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sr. member
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November 26, 2019, 09:13:37 PM
I think the long-term hold is for people who believe bitcoin will rise in the future, but I prefer to hold it back if the price is still down and sell it if it has gone up, that is what I have applied today to buy and let it rise.
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November 26, 2019, 08:39:31 PM
Long term holding still work but only for a very few coins and if one is lucky to hold any of them, you will surely smile. I have of a coin that has done x72 this year even with the current market situation and those holding the coin since the beginning of this year are now in real money.
Right, the point is that we have to know what to hold in the long run, not just coins or tokens, but must really have a sale value wherever and whenever, because changing market conditions really require everyone to use good analysis before holding a coin or token.
Long term hodl is not a sense thing again consider about when you can make a few bucks at the same time and then you waste all of your chance for that to bet on the long term hodl but when there was a bearish trend like what already happened with bitcoin yesterday and then you are getting more and more lost. That means long term investment is not a good choice again. Try to make the decision based on the market and trend.
Its like people don't understand that some coins are very good for long term hold, for example coins that solves problems in crypto space and still become scarce over time so tell me how will these coins not have value over time? its all about their real use cases
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November 26, 2019, 05:56:54 PM
Why do you refuse to face the reality of the present state of the crypto market? I always laugh when I see people still talking about long term hodl when the reality is staring us in the face. Don't be a fool, only the smart are leading the race in the crypto sphere of today. Why do you decide to hodl when you know that the price may dump? Why not sell at the peak and then you can buy back at the bottom. The race is not to the fool but to the wise. Selling at the peak and buying back at bottom is wisdom but holding at the peak expecting a magic spike is foolishness. Bull run is not here yet, do not expect a magic spike. When the bull run is here, you don't need a prophet to tell you that. Be smart.

Sure, we need to be smart and wise. Also we shoud have a cold had - and that is the key, for mi opinion. But if you are a long term investor with distance for a few years - better is hold and dont worry. We will see BTC 30K. Maybe year needed, maybe two, Maybe by the end of this year or tomorrow.
It is not even logical  to write such meaningless prediction here, the chance of hitting the $30k price per Bitcoin is almost impossible. The long term investing is something we use the time factor in order to wait for the bull market but the market demand fell even more due to the FUD.
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November 26, 2019, 03:35:06 PM
Why do you refuse to face the reality of the present state of the crypto market? I always laugh when I see people still talking about long term hodl when the reality is staring us in the face. Don't be a fool, only the smart are leading the race in the crypto sphere of today. Why do you decide to hodl when you know that the price may dump? Why not sell at the peak and then you can buy back at the bottom. The race is not to the fool but to the wise. Selling at the peak and buying back at bottom is wisdom but holding at the peak expecting a magic spike is foolishness. Bull run is not here yet, do not expect a magic spike. When the bull run is here, you don't need a prophet to tell you that. Be smart.
Shows how dumb you are. Sell at the peak? Do you really know what the "peak" price might be? What if you sold thinking that the price has "peaked" but then you see that the price is still increasing. You have lost your opportunity to make some good profit. What if the price no longer dumps or goes lower that your assumed "peak" price? You will never get the chance to buy back at lower price.
Holding for long term is a joke? Compare the last 6/7 years price (this is long term) and then see it for yourself.
Holding is not actually a joke for everyone especially at a time like this, we all know that the nature of cryptocurrency is its volatility, meaning the value or prices are changing time by time, so it is hard to predict when cryptocurrency are going to pump or dump, long term holding is somehow good but it takes time, it actually a token that is not good in value as of now but in the future let us say that it is gonna pump. As a trader, we are buying a token in a low price and holding it until the price is risen up, so if it is not rising as of now we are holding it until that happens.
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November 26, 2019, 02:19:13 PM
Why do you refuse to face the reality of the present state of the crypto market? I always laugh when I see people still talking about long term hodl when the reality is staring us in the face. Don't be a fool, only the smart are leading the race in the crypto sphere of today. Why do you decide to hodl when you know that the price may dump? Why not sell at the peak and then you can buy back at the bottom. The race is not to the fool but to the wise. Selling at the peak and buying back at bottom is wisdom but holding at the peak expecting a magic spike is foolishness. Bull run is not here yet, do not expect a magic spike. When the bull run is here, you don't need a prophet to tell you that. Be smart.
Shows how dumb you are. Sell at the peak? Do you really know what the "peak" price might be? What if you sold thinking that the price has "peaked" but then you see that the price is still increasing. You have lost your opportunity to make some good profit. What if the price no longer dumps or goes lower that your assumed "peak" price? You will never get the chance to buy back at lower price.
Holding for long term is a joke? Compare the last 6/7 years price (this is long term) and then see it for yourself.
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November 26, 2019, 01:27:11 PM
Why do you refuse to face the reality of the present state of the crypto market? I always laugh when I see people still talking about long term hodl when the reality is staring us in the face. Don't be a fool, only the smart are leading the race in the crypto sphere of today. Why do you decide to hodl when you know that the price may dump? Why not sell at the peak and then you can buy back at the bottom. The race is not to the fool but to the wise. Selling at the peak and buying back at bottom is wisdom but holding at the peak expecting a magic spike is foolishness. Bull run is not here yet, do not expect a magic spike. When the bull run is here, you don't need a prophet to tell you that. Be smart.

Sure, we need to be smart and wise. Also we shoud have a cold had - and that is the key, for mi opinion. But if you are a long term investor with distance for a few years - better is hold and dont worry. We will see BTC 30K. Maybe year needed, maybe two, Maybe by the end of this year or tomorrow.
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November 26, 2019, 01:17:30 PM
Long term hodl is ok but you don't understand the concept OP. Long term hodl after you bought at highs is always a bad choice but long term hodl in a bear market is good. If a currency lost 80% of its ath value there's small chance that it will go lowe.

Even if it does it's going to be another 10% or so but there's high chance of a bounce to 40% of ATH or even going back to retest ATH.

You buy and hodl a shitcoin = you lose every time even in a bear market.
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November 26, 2019, 12:57:40 PM
i cant control myself reading this. i was laughing out loud for Godsake. honestly, you have your point but you shoud also consider that some of us here are not short traders that monitor the markets everyday. also you know that it is not save to keep tokens on exchange due Hackers. My opinion is whatever works for anybody is okay for him. i have watch tokens went for 100 usd worth to zeros and penny and i have also watch some coins moved from zero to values. it depends.
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November 26, 2019, 12:49:42 PM
This method is suitable only for experienced traders who know when to sell at the peak and buy at the bottom, unfortunately most people do not know where the peak or bottom is, because of this they adhere to the BUY&HOLD strategy.

Exactly! crypto trading is a bit new for most of us here which is why some have chosen to hold the coin and wait for their target price. There is no problem in long-term holding as long as the coin has potential because the market will eventually evolve in the next coming years and a lot of things will happen during the process, its either positive or negative.
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November 26, 2019, 11:45:52 AM
Why do you refuse to face the reality of the present state of the crypto market? I always laugh when I see people still talking about long term hodl when the reality is staring us in the face. Don't be a fool, only the smart are leading the race in the crypto sphere of today. Why do you decide to hodl when you know that the price may dump? Why not sell at the peak and then you can buy back at the bottom. The race is not to the fool but to the wise. Selling at the peak and buying back at bottom is wisdom but holding at the peak expecting a magic spike is foolishness. Bull run is not here yet, do not expect a magic spike. When the bull run is here, you don't need a prophet to tell you that. Be smart.
This method is suitable only for experienced traders who know when to sell at the peak and buy at the bottom, unfortunately most people do not know where the peak or bottom is, because of this they adhere to the BUY&HOLD strategy.
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November 26, 2019, 11:35:40 AM
Long term holding still work but only for a very few coins and if one is lucky to hold any of them, you will surely smile. I have of a coin that has done x72 this year even with the current market situation and those holding the coin since the beginning of this year are now in real money.
Right, the point is that we have to know what to hold in the long run, not just coins or tokens, but must really have a sale value wherever and whenever, because changing market conditions really require everyone to use good analysis before holding a coin or token.
Long term hodl is not a sense thing again consider about when you can make a few bucks at the same time and then you waste all of your chance for that to bet on the long term hodl but when there was a bearish trend like what already happened with bitcoin yesterday and then you are getting more and more lost. That means long term investment is not a good choice again. Try to make the decision based on the market and trend.
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November 26, 2019, 11:28:00 AM
Why do you refuse to face the reality of the present state of the crypto market? I always laugh when I see people still talking about long term hodl when the reality is staring us in the face. Don't be a fool, only the smart are leading the race in the crypto sphere of today. Why do you decide to hodl when you know that the price may dump? Why not sell at the peak and then you can buy back at the bottom. The race is not to the fool but to the wise. Selling at the peak and buying back at bottom is wisdom but holding at the peak expecting a magic spike is foolishness. Bull run is not here yet, do not expect a magic spike. When the bull run is here, you don't need a prophet to tell you that. Be smart.

Your post is based on one angle, you are actually looking at it from an angle where the trader buys at the pick, not from angle where the trader but at the bottom and hodls in wait for a spike in price. Long term trade/hodl in this case has to do with patience and it pays a lot when you are right on the choice of coins you choose hold. I hope you can correct your thought about long term hodl as been a joke
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November 26, 2019, 11:21:14 AM
I think buy at dip, sell at peak, in reality not all people can do it. And what i think is hold or trading regularly, we must respect and if they lose it is not bother us. Although i think hold altcoins for very long time not really good, but if we talk about bitcoin, there is a chance people who only hold can get high profit as long they are be patient.
What did you do when you bought at the top of $ 3,000 and now it's only $ 3 Cheesy

Long term hodl sometimes is not intended as an intention, but because it is trapped in a forced condition. For bitcoin I agree, there is only less interesting experience about altcoin before.
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November 26, 2019, 11:06:25 AM
I think buy at dip, sell at peak, in reality not all people can do it. And what i think is hold or trading regularly, we must respect and if they lose it is not bother us. Although i think hold altcoins for very long time not really good, but if we talk about bitcoin, there is a chance people who only hold can get high profit as long they are be patient.
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November 26, 2019, 10:58:56 AM
Well.. it is a good strategy to sell your coins at their peak and then buy them back when the prices are low. But the problem with cryptocurrencies is that we never know which levels are peaks and which ones are low. But I agree that it is not viable to hold any of the altcoins for the long term. Unlike the case with Bitcoin, there is no guarantee that these coins will survive for the next 5 to 10 years.
That's why we need to set our own peak and down, but sometimes we prefer to change it anytime since the market is too volatile to predict. I remember one holiday before that I set a goal to sell it since the price is somehow lowering until  all that I do is just to hold it since I keep changing my mind. Next time I'll try to do what I really plan and see if I will be able to do it.
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November 26, 2019, 10:57:50 AM
The strategy that you should do is depend on what you can do and the strategy that fit in your emotions and skills. You can hold do hold but first you should know the risks. I am a trend follower so I will only hold a coin if the trend is bull and not bear.
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November 26, 2019, 10:54:19 AM
Why do you refuse to face the reality of the present state of the crypto market? I always laugh when I see people still talking about long term hodl when the reality is staring us in the face. Don't be a fool, only the smart are leading the race in the crypto sphere of today. Why do you decide to hodl when you know that the price may dump? Why not sell at the peak and then you can buy back at the bottom. The race is not to the fool but to the wise. Selling at the peak and buying back at bottom is wisdom but holding at the peak expecting a magic spike is foolishness. Bull run is not here yet, do not expect a magic spike. When the bull run is here, you don't need a prophet to tell you that. Be smart.
Because it is the only appropriate strategy to these trends actually. Price may dump anytime, and I'll consider buying more from that when I got more from my savings. It will be a heck of a wall for the portfolio I built already. I had already thought of selling at so-called "peak", but I don't think that all these prices were already "peak" for me from the time I first bought crypto. It could be a greedy hodling, but it isn't really in reality.
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November 26, 2019, 10:42:34 AM
Why do you refuse to face the reality of the present state of the crypto market? I always laugh when I see people still talking about long term hodl when the reality is staring us in the face. Don't be a fool, only the smart are leading the race in the crypto sphere of today. Why do you decide to hodl when you know that the price may dump? Why not sell at the peak and then you can buy back at the bottom. The race is not to the fool but to the wise. Selling at the peak and buying back at bottom is wisdom but holding at the peak expecting a magic spike is foolishness. Bull run is not here yet, do not expect a magic spike. When the bull run is here, you don't need a prophet to tell you that. Be smart.
The situation at this moment is indeed frustrating but do you think selling and winning at this point would aid the problem? We have no choice but to hold as investors and bounty hunters. Some coins won't be sold at this time because their prices are close to zero so GAS money would be bigger resulting to no profit at all but just a waste of time. Be patient for a little longer because that's the only thing we can do.
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November 26, 2019, 09:54:45 AM
try to understand first the movement of crypto, I bought a bitcoin price of $ 8400 and now falls $ 7100 I still remain calm because I know that bitcoin and other crypto are new technologies will be developed in the future.
see the history of bitcoin friend once every 3 years the price goes up to 10x more so it remains HOLD !!!
Even you already suffer from big losses because of the drop price it is good that you remain calm and still holding your bitcoin. The movement of cryptocurrency in the market is very unpredictable and even you always monitor still in just a few seconds you can lose or earn big amount of money. I hope you are right about every 3 years the price of bitcoin will go up so we just need to wait until 2020 and watch if bitcoin will gonna go up to 10x. Long term holding is not a joke because once the price goes up to the moon you will totally celebrate and maybe you will say to yourself that you really make a good decision in your life.
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November 26, 2019, 09:23:18 AM
Let's take the next situation, let say you buy 100 bitcoin then price for 1 bitcoin was 5 usd and hold until now and sell now, you make a good profit isn't it? Or let say you buy 100 Eth when pirce for 1 Ethereum was 9 usd and sell now, you still make profit or no?
Ofcourse you will have profit on that explanation,

But the reality today is that the market is not the same as the years 2013, 2015 and 2016. Unlike those days crypto was not really known to many people around the world. The situation is different now that many have gained interest in the crypto currency and are making it a money making machine because of their successful creation of fud, and manipulation of prices.
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