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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on September 20, 2024, 12:42:21 PM

Quote from: Dewi Aries on September 20, 2024, 10:56:11 AM

And regarding sports betting, yes, skill can affect the results of the game, but I will say that it does not mean that by betting on your favorite team you will continue to win, the chances of winning in sports are determined by who is stronger and not who your favorite team is, in the end the best is like you said that we must always use the minimum amount in every bet regardless of the type of game.

Even now in sports betting we must be very responsible when putting an amount of money willing to lose, because even though it is very probable that things will happen thanks to our analysis, the possibility of losing is there and I think it will be at 50% if we are quite fair, it is not the same to play in a slot or roulette than to make a prediction in a sporting event, sometimes luck in sports betting is more difficult to occur, that is why we must take care of our money in the same way.

I got the gist but for someone to have a 50% winning chance in sports betting, such a person must have his analysis top-notched to the point that he didn't leave any chance to faults, or else, the chance would reduce drastically in favour of the reliance on luck regardless of whether luck was supposed to be 50% to be fair.

In fairness, luck should be taken seriously in gambling especially if it is the casino bets, you can't just beat the system, so one has to admit that anything can happen which is more reason for the preparedness for the proper management if things go south. There should be management in terms of money and also in terms of risks before we can ever be termed a responsible gambler who knows what he is doing and gambling can never badly affect such a person.

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Quote from: Dewi Aries on September 20, 2024, 10:56:11 AM

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Quote from: Odusko on September 19, 2024, 01:30:41 PM

Regardless of how less you gamble, the loses is still way higher than the winning and this out you at a constant limit, most times we have to evaluate what we make our for how much we gamble and how many we win or lose, because some gambler's believe because they gamble with less amount they loses ratio has decreased, this is not so and in most cases some of the cryptocurrency gambler's if you combine all your total loses vs the winning, you will still see that you lose more than you lose.

We lose more than how we win and when a gambler knows this, he is not going to be angry when he loses but he can keep trying and one day he is going to win, provided he does not use staking amounts that is going to make him to lose all his capital too fast. Long term profitable strategy will help in maintaining a balance between how you lose and how you win. Since we were going to lose more than we can win, we do not have to be over staking and maintaining a minimum wager so you can make use of your gambling capital for a very long amount of time before it gets exhausted. Playing sport betting, you can always bet on the favourite teams to win and you will be winning for a long time although you would not be capable of winning life changing money but you would not be losing your money.

Yes but in most cases the majority of gamblers are not aware of it, they are not aware that no matter what and until whenever the dealer will always be superior to the gamblers which is a reason why gamblers experience more defeats than wins especially in types of casino games that are random. I think I can't be sure that by doing more trials it will be able to get you closer to victory, in the end the results of the game are still unknown, and even though for example after you have tried several times and you finally win then you can count the total number of defeats that you have gone through where usually the number of victories cannot cover the number of defeats that you have experienced.

And regarding sports betting, yes, skill can affect the results of the game, but I will say that it does not mean that by betting on your favorite team you will continue to win, the chances of winning in sports are determined by who is stronger and not who your favorite team is, in the end the best is like you said that we must always use the minimum amount in every bet regardless of the type of game.

Yeah skill also determines the outcome of sports betting but luck is more of the determining factor so if a gambler is opportune to win by simply gambling on favourite teams especially those big teams in their respective leagues, it can't guarantee accurate predictions all the time because they can also fail at times so we should always gamble with what we can afford to lose and not use because we feel that since they are our favourite clubs that the chances of winning is sure.

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When I think about playing long term, you know something very logical , those players who do it have a tendency to lose , there is no other way , I am a player , but you could say that I have always played but I vary my games and I always do different game sessions where Basically it is always with Controlled money or with an idea of being willing to lose , that is the main thing, I think that taking that into consideration things are always better , the more control the better , of course it is my strategy, everyone has their own style and way of playing.

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Quote from: Onyeeze on September 20, 2024, 01:15:03 PM

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Quote from: Odusko on September 19, 2024, 01:30:41 PM

Regardless of how less you gamble, the loses is still way higher than the winning and this out you at a constant limit, most times we have to evaluate what we make our for how much we gamble and how many we win or lose, because some gambler's believe because they gamble with less amount they loses ratio has decreased, this is not so and in most cases some of the cryptocurrency gambler's if you combine all your total loses vs the winning, you will still see that you lose more than you lose.

We lose more than how we win and when a gambler knows this, he is not going to be angry when he loses but he can keep trying and one day he is going to win, provided he does not use staking amounts that is going to make him to lose all his capital too fast. Long term profitable strategy will help in maintaining a balance between how you lose and how you win. Since we were going to lose more than we can win, we do not have to be over staking and maintaining a minimum wager so you can make use of your gambling capital for a very long amount of time before it gets exhausted. Playing sport betting, you can always bet on the favourite teams to win and you will be winning for a long time although you would not be capable of winning life changing money but you would not be losing your money.

It's not that gamblers doesn't know such, but gamblers always try their luck in order to make win, anyone who is in gambling knows that wining in gambling is 50/50 and losing in gambling is also 50/50, and anyone who says that he or she doesn't know such I think that person is a newbie in gambling, that's why I do tell anyone that's close to me that gambling doesn't have assurance and if you are partaking in gambling you should make sure that you stake with what you can afford to lose, else you will be hurt when you loses in the gambling, its clear that using your saves to partake in the gambling should be as form of ignorant, at most if you want to gamble and when you lose it will not affect you that much, just use your spare cash or funds.

That would really be the most important thing on here is on to make use of the spare amount that you do have and never ever tend to spend out too much on the moment or time that you do gamble.
The most important thing on here is on how you would really be that able to have that kind of control on which we know that this is really that important. When it comes to strategies
then it will really be just that depending on you that you should really be that wary that its not really that giving out that sure thing. This is why it would really be that important
that you should be knowing on what you are really that dealing with. You are the ones who would really be making up such decision and make it sure that it wont affect you out negatively.

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Quote from: $weetne$$ on September 19, 2024, 05:25:13 PM

Quote from: Odusko on September 19, 2024, 01:30:41 PM

Regardless of how less you gamble, the loses is still way higher than the winning and this out you at a constant limit, most times we have to evaluate what we make our for how much we gamble and how many we win or lose, because some gambler's believe because they gamble with less amount they loses ratio has decreased, this is not so and in most cases some of the cryptocurrency gambler's if you combine all your total loses vs the winning, you will still see that you lose more than you lose.

We lose more than how we win and when a gambler knows this, he is not going to be angry when he loses but he can keep trying and one day he is going to win, provided he does not use staking amounts that is going to make him to lose all his capital too fast. Long term profitable strategy will help in maintaining a balance between how you lose and how you win. Since we were going to lose more than we can win, we do not have to be over staking and maintaining a minimum wager so you can make use of your gambling capital for a very long amount of time before it gets exhausted. Playing sport betting, you can always bet on the favourite teams to win and you will be winning for a long time although you would not be capable of winning life changing money but you would not be losing your money.

It's not that gamblers doesn't know such, but gamblers always try their luck in order to make win, anyone who is in gambling knows that wining in gambling is 50/50 and losing in gambling is also 50/50, and anyone who says that he or she doesn't know such I think that person is a newbie in gambling, that's why I do tell anyone that's close to me that gambling doesn't have assurance and if you are partaking in gambling you should make sure that you stake with what you can afford to lose, else you will be hurt when you loses in the gambling, its clear that using your saves to partake in the gambling should be as form of ignorant, at most if you want to gamble and when you lose it will not affect you that much, just use your spare cash or funds.

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Quote from: Dewi Aries on September 20, 2024, 10:56:11 AM

And regarding sports betting, yes, skill can affect the results of the game, but I will say that it does not mean that by betting on your favorite team you will continue to win, the chances of winning in sports are determined by who is stronger and not who your favorite team is, in the end the best is like you said that we must always use the minimum amount in every bet regardless of the type of game.

Even now in sports betting we must be very responsible when putting an amount of money willing to lose, because even though it is very probable that things will happen thanks to our analysis, the possibility of losing is there and I think it will be at 50% if we are quite fair, it is not the same to play in a slot or roulette than to make a prediction in a sporting event, sometimes luck in sports betting is more difficult to occur, that is why we must take care of our money in the same way.

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another one is, leave while you are in profit
if you lose too many in a row STOP instead of betting more
never risk more than you have

can you think of anything else?

But still there’s an underlying problem on this strategy. What exact amount of profit we will leave the casino? Determining the “enough profit” is always subjective on every gambler which is also the common reason why they failed to take profit when they have already the opportunity since greediness always hinder this idea to every player and keep gambling while they still have bankroll.

In general, There’s no strategy to attain profitable strategy due to house edge of the games but your suggestion is good to minimize the risk of losing if done properly.

this will vary a lot from person to person
it's hard because gamblers are usually guilty of wanting too much

there's this song by erosops I like that says:
"some people lose their faith because they have chosen too little
and some people lose their faith because they have chosen too much"

I think it is a little bit like that

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Quote from: $weetne$$ on September 19, 2024, 05:25:13 PM

Quote from: Odusko on September 19, 2024, 01:30:41 PM

Regardless of how less you gamble, the loses is still way higher than the winning and this out you at a constant limit, most times we have to evaluate what we make our for how much we gamble and how many we win or lose, because some gambler's believe because they gamble with less amount they loses ratio has decreased, this is not so and in most cases some of the cryptocurrency gambler's if you combine all your total loses vs the winning, you will still see that you lose more than you lose.

We lose more than how we win and when a gambler knows this, he is not going to be angry when he loses but he can keep trying and one day he is going to win, provided he does not use staking amounts that is going to make him to lose all his capital too fast. Long term profitable strategy will help in maintaining a balance between how you lose and how you win. Since we were going to lose more than we can win, we do not have to be over staking and maintaining a minimum wager so you can make use of your gambling capital for a very long amount of time before it gets exhausted. Playing sport betting, you can always bet on the favourite teams to win and you will be winning for a long time although you would not be capable of winning life changing money but you would not be losing your money.

Yes but in most cases the majority of gamblers are not aware of it, they are not aware that no matter what and until whenever the dealer will always be superior to the gamblers which is a reason why gamblers experience more defeats than wins especially in types of casino games that are random. I think I can't be sure that by doing more trials it will be able to get you closer to victory, in the end the results of the game are still unknown, and even though for example after you have tried several times and you finally win then you can count the total number of defeats that you have gone through where usually the number of victories cannot cover the number of defeats that you have experienced.

And regarding sports betting, yes, skill can affect the results of the game, but I will say that it does not mean that by betting on your favorite team you will continue to win, the chances of winning in sports are determined by who is stronger and not who your favorite team is, in the end the best is like you said that we must always use the minimum amount in every bet regardless of the type of game.

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Quote from: Dunamisx on September 19, 2024, 05:21:16 PM

I don't think there is a particular strategy on the long run which we can use in gambling in other to make it profitable, we have to consider that we are using our money to gamble because we can afford to, we are also gambling because we wanted to have fun by not minding on the cost, we are chasing after loss in gambling, if we gamble for a longer period of time, we get the required satisfaction needed and this alone is another profitable achievement in it.

If involvement in responsible gambling is possible and can certainly be carried out, but when faced with someone who is addicted, it will be difficult. I see how poker games become a much more rational gambling where when people play it takes skill to recognize. But in the long term aspect, any strategy cannot necessarily be applied successfully because we know that there will be times when people experience defeat in gambling.

Talking about satisfaction is difficult for us to get in gambling because almost many people who gamble will never feel satisfied. To avoid consecutive defeats, this is where the ability to control and know when to stop when it is not profitable in gambling is needed.

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Quote from: Odusko on September 19, 2024, 01:30:41 PM

Regardless of how less you gamble, the loses is still way higher than the winning and this out you at a constant limit, most times we have to evaluate what we make our for how much we gamble and how many we win or lose, because some gambler's believe because they gamble with less amount they loses ratio has decreased, this is not so and in most cases some of the cryptocurrency gambler's if you combine all your total loses vs the winning, you will still see that you lose more than you lose.

We lose more than how we win and when a gambler knows this, he is not going to be angry when he loses but he can keep trying and one day he is going to win, provided he does not use staking amounts that is going to make him to lose all his capital too fast. Long term profitable strategy will help in maintaining a balance between how you lose and how you win. Since we were going to lose more than we can win, we do not have to be over staking and maintaining a minimum wager so you can make use of your gambling capital for a very long amount of time before it gets exhausted. Playing sport betting, you can always bet on the favourite teams to win and you will be winning for a long time although you would not be capable of winning life changing money but you would not be losing your money.

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Quote from: Orpichukwu on September 19, 2024, 05:12:34 PM

Quote from: Odusko on September 19, 2024, 01:30:41 PM

Regardless of how less you gamble, the loses is still way higher than than the winning and this out you at a constant limit, most times we have to evaluate what we make our for how much we gamble and how many we win or lose, because some gambler's believe because they gamble with less amount they loses ratio has decreased, this is not so and in most cases some of the cryptocurrency gambler's if you combine all your total loses vs the winning, you will still see that you lose more than you lose.

I completely understand the point that you are making, but if the person is not a regular gambler, like they don't gamble always but just seasonal, which they can't even boast of gambling twice every month, there is a possibility of such gamblers being hit by luck and they will make a big win, and what they have spent in gambling isn't even up to 20% of that winning. I know it's a rare occurrence, but it does happen; not all have spent above what they win.

Yeah there are folks like that , that hardly ganbles they usually gamble once in a while just to while away time most time . And if such gambler usually using a little percentage of his money to gamble as a form of risk management he or she will be able to avoid more losses or reduce the chances of the. Losing much.

Most time is only those that do gamble on a regular basis that will endup seeing that their little losses that they have been making over time as turn to something else ( huge amount of losses). Because of the constant losing and stuff. While they are some that can lose all their funds in one game those that usually go all in with their hard earn funds and endup regretting their actions all in the name they want to get rich quick through gambling.

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I don't think there is a particular strategy on the long run which we can use in gambling in other to make it profitable, we have to consider that we are using our money to gamble because we can afford to, we are also gambling because we wanted to have fun by not minding on the cost, we are chasing after loss in gambling, if we gamble for a longer period of time, we get the required satisfaction needed and this alone is another profitable achievement in it.

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Quote from: Julien_Olynpic on January 10, 2024, 02:04:09 AM

Let's discuss long-term profitable gambling strategies, as well as the elements of such strategies. It is not even necessary to back it up with winning statistics (although no one will mind). It is enough to write that “I think that this strategy is profitable in such and such a game or in such and such a form of gambling.”
Elements of profitable strategies are also quite interesting for discussion. I know that for long-term profitability, risk management is of course much more important. However, what is equally important is what leads to profit in addition to risk management.
If your profitable strategy is of a proprietary nature, if it is secret and you do not want to write about it, then you can limit yourself to general reasoning. I think that this discussion will be useful for everyone and perhaps it will prompt some of their own promising ideas.

Gambling has it's ups and downs but to some it's always on the downside for them and one reason is the time they are putting into it, you can't hope to benefit from gambling when you are constantly engaged in it. Some gamblers try to push their luck everyday because they strongly believe that their sin might be around the corner, some also think they have a profitable strategy that can work constantly because they tried it once or two times and it worked. There are no long term profitable strategies don't be deceived by anyone

obviously gambling is like of game of trial, which supposed to ring in the mind of any gambler, because when you put your hopes in gambling it assumed that you predict gambling accurately, but we all have known that once you are desperate in gambling to win it maybe the time you will lose, so for me theirs no assurance that any time you partake in the gambling you will make out with something positive, let clear this statement from my views, theirs no body in gambling that have a profitable strategy to win in gambling almost evertime, in gambling someone whom you think that is wizard in gambling prediction do get disappointed, so can't think that as you predict gambling first and second time and win that's how it will continue, that's false from my understanding, what make people to win in the gambling is just luck not by much experience.

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Quote from: Odusko on September 19, 2024, 01:30:41 PM

Regardless of how less you gamble, the loses is still way higher than than the winning and this out you at a constant limit, most times we have to evaluate what we make our for how much we gamble and how many we win or lose, because some gambler's believe because they gamble with less amount they loses ratio has decreased, this is not so and in most cases some of the cryptocurrency gambler's if you combine all your total loses vs the winning, you will still see that you lose more than you lose.

I completely understand the point that you are making, but if the person is not a regular gambler, like they don't gamble always but just seasonal, which they can't even boast of gambling twice every month, there is a possibility of such gamblers being hit by luck and they will make a big win, and what they have spent in gambling isn't even up to 20% of that winning. I know it's a rare occurrence, but it does happen; not all have spent above what they win.

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Quote from: peter0425 on September 19, 2024, 04:52:44 PM

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Yeah, that's pretty much what I am doing right now. I love the sports that I am betting and it doesn't hurt me whenever I lose. Of course I do feel a bit of it but I mean that there's no regret if I analyze and felt that I did the wrong bet. I just enjoyed it anyway and tries to recover in the other bets that I commit.

I have never used money that I will regret losing while gambling so in that regard I do relate. I think I am more sad that my favorite teams/players are not the ones winning haha. I don’t bet on them because I know the chances but there’s still some hope that maybe they can win.

I feel you mate. That's how it goes aside from just losing our money betting on our favorite teams and players, when they lose it feels that we're the ones that actually lost more than them. That's what I have been doing even if the odds are in favor or not of them, it also varies as per my emotion and mood at the time of betting.

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Having a winning streak for me is making me feel good but it's hard to accomplish that to be honest.

I wonder what effects does not having a winning streak have on someone. It makes you lose confidence for sure and makes you a bit more hesitant than usual. It’s nerve wracking honestly but we just need to have fun and enjoy the sports at the same time.

It's not making me lose my confidence but it's truly disappointing that when I am losing. It's true that it makes me hesitant to bet again to those teams and players that I have trusted with my bet so, it's just a casual feeling when I don't have that winning streak and I'm not really expecting it to come to me at most times. Maybe 2 straight wins for the day or two is already fine but it doesn't matter to me regardless of how my outcomes are as long as I've got some Ws during the week.

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Quote from: madnessteat on September 19, 2024, 05:06:05 AM

In my understanding the strategy in gambling is not to beat the casino, but to play as many rounds as possible after funding the casino account. None of the gamblers do not know who and when will be lucky and each additional round can be lucky for us. At least when I play gambling I strive to increase the rounds but with the condition that the rate will not be too low to the risk/reward ratio to give significant emotions.

This is a smart strategy but it literally leads to a guaranteed loss. Any kind of martingale (with the right choice of the initial bet size) can stretch your gaming session for a long time. I see one reason for stretching the gaming session: if there is a jackpot in the game and the longer you play the more likely you are to get it. But if you take dice for example, then in order to qualify for the jackpot your bet should not be miserable.

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Quote from: passwordnow on September 19, 2024, 04:38:43 PM

Yeah, that's pretty much what I am doing right now. I love the sports that I am betting and it doesn't hurt me whenever I lose. Of course I do feel a bit of it but I mean that there's no regret if I analyze and felt that I did the wrong bet. I just enjoyed it anyway and tries to recover in the other bets that I commit.

I have never used money that I will regret losing while gambling so in that regard I do relate. I think I am more sad that my favorite teams/players are not the ones winning haha. I don’t bet on them because I know the chances but there’s still some hope that maybe they can win.

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Having a winning streak for me is making me feel good but it's hard to accomplish that to be honest.

I wonder what effects does not having a winning streak have on someone. It makes you lose confidence for sure and makes you a bit more hesitant than usual. It’s nerve wracking honestly but we just need to have fun and enjoy the sports at the same time.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on September 19, 2024, 12:58:03 AM

Quote from: passwordnow on September 18, 2024, 06:29:30 PM

I'm not sure if I'd be long term doing sports betting because the two results that I am having at most times are, losing, break-even and just some few wins. I think with having 5%-10% of returns from my wagers is already a good profit and this isn't an amount that I have to stress myself. Losing many of my bets with that much money that I have but then if I recover with a few profits from the few bets that I'll make then that will serve my satisfaction. It could be a long term acceptance for me with that very few percentage of profit. Thus, I don't rely on gambling for my source of income.

My thought here is that, if I make and lose some and I am not in total loss that would not make me disappointed at all. Any lose that I make is already enough to cover the enjoyment that I am having as it has become my hobby and part of my routine to place some bets and not expecting a lot in return.

I think as long as you love sports and are still here then you will continue to bet on sports, indeed the percentage of profit is very small but as you have said that making all bets gives pleasure and satisfaction, consider defeat as payment for the pleasure obtained.
It is very rare to really be able to produce winning streak in the long term, there will always be defeats and percentage of failure from every bet made so my advice is not to really rely on the profit from bet.

I always bet every week and that is bet on several different competitions, if calculate the profit then I don't really get profit from all the bets in one week, but one thing I get is the pleasure and satisfaction that can't be found anywhere else.

Yeah, that's pretty much what I am doing right now. I love the sports that I am betting and it doesn't hurt me whenever I lose. Of course I do feel a bit of it but I mean that there's no regret if I analyze and felt that I did the wrong bet. I just enjoyed it anyway and tries to recover in the other bets that I commit. Having a winning streak for me is making me feel good but it's hard to accomplish that to be honest.

You'll have hard time realizing it that you'll need to take time once again for you to have it. Be it with sports betting or casino games, that comes once in a blue moon but when it does, you'd feel like that you're the luckiest person alive. We've got some low ways of having fun and making ourselves happy and that's through it. Just as you, I also do bet maybe not everyday, sometimes I do, depending on the circumstances but when I do, I make sure that I'd enjoy it.

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Quote from: Jaycoinz on September 19, 2024, 03:26:17 PM

Gambling has it's ups and downs but to some it's always on the downside for them and one reason is the time they are putting into it, you can't hope to benefit from gambling when you are constantly engaged in it. Some gamblers try to push their luck everyday because they strongly believe that their sin might be around the corner, some also think they have a profitable strategy that can work constantly because they tried it once or two times and it worked. There are no long term profitable strategies don't be deceived by anyone

The only strategy I know to work on long run is to only play with money you can afford to lose, and that is a strategy to just decrease potential losses, anyway. Everything else is just bullshit from internet influencers trying to boost their views to generate profit through traffic. Gamblers must be aware about it, otherwise they will be constantly losing considerable sums of money which they will need later to pay for their expenses.

In worst cases, gamblers borrow money to gamble, expecting to recover it through betting. I watched news recently which brought some gamblers complaining about their losses. One of them lost the wife, as she divorced from him due to his gambling addiction. Another lost his patrimony and accumulated huge debt which must be paid to family members.

I think what all these people had in common was the belief they could make profit from gambling on long run, probably because they were told so by advertisements and of course, due to their personal short term experience with gambling, which tends to be profitable at the beginning. Proper education and awareness are the key.

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Quote from: Julien_Olynpic on January 10, 2024, 02:04:09 AM

Let's discuss long-term profitable gambling strategies, as well as the elements of such strategies. It is not even necessary to back it up with winning statistics (although no one will mind). It is enough to write that “I think that this strategy is profitable in such and such a game or in such and such a form of gambling.”
Elements of profitable strategies are also quite interesting for discussion. I know that for long-term profitability, risk management is of course much more important. However, what is equally important is what leads to profit in addition to risk management.
If your profitable strategy is of a proprietary nature, if it is secret and you do not want to write about it, then you can limit yourself to general reasoning. I think that this discussion will be useful for everyone and perhaps it will prompt some of their own promising ideas.

Gambling has it's ups and downs but to some it's always on the downside for them and one reason is the time they are putting into it, you can't hope to benefit from gambling when you are constantly engaged in it. Some gamblers try to push their luck everyday because they strongly believe that their sin might be around the corner, some also think they have a profitable strategy that can work constantly because they tried it once or two times and it worked. There are no long term profitable strategies don't be deceived by anyone

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