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Quote from: nkocevar on July 02, 2014, 09:34:30 AM

Quote from: Justin00 on July 02, 2014, 03:25:10 AM

you guys are looking to invest in, ummm....... what exactly ?

The company that will take 5 hour energy out of business, or so I think Wink

Thats an energy drink, right? So, what is your plan? Caffeinated chewing gum, or something? I'm just wondering how this is related to Bitcoin. Why not just ask for a bank loan?

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Quote from: nkocevar on June 02, 2014, 02:52:18 PM

Quote from: byt411 on June 02, 2014, 02:42:26 PM

Why can't you publicly reveal the details here?
Also, no information at all probably won't get you any fundings.

Because the idea is one that is easily replicable, but genius in itself.

The NDA and secrecy issue doesn't concern me as much as this statement does. You may be able to stop other people from beating you to market, but you can't stop them from coming in once you've launched. If your idea can be easily replicated, what's to stop established players in the industry from copying your idea and providing it to the market? This is competition that probably has more resources at their disposal. Even if you get your idea out there first, will you be able to hold on to your market share after the competition starts moving in on what you've introduced?

Don't get me wrong: I'm not trying to be critical. If I am, I mean it as constructive criticism. Make sure you have a plan in place to differentiate yourself from your competition. Do whatever you can to protect your idea from copycats that can reach a larger audience than you (or worse, steal your own audience before you really take off). If this can't be done, you'll have a hard time finding an investor. Good luck!

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come on.. tell us the idea.. we all promise not to steal it.
or tell me and I promise I won't steal it.. I can then report back if its a good idea or not...

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Quote from: Justin00 on July 19, 2014, 11:27:24 AM

Not off to a good start yet then...
perhaps you should start off with something that can earn you trust.

I think people might be concerned you are putting in $300 while you want $20k.
If it was such a brilliant idea that would earn like $3-500k in such a small time frame..like you said, you would be getting money from family and friends.. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying its not a brilliant idea, in fact i'm not saying anything because we don't know what the idea is Sad

But yeah you haven't really done anything for people to trust you.... plus alot of people are quite worried about giving photo ID and rightly so... I won't give people idea's on what they could do, but photo ID can be quite valuable to people who want it for things of a devious nature.

Does the business plan have anything to do with mining ?

Quote from: nkocevar on July 19, 2014, 11:06:34 AM

Quote from: Justin00 on July 19, 2014, 11:05:15 AM

So all those who read the business plan, and signed the NDA...without violating the NDA... can you tell us, is this a good idea ? is the idea detailed etc etc ? I am kinda curious now heh..

OP also how do you enforce the NDA with randoms on the internet ? Do they have to supply photo ID when they sign the NDA or something ?

No one has actually read it yet. No one wants to verify the NDA with a photo ID because no one trusts me.

No its more of a tangible thing. An actual business that has nothing to do with bitcoin except that fact that it accepts it as payment

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Not off to a good start yet then...
perhaps you should start off with something that can earn you trust.

I think people might be concerned you are putting in $300 while you want $20k.
If it was such a brilliant idea that would earn like $3-500k in such a small time frame..like you said, you would be getting money from family and friends.. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying its not a brilliant idea, in fact i'm not saying anything because we don't know what the idea is Sad

But yeah you haven't really done anything for people to trust you.... plus alot of people are quite worried about giving photo ID and rightly so... I won't give people idea's on what they could do, but photo ID can be quite valuable to people who want it for things of a devious nature.

Does the business plan have anything to do with mining ?

Quote from: nkocevar on July 19, 2014, 11:06:34 AM

Quote from: Justin00 on July 19, 2014, 11:05:15 AM

So all those who read the business plan, and signed the NDA...without violating the NDA... can you tell us, is this a good idea ? is the idea detailed etc etc ? I am kinda curious now heh..

OP also how do you enforce the NDA with randoms on the internet ? Do they have to supply photo ID when they sign the NDA or something ?

No one has actually read it yet. No one wants to verify the NDA with a photo ID because no one trusts me.

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Quote from: Justin00 on July 19, 2014, 11:05:15 AM

So all those who read the business plan, and signed the NDA...without violating the NDA... can you tell us, is this a good idea ? is the idea detailed etc etc ? I am kinda curious now heh..

OP also how do you enforce the NDA with randoms on the internet ? Do they have to supply photo ID when they sign the NDA or something ?

No one has actually read it yet. No one wants to verify the NDA with a photo ID because no one trusts me.

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So all those who read the business plan, and signed the NDA...without violating the NDA... can you tell us, is this a good idea ? is the idea detailed etc etc ? I am kinda curious now heh..

OP also how do you enforce the NDA with randoms on the internet ? Do they have to supply photo ID when they sign the NDA or something ?

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Quote from: nkocevar on July 03, 2014, 10:57:07 AM

Quote from: Killerloop on July 03, 2014, 10:45:01 AM

Quote from: nkocevar on July 03, 2014, 10:40:47 AM

I am finished with the plan, but I am not willing to pay for you to get it notarized. If you have $20,000 to invest, then you have $20 to get it notarized. Hell it may be worth it if you can make $300,000 in dividends the first year.

So basically:

1) You ask for a NDA to protect your idea
2) You ask the LENDER to pay for a notarization of said NDA which, in fact, benefits only you.

Why should I pay from my own pocket to read something which may be well absolutely worthless? The idea is yours, you ask for something to protect it --> you pay your fees.

By asking the lender you look either like a time-waster or a scammer.

Who pays for a patent? The customer? Grin

Good point. Let me PM you.

Bump... scary that this has 666 reads

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Quote from: Killerloop on July 03, 2014, 10:45:01 AM

Quote from: nkocevar on July 03, 2014, 10:40:47 AM

I am finished with the plan, but I am not willing to pay for you to get it notarized. If you have $20,000 to invest, then you have $20 to get it notarized. Hell it may be worth it if you can make $300,000 in dividends the first year.

So basically:

1) You ask for a NDA to protect your idea
2) You ask the LENDER to pay for a notarization of said NDA which, in fact, benefits only you.

Why should I pay from my own pocket to read something which may be well absolutely worthless? The idea is yours, you ask for something to protect it --> you pay your fees.

By asking the lender you look either like a time-waster or a scammer.

Who pays for a patent? The customer? Grin

Good point. Let me PM you.

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Quote from: nkocevar on July 03, 2014, 10:40:47 AM

I am finished with the plan, but I am not willing to pay for you to get it notarized. If you have $20,000 to invest, then you have $20 to get it notarized. Hell it may be worth it if you can make $300,000 in dividends the first year.

So basically:

1) You ask for a NDA to protect your idea
2) You ask the LENDER to pay for a notarization of said NDA which, in fact, benefits only you.

Why should I pay from my own pocket to read something which may be well absolutely worthless? The idea is yours, you ask for something to protect it --> you pay your fees.

By asking the lender you look either like a time-waster or a scammer.

Who pays for a patent? The customer? Grin

nkocevar

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Quote from: Killerloop on July 03, 2014, 10:38:07 AM

Quote from: nkocevar on July 02, 2014, 09:35:20 AM

I replied to your PM, although in order to see my plan you must sign an NDA (Non-Disclosure Agreement)

I did and I am still waiting for your supposed business plan.

I am finished with the plan, but I am not willing to pay for you to get it notarized. If you have $20,000 to invest, then you have $20 to get it notarized. Hell it may be worth it if you can make $300,000 in dividends the first year.

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Quote from: nkocevar on July 02, 2014, 09:35:20 AM

I replied to your PM, although in order to see my plan you must sign an NDA (Non-Disclosure Agreement)

I did and I am still waiting for your supposed business plan.

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Quote from: ranlo on June 22, 2014, 06:19:01 PM

Quote from: nwfella on June 22, 2014, 06:04:50 PM

Have a potential investor that also might be interested. Please PM whatever details you can if still available.

FWIW, he hasn't gotten back to me yet. Not sure if he's still looking.

I replied to your PM, although in order to see my plan you must sign an NDA (Non-Disclosure Agreement)

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Quote from: Justin00 on July 02, 2014, 03:25:10 AM

you guys are looking to invest in, ummm....... what exactly ?

The company that will take 5 hour energy out of business, or so I think Wink

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you guys are looking to invest in, ummm....... what exactly ?

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Quote from: nwfella on June 22, 2014, 06:04:50 PM

Have a potential investor that also might be interested. Please PM whatever details you can if still available.

FWIW, he hasn't gotten back to me yet. Not sure if he's still looking.

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Well hello there!

Have a potential investor that also might be interested. Please PM whatever details you can if still available.

ranlo

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I'm interested in this for sure. Toss me a PM with further information to check out, as well as your proposal in terms of x invested for y benefit.

Thanks.

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An NDA will not protect a unique idea in my experience. Consider getting a bank loan for something like this. If the forecasts are as high and credible as you've stated then there should be no issue.

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remind us what someone woul be investing in please ??
the secret thing has been done before... hmm actually sucessfully if i recall.
best of luck to you and your investors.

but yeah... give some info.. you might get some interested parties.

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