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hero member
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September 14, 2017, 02:38:00 PM
#32
I sent Theymos a pm regarding the difficulty the CaptCha page is causing me. Is there any way to disable the captcha on login page? I use opera mini old to access the forum since November 2016, Yesterday My browser crashed, I reinstalled it and tried to login but Opera mini (old) doesn't have JavaScript functionality. Currently using Firefox to access the forum. The experience hasn't been smooth so far. Didn't notice the new Captcha feature as I've always had "Always stay logged in" active.

Can I appeal this option be removed?
sr. member
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August 31, 2017, 11:49:37 AM
#31
Google's captcha sucks  Cry
legendary
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Get your game girl
August 30, 2017, 03:39:27 AM
#30
Actually,the captcha works perfect the way it was suppose to be.Once we solve the captcha couple of times from the same IP for login,it doesn't need you to solve the captcha again anymore.I don't know if it is programmed that way but once your ip is white listed you can get rid off the captcha.I had an option to use it when it used it first couple of times from my phone/laptop now it doesn't ask me to solve it as only clicking on "I'm not a robot" does it for me.
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August 30, 2017, 03:12:50 AM
#29
I really appreciate this although sometimes captcha makes me upset because it is always wrong and it took a few minutes to login.
 
legendary
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Vile Vixen and Miss Bitcointalk 2021-2023
August 29, 2017, 09:26:06 PM
#28
It's happening again. I keep getting "Incorrect Recaptcha." or "You must solve the CAPTCHA (JavaScript required)." I had to try dozens of times before I could finally log in; I was just about ready to give up altogether. Undecided
global moderator
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In a world of peaches, don't ask for apple sauce
August 17, 2017, 10:09:24 AM
#27
Login captcha is pretty annoying because every time I login it asks me 3 different puzzles. I also realized that after this captcha thing implemented forum log me out occasionally when I'm browsing. When I try to post something it log me out after I press Post. Weird, this hasn't happened before captcha.
If it randomly logs you out, make sure you've checked the "Always stay logged in" checkbox or at least set the "Minutes to stay logged in" to something bigger than an hour (since 60 minutes is the default) when logging in.
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August 17, 2017, 09:40:43 AM
#26
Login captcha is pretty annoying because every time I login it asks me 3 different puzzles. I also realized that after this captcha thing implemented forum log me out occasionally when I'm browsing. When I try to post something it log me out after I press Post. Weird, this hasn't happened before captcha.
global moderator
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In a world of peaches, don't ask for apple sauce
August 16, 2017, 04:52:38 PM
#25
If a malicious person wants to bypass Google Captcha, the person can do it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iMU9HbJ7Wo
Indeed, but it requires more effort and time (especially when bruteforcing large amounts of captchas in a small period of time) rather than just running the captcha through and OCR library and echoing out the results.

A bit OT, but the presentation is pretty interesting though. Wonder how long will it take till Google ups it's defenses (if it hasn't already).
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August 16, 2017, 04:46:55 PM
#24
If a malicious person wants to bypass Google Captcha, the person can do it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iMU9HbJ7Wo
global moderator
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In a world of peaches, don't ask for apple sauce
August 16, 2017, 04:42:40 PM
#23
Please do not use google captcha.
Use alternative.

I was going to ask the same.
Feeding the G AI and allowing them to know about every login seem not fine to me.
I am calling for in house implementation.
Any in-house captcha implementation would be inferior (and probably easily crackable) compared to a system dev'd by the multi-billion data and IT tycoon that is Google. While I don't particularly like the captcha tech, it's effective and AFAIK nobody in the dark circles of the Internet managed to figure out a way to break it (edit: as in near 90-100% success ratio on a large scale brute force attempt).

If you dislike being tracked, you should probably also stop using Google search, avoid (or at least block the analytics script from even downloading) any website  that happens to use Google Analytics (hint: it's most of them) and throw your Android phone (if you're using Apple and think you are being tracked less than on an Android, I really have nothing to say to you) out the window.

I understand why captcha is important but am i the only one that has problems on a weekly base in solving them ?

It switches every week. First they are easy to solve, some other moments it's suddenly impossible to solve... another day's every solved captcha gives constant error... this ain't normal anymore.

We sould have more methodes to solve and enter/login/claim. I wonder ow many people stop doing anything because of this.
Clear your cookies (at least any Google ones). According to a user in this thread, apparently it helps.
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August 16, 2017, 04:35:37 PM
#22
I understand why captcha is important but am i the only one that has problems on a weekly base in solving them ?

It switches every week. First they are easy to solve, some other moments it's suddenly impossible to solve... another day's every solved captcha gives constant error... this ain't normal anymore.

We sould have more methodes to solve and enter/login/claim. I wonder ow many people stop doing anything because of this.
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August 16, 2017, 11:00:42 AM
#21
Please do not use google captcha.
Use alternative.

I was going to ask the same.
Feeding the G AI and allowing them to know about every login seem not fine to me.
I am calling for in house implementation.
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August 15, 2017, 10:12:48 PM
#20
It is a good idea to put login captcha when logging in. Spambots could possibly enter your password by chance using combinations. Since spambots could not pass captchas, there will be a stronger security in this forum. Also, it is a good idea to put captchas before posting to prevent spamming post possibly created by an upgraded version of a spambot. Users using spambot could be terminated if captchas are implemented in this forum.
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August 14, 2017, 08:07:29 PM
#19
Here's an example of the "select all things until none are left" captcha slowdown (that I've encountered personally as well):

I've seen that happen before (rarely) on Tor, but a small delay isn't very bothersome, and I've always been able to fix the really bad delays by refreshing the page or getting a new Tor identity.

Elsewhere, someone suggested Solvemedia, but I think that all captchas based on reading text are actually easier for high-quality OCR to solve than for humans. The photo-based ones give computers a major disadvantage over humans. I don't care very much if people use services like 9kw.eu to solve the captchas, since that at least has a cost, but if a captcha can be OCRed, then they have no cost at all, making them completely useless.

If someone has other suggestions for good captcha services/libraries, let me know. I don't really like using Google products, since Google's whole business model is spying on people. Though as I mentioned, I don't have much faith in captchas based on reading mangled text.

I am not sure how difficult to implement this via SMF would be, however would it be possible to have users attempt to login on /login.php then on a /login2.php page would check if the account attempting to be logged into meet a certain criteria

I thought about that, but it'd be a bit difficult to implement, and I'm not sure how much value it'd really provide. Even if a captcha isn't required in 99% of logins, the 1% of logins where it is required is going to screw up bots, etc.
hero member
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August 14, 2017, 04:51:42 PM
#18
Theymos,

May I suggest locking this thread at the top here temporarily?   I participated in a couple of other threads B4 I realized you already addressed this publicly.  Sorry for that.  I am not a Mod here so I can't sticky this.
legendary
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August 14, 2017, 08:53:22 AM
#17
Whoever is having problem with captcha(too many NEXT-SKIP buttons, too many street numbers(stores, vehicles, roads, aliens  Shocked) to click, failed to verify etc etc) simplest solution is to delete google cookies. Tested long time ago and it is working.
full member
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August 14, 2017, 08:27:14 AM
#16
Hope this will only be a temporary thing. The captcha is pretty annoying.
sr. member
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August 14, 2017, 08:20:23 AM
#15
Sorry Mr Theymos but i don't like this feature, it keeps me annoying as the images are keep changing..first it says to select all street signs, then select vehicles...then says me to select a store in front of building..and lastly it says there was some problem with captcha.. Roll Eyes
legendary
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August 14, 2017, 06:29:30 AM
#14
Anyway, there's a potential bug, or rather.. an oversight.

Fixed, thanks!

Please do not use google captcha.
Use alternative.

Why? Recaptcha is a bit difficult, though effective. And they don't ban Tor or anything like that.

The problem is Tor likes to switch IP randomly, sometimes it happens while you are trying to solve the captcha. The captcha images are so slow to load sometimes (they fade in from white) so sometimes you run out of time. Also it's pretty hard, I had to try several times because I was getting "incorrect recaptcha".

I like to use noscript and a proxy here for obvious reasons: bitcoins and scammers don't mix well, so you want to take measures against it.
legendary
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Vile Vixen and Miss Bitcointalk 2021-2023
August 14, 2017, 06:23:08 AM
#13
test

(I kept getting an "Incorrect recaptcha." error when I tried to log in, but it seems I can log in successfully by trying to reply to a thread... not sure what happened there.)
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