
#66
In my country, until the mid-2000s, the Postal institution enabled its savers to partially or completely freeze their balances for a specific period of time, provided that the freeze on the amount would not be lifted regardless of whatever reasons, even in if the person’s death. This product was not available in banks as I recall, but since the 2000s this product has been completely abandoned. When I think about the concept, I find it very useful and it can serve the financial institution and the saver as well, especially those who want to secure their savings so that they never think about using it. I think that there are many reasons that might encourage a person to do this according to his assessment of his needs in the medium and long term. The financial institution will also benefit from the liquidity that it will accumulate from the frozen balances, in addition to the possibility to impose fees for the service.
As the world advances, and civilization is in crescendo, it is expected that some practices will gradually fade away. Everyone is tilting towards freedom and liberty. Even people in the third world countries are beginning to resist centralization. I personally will like to lock my own money and still hold the key than let another man lock it and will not release the key even if I am to die.

I think a lot of families do this.

They put in money in a bank account in which they dedicate that to their children usually for their college fund or something like that. I do see the point but honestly I think it would be better if you just put it in to crypto. Even if it is locked, fiat money will still lose value over time unlike in crypto especially in bitcoin.

I am cautious about advising individuals on the long-term retention of Bitcoin for their family or children. Its security vulnerabilities make it susceptible to theft, with little to no possibility of tracing or recovery. Instead, a portion of such investments could be allocated to cryptocurrency, while the rest could be diversified into more stable assets like fiat currency and real estate. Although these alternatives may offer lower returns on investment, they provide easier and safer avenues for wealth preservation
There's no kind of investment without risk.
Fiat = depreciation and theft
Real Estate = Over price, dispute, natural disasters.
Crypto = Lose of access, hack, etc.
Just diversify and remain calm.
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April 09, 2024, 11:59:34 AM
#65
In my country, as far as I know this is possible

It would be so much helpful to be honest for someone
who has a hard time managing finances. Though it might
prove to become an inconvenience since you can’t just
take it out whenever you need something for emergency so it will
be better to just specifically allocate the money to something instead
of putting all your money into it
Some users are saying that it is a time deposit. I already heard it before and the feature is only normal, so I wouldn't wonder anymore if this also existed in your county. Yeah it its like a blessing in disguise if I can describe it in a quoted way, and I remember staking here because in staking, we are also locking our coins until a certain period of time.

I have a better advice than what you gave there, and that is, we only need to allocate small amounts of money here and the rest will be kept as savings, to be used in emergency situations, same thing what most people do when they invest here in cryptos. Another benefit of doing this is we won't feel devasted, in case we lose our money because it was only a small amount anyway, except only if the platform crashed when we are about to harvest our profits, together with our capital.
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April 07, 2024, 11:34:39 AM
#64
In my country, until the mid-2000s, the Postal institution enabled its savers to partially or completely freeze their balances for a specific period of time, provided that the freeze on the amount would not be lifted regardless of whatever reasons, even in if the person’s death. This product was not available in banks as I recall, but since the 2000s this product has been completely abandoned. When I think about the concept, I find it very useful and it can serve the financial institution and the saver as well, especially those who want to secure their savings so that they never think about using it. I think that there are many reasons that might encourage a person to do this according to his assessment of his needs in the medium and long term. The financial institution will also benefit from the liquidity that it will accumulate from the frozen balances, in addition to the possibility to impose fees for the service.

I know that it is possible to secure a deposit in the bank with any type of asset, but with the possibility of permanent disposal of it, meaning that its owner cannot ask the bank to lock it.
What I would like to ask is whether this product exists in the banking system of your country and why, in your opinion, are there central banks that do not allow it? Also, is this possible on online virtual banks?

My personal expectation is that this will be possible with some small local banks or state postal institutions. I also expect that this is not allowed in other laws because I have not heard of it much.

If I'm not mistaken, you are talking about fixed deposits where you get more interest than saving for locking your money for a fixed frame of time. You can't withdraw that money before the maturation time, in case you do, there's a penalty. Some don't let you withdraw anyway before maturity but allow loan keeping the FD as collateral.
Other similar products are bonds and debentures, some even issued by the central bank. Depending on the type, they are generally longer and has similar interest rate as FD, some even can be traded as stocks on the market.
If you are in for a very long time and don't need liquid cash, you could just do SIP or buy stocks of blue chip companies or curated index and enjoy a better ROI.
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April 07, 2024, 10:12:06 AM
#63
What I would like to ask is whether this product exists in the banking system of your country and why, in your opinion, are there central banks that do not allow it? Also, is this possible on online virtual banks?
From your notes, I can judge the meaning: not all banks operating in certain countries have the same rules, your country has a system like that and my country like this, as far as I know banks in our country really respect their customers, Whatever is done by the bank must have approval from the customer, there is no forcing, let alone issues regarding money, freezing or other things that make the customer unhappy and suffer losses.

Our bank here has a deposit system, meaning that those who make a deposit agreement within a certain period of time, for example six months to one year with a minimum nominal deposit of $15k to $150k will get a percentage of profits from the bank, Of course, the deposit agreement cannot be liquidated before the maturity date, even if the customer dies, but the profit interest will still continue as in the initial agreement, only the customer's family can transfer all of it.

The point is that banks in our area have deposits or funds that are locked for a time agreed upon by both parties, but the bank does not just lock them without approval from the customer and the applicable law.
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April 07, 2024, 09:48:53 AM
#62
I think a lot of families do this.

They put in money in a bank account in which they dedicate that to their children usually for their college fund or something like that. I do see the point but honestly I think it would be better if you just put it in to crypto. Even if it is locked, fiat money will still lose value over time unlike in crypto especially in bitcoin.

I am cautious about advising individuals on the long-term retention of Bitcoin for their family or children. Its security vulnerabilities make it susceptible to theft, with little to no possibility of tracing or recovery. Instead, a portion of such investments could be allocated to cryptocurrency, while the rest could be diversified into more stable assets like fiat currency and real estate. Although these alternatives may offer lower returns on investment, they provide easier and safer avenues for wealth preservation

I don't like to give financial advice either, everyone should do their own research before investing in anything. One of the facts is that as time passes, fiat currencies lose value, even when someone keeps money in a bank and earns interest on that amount, that interest does not cover the loss of value. So what the OP is suggesting is a bit strange, why would anyone keep/lock money that will lose value over time? I understand people who keep cash at home and don't want anything to do with banks, they are clear to me... in case things go downhill it's good to have cash with you, banks can lock up and limit withdrawals at any time.

Crypto has proven to be a very good investment, Bitcoin the most but other coins have achieved a lot in the last 10 years, and I think that trend will continue. So I guess it would be easy for anyone to invest in crypto and lock/stake some amount for a longer period, I think it's way better than dealing with banks.
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April 07, 2024, 09:13:55 AM
#61
I think a lot of families do this.

They put in money in a bank account in which they dedicate that to their children usually for their college fund or something like that. I do see the point but honestly I think it would be better if you just put it in to crypto. Even if it is locked, fiat money will still lose value over time unlike in crypto especially in bitcoin.

I am cautious about advising individuals on the long-term retention of Bitcoin for their family or children. Its security vulnerabilities make it susceptible to theft, with little to no possibility of tracing or recovery. Instead, a portion of such investments could be allocated to cryptocurrency, while the rest could be diversified into more stable assets like fiat currency and real estate. Although these alternatives may offer lower returns on investment, they provide easier and safer avenues for wealth preservation
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April 07, 2024, 08:26:54 AM
#60
OP description of the system is akin to saving instruments called "term deposits" in some countries, whereby savers make a commitment not to withdraw any amount of their balance for a specified duration with restricted cancellations. Yet, these rules and regulations also differ from one country to another based on their central banks and banking regulations.

While some central banks might not allow these kinds of instruments because they have a focus on liquidity policies in the financial markets and other consumer protection issues, some savers may find freezing funds for an irreversible period unfavorable as it affects their financial flexibility.
In terms of the availability of such products in the virtual banking system, it should be said that it would vary with respect to each bank's set of rules and regulations. There are virtual banks which may have different products with similar functionality while others could be totally unavailable.
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April 06, 2024, 05:59:38 PM
#59
     Lock our balance in the bank? Isn't this like having a time deposit where we choose when we can withdraw it? Is that right? It seems that there is no such service in the
bank that you are referring to.

     Although I don't have a bank account at any bank, first of all, I don't trust them. Maybe even if I open a bank account, it's just because of the requirements for other things.
But in the end I still I don't trust it to deposit all my fund.
You do well to not trust banks, I do have a bank account but I only keep there some money to pay my bills and other random stuff that I may buy from time to time, but I do not keep any large amount of money there, and the reason for this is that it does not really makes sense to keep large amounts of fiat anyway, if you can save a great deal of your monthly pay then you need to invest it in something, it does not have to be bitcoin by the way, there are other assets which are priced cheaply enough and that could allow a person to preserve their wealth by investing in them.
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April 04, 2024, 12:44:22 AM
#58
There might be several reasons why Banks do not offer that option, namely :

1. There are no huge demand for such an option.
2. Banks generate profit from the fees that they charge you to make transactions, not to lock it indefinately.
3. Passive accounts is a administrative burden to them.
4. Dormant accounts are vulnerable to fraud, because it is easy targets. (Less monitoring)

These are just some of the reasons why Banks might not want to offer something like this to the public, but you can do this with smart contracts or multisig wallets in Bitcoin.  
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April 04, 2024, 12:09:30 AM
#57
What I would like to ask is whether this product exists in the banking system of your country and why, in your opinion, are there central banks that do not allow it? Also, is this possible on online virtual banks?
Maybe the system you mentioned is the same as what is available in my country's banking system, usually called term deposits or time deposit, where customers can save their money and choose how long they will keep it and will get interest, but it is clear that the interest on all banking products is small, even it's can be said not worth it at all unless you save it in a very large amount, but a large amount will certainly provide more benefits when invested than just being kept in the bank with a small interest rate.
In my opinion, virtual banks are much less safe than conventional banks, and maybe that can be done, but the government will definitely implement strict regulations to protect customers, but to be honest, I don't really trust virtual banks and only use them as a means of transaction, not saving because this is just as dangerous by saving our coins in CEX.
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April 03, 2024, 11:35:47 PM
#56
     Lock our balance in the bank? Isn't this like having a time deposit where we choose when we can withdraw it? Is that right? It seems that there is no such service in the
bank that you are referring to.

     Although I don't have a bank account at any bank, first of all, I don't trust them. Maybe even if I open a bank account, it's just because of the requirements for other things.
But in the end I still I don't trust it to deposit all my fund.
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April 03, 2024, 07:04:50 PM
#55
I don't think locking the bank balance would be the right decision. If you can't use the money for your own needs then what will happen with the money. People who are good at saving save thinking about future security but don't agree with locking up. We have direct personal expenses no one can say when we will need them if there is no security then there is no need to keep them in the bank. You cannot withdraw money transfer money or access your account during the lockout period.
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April 03, 2024, 06:00:37 PM
#54
This is not bad but you better not lock the only amount of money that you have. If you have a goal and you’re saving towards it, I hope you know to have emergency funds too, so if something unplanned happens, you will not worry on how to access the locked funds but use the emergency fund. If you don’t plan this way, you could get stuck someday with no one to rescue you. You’d have your funds locked but can’t access it to help yourself.
I don't have any experience of locked funds in my country, maybe it exists but I've not used the service, what I know in my country is fixed deposit, that is where you keep certain amount in the bank for specific period of time, you can not access the money until after the agreed time and interest will be added to the person. This type of savings applies when someone has a project that they perhaps don't want to touch their funds until the time when they want to use it, aside from this, it's better to invest and leave some money in savings, Incase you need to spend unexpectedly, so you'll not be stranded or looking for where to borrow money.

Yes. That is technically the same thing that I am talking about. The fact that you cannot access your money till the agreed time means that it is locked away from you. And all I’m saying is that while you participate in this, have some actual emergency funds so if something were to happen, you wouldn’t be stranded or left to borrow money. The way I know this idea works is that you can get the money if you really persist, but you’ll lose some of it. So avoid having to lose some of it by preparing ahead.
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April 03, 2024, 04:01:39 PM
#53
I know that it is possible to secure a deposit in the bank with any type of asset, but with the possibility of permanent disposal of it, meaning that its owner cannot ask the bank to lock it.
What I would like to ask is whether this product exists in the banking system of your country and why, in your opinion, are there central banks that do not allow it? Also, is this possible on online virtual banks?
There is a term for freezing personal savings, for example if you make savings for a child and you can give an order to the bank to freeze the money in the savings so that no one can ever take it before they unblock it. I don't know if that's what you're asking because I did it for my children even though the amount of savings in it wasn't that big.

My personal expectation is that this will be possible with some small local banks or state postal institutions. I also expect that this is not allowed in other laws because I have not heard of it much.
I doubt banks don't provide this service because as far as I know they are quite sensitive to people's fund issues. In fact, what makes people no longer believe in savings is because their value continues to decrease because money is unproductive. Whether there is a law or not we have to look on their website and now we are too lazy to find out about the problem.
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April 03, 2024, 03:16:22 PM
#52
This is not bad but you better not lock the only amount of money that you have. If you have a goal and you’re saving towards it, I hope you know to have emergency funds too, so if something unplanned happens, you will not worry on how to access the locked funds but use the emergency fund. If you don’t plan this way, you could get stuck someday with no one to rescue you. You’d have your funds locked but can’t access it to help yourself.
I don't have any experience of locked funds in my country, maybe it exists but I've not used the service, what I know in my country is fixed deposit, that is where you keep certain amount in the bank for specific period of time, you can not access the money until after the agreed time and interest will be added to the person. This type of savings applies when someone has a project that they perhaps don't want to touch their funds until the time when they want to use it, aside from this, it's better to invest and leave some money in savings, Incase you need to spend unexpectedly, so you'll not be stranded or looking for where to borrow money.

Well we all know that there are a lot of disadvantage of keeping our money in bank, regardless if it is on locked funds or what we call time deposit. For one it offer fixed rate and it's much lower as we compare it to say stocks.

And again, for obvious reasons, your money is locked, meaning yo can't touch it for a certain period of time. What if you have a emergency on your end? And of course, inflation, after the lock in and taxes are paid, the profit you are going to make will not beat inflation.
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April 03, 2024, 01:01:38 PM
#51
I think a lot of families do this.

They put in money in a bank account in which they dedicate that to their children usually for their college fund or something like that. I do see the point but honestly I think it would be better if you just put it in to crypto. Even if it is locked, fiat money will still lose value over time unlike in crypto especially in bitcoin.
Yes that's right. This is what often happens to many people who lock their bank accounts to dedicate the money at a later date, in other words they make a deposit. Because for them deposits have better protection than saving money in crypto because they are afraid of scammers or hackers. In fact, if they study crypto well they will benefit in the future and can even achieve financial freedom for the future of their children and grandchildren.

That's why they prefer deposits because the system of money parked by the bank and its disbursement must have two layers of security which is definitely more guaranteed. In fact, if they were critical, they would realize that making a deopsitio or locking an account at the bank means the profits will not be worth it in the long run because money will lose value every year due to inflation. So I still recommend investing in crypto rather than locking money in the bank.
Bank deposits are like highway lane discipline. Yes, it's familiar and comfy.You going anywhere? Another factor is inflation, which eats into money. Is the bank on your side? Prices growing faster than interest rates make'security' an illusion.

Crypto is volatile, I know. Like every new territory, bad players exist. However, fear is the biggest risk. An entire asset class is ignorantly dismissed. Crypto is about controlling your money and financial future. Wealth that can surpass the dependency system is the goal. Generational wealth.
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April 03, 2024, 12:26:39 PM
#50
I don't like keeping all my money in the bank at all. It's important to save some money, but if I let all my money sit in a bank account it would be a complete waste. Banks use customer deposits as capital to lend to others and make profits. Why not proactively take advantage of that money to invest or do business, thereby increasing profits for yourself?

I usually do not keep more than enough for my immediate needs and possibly the livelihood of my family in the settlement, the rest I will put into things that can generate profit. profit. This I find quite useful as it not only helps me maintain control of my cash flow but also has the potential to bring in large profits.
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April 03, 2024, 12:08:01 PM
#49
If I am not wrong some banks are offering such services, locking certain amount for certain period of time or just pay monthly payment and it will give maturity value of certain amount which is higher than a common savings account. But who does want such schemes? Do you like your funds to be locked somewhere and you can't access it even if you want?

I find people don't like such idea that's why it's not available and for someone who look for similar can invest on bonds and gold which is actually better than getting returns in Fiat.
there are some people out there that lock their money in deposits just because they have no idea what should they do with their unused money or they simply try to get more privileges from the bank, such as credit card with raised limits and so on I think it only target that kind of specific people or at least people with money that just don't really like investing by themselves but want to have managed investment and they are fine with the low interests.

personally i'm never ever attracted to this kind of investment seems like a waste of time honestly, the interests just aren't worth it for the time its getting locked could easily get that much return within a night just from crypto alone so its no point for me but I can see that sometime if someone's wealth is too much they might want to diversify and its completely fine but honestly even that maybe better off investing in gold or any other precious metal.

As said, that investment doesn't really appealing for the new era customers of banks to invest and still such investment is in practice but only used by less people, so it's not rocket science why it's not offered by banks anymore.

Locking fiat over a year in bank account as any scheme is stupid idea and should not be viewed as investment in the first place.
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April 03, 2024, 07:56:08 AM
#48
This is not bad but you better not lock the only amount of money that you have. If you have a goal and you’re saving towards it, I hope you know to have emergency funds too, so if something unplanned happens, you will not worry on how to access the locked funds but use the emergency fund. If you don’t plan this way, you could get stuck someday with no one to rescue you. You’d have your funds locked but can’t access it to help yourself.
I don't have any experience of locked funds in my country, maybe it exists but I've not used the service, what I know in my country is fixed deposit, that is where you keep certain amount in the bank for specific period of time, you can not access the money until after the agreed time and interest will be added to the person. This type of savings applies when someone has a project that they perhaps don't want to touch their funds until the time when they want to use it, aside from this, it's better to invest and leave some money in savings, Incase you need to spend unexpectedly, so you'll not be stranded or looking for where to borrow money.
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