Thanks a lot
1) send me a link to the blockchain.info (or if alt equivleant address)
2) stake the signature somewhere
3) answer my questions via pm.
Topic: Looking for crypto rich for resarch. (Read 233 times)
Oh_no_stop_this
Either. A group would be amazing as it would give more data points, but even a single user would be helpful.
SFR10 I see the confusion I didn't mean sign a message on behalf of me, I meant "stake the address" I need all three parts the message text(decided by the signer) the bitcoin adress and the key to verify them. However even if Ipersuades soemone to sign a messgae saying I owned an account, literally anyone could simply ask the account holder to confirm by signing another message. I'd have to convinve them to keep signing whatever text anyone else gave them. The airdrop thing was interesting, I could see a scammer using that, all though I'm not sure what value signing an early adopter up to airdrop would do, you still wouldn't have their private key. I'm not sure what good pretening to own a crypto adess would do a scammer either, you can't send a transaction and signing a message "forum member x owns this address" still would not give a private key.
Either. A group would be amazing as it would give more data points, but even a single user would be helpful.
SFR10 I see the confusion I didn't mean sign a message on behalf of me, I meant "stake the address" I need all three parts the message text(decided by the signer) the bitcoin adress and the key to verify them. However even if Ipersuades soemone to sign a messgae saying I owned an account, literally anyone could simply ask the account holder to confirm by signing another message. I'd have to convinve them to keep signing whatever text anyone else gave them. The airdrop thing was interesting, I could see a scammer using that, all though I'm not sure what value signing an early adopter up to airdrop would do, you still wouldn't have their private key. I'm not sure what good pretening to own a crypto adess would do a scammer either, you can't send a transaction and signing a message "forum member x owns this address" still would not give a private key.
All right, so how do we proceed?
Oh_no_stop_this
Either. A group would be amazing as it would give more data points, but even a single user would be helpful.
SFR10 I see the confusion I didn't mean sign a message on behalf of me, I meant "stake the address" I need all three parts the message text(decided by the signer) the bitcoin adress and the key to verify them. However even if Ipersuades soemone to sign a messgae saying I owned an account, literally anyone could simply ask the account holder to confirm by signing another message. I'd have to convinve them to keep signing whatever text anyone else gave them. The airdrop thing was interesting, I could see a scammer using that, all though I'm not sure what value signing an early adopter up to airdrop would do, you still wouldn't have their private key. I'm not sure what good pretening to own a crypto adess would do a scammer either, you can't send a transaction and signing a message "forum member x owns this address" still would not give a private key.
Either. A group would be amazing as it would give more data points, but even a single user would be helpful.
SFR10 I see the confusion I didn't mean sign a message on behalf of me, I meant "stake the address" I need all three parts the message text(decided by the signer) the bitcoin adress and the key to verify them. However even if Ipersuades soemone to sign a messgae saying I owned an account, literally anyone could simply ask the account holder to confirm by signing another message. I'd have to convinve them to keep signing whatever text anyone else gave them. The airdrop thing was interesting, I could see a scammer using that, all though I'm not sure what value signing an early adopter up to airdrop would do, you still wouldn't have their private key. I'm not sure what good pretening to own a crypto adess would do a scammer either, you can't send a transaction and signing a message "forum member x owns this address" still would not give a private key.
Hi. Are you an early miner or other crypto rich (>17BTC) ideally in Europe, I'm looking to do some research, could you give me your address (pm is fine if you want to keep quiet) and sign a message on the blockchain for me. Any alt is fine if it's over about 17 btc worth. If your willing to do a q and a too that's fantastic.
Should it be just one person ore group of people counts?
The perosn signing the message can sign whatever they want, and I can't pretend anything else, because anyone can just ask for the message.
That's my point (highlighted part). If you ask them to sign a message on your behalf and they do it, then you can easily pretend (it's quite simple but you're mixing it up with something else).When you say "sign a message on the blockchain for me" (if you meant on your behalf) and if the message itself says: "you own the address that you signed the message from (even if it's not yours)", then nothing stops you (for pretending).
Zakir's Adress is 1MZakirz92c76pK6BNy1NAEmbWYpDcP7mh and his
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However I can't pretend to be him can I?
That method "you quoted", is "PGP". It's not the same as "signing a message using a BTCitcoin address [the one that you were asking]" (a bit similar but it's different).~Snipped~
However I can't pretend to be him can I?
It looks like the stake my signature thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/stake-your-bitcoin-address-here-996318 meets my needs.
Yes, read its last few pages and then compare it to "The BCT PGP/GPG Public Key Database: Stake Your PGP Key Here" (what you quoted, belongs to this thread).- FYI: The BCT in its title, means "Bitcointalk" (this forum [don't mix it up with bitcoin]).
If it was an airdrop(it's not) wouldn't you just fork like BCH then while you have 51% send whatever mining and (transactions) you like, then annouce the fork? Why would you need the signature? What would it matter, if they had the adress they would have airdrop
Read about the "airdrop that I mentioned the other day" (you'll find the answers).
SFR10
Sorry, for the bumps it was supposed to be one but my phone was playing up. Thanks for the link to the how to post the signature thread. The perosn signing the message can sign whatever they want, and I can't pretend anything else, because anyone can just ask for the message. Zakir's Adress is 1MZakirz92c76pK6BNy1NAEmbWYpDcP7mh and his
Now, I can see he is a miner and he had 42 BTC and his last transaction was 0.16 BTC. I can set up a watching wallet if I want too on all accounts that have transacitons with that address. However I can't pretend to be him can I? Because everyone else has it. It looks like the stake my signature thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/stake-your-bitcoin-address-here-996318 meets my needs.
If it was an airdrop(it's not) wouldn't you just fork like BCH then while you have 51% send whatever mining and (transactions) you like, then annouce the fork? Why would you need the signature? What would it matter, if they had the adress they would have airdrop
Hampsher and SFR10 I challenge you to prove that you own the adress above if it is so easy. I would do the resarch, just like I did in the example here. You wouldn't gain anything at all.
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Ah, I see the confusion. No I didn't mean on my behalf, I meant sign a message (using your own text) on the block chain. Or stake your signature. Your right it is not the same,I got the similar items n mixed up. Between the stake my signature thread and blockchain explorer I should have everything I need. What I want to do now is verify that a staked SIG belongs to the same person. Its newbie posts on this forum claiming to be Zakir as long as he has his bitcoin address it should be possible for me ti validate.it right?
Reading that airdrop which also requires signing suggests a worrying approach to scammers, pretending to own a bitcoin rich address. Though I'm not sure what the value of pretending to own one to scammers is beyond wasting sellers time as tire kickers.
Sorry, for the bumps it was supposed to be one but my phone was playing up. Thanks for the link to the how to post the signature thread. The perosn signing the message can sign whatever they want, and I can't pretend anything else, because anyone can just ask for the message. Zakir's Adress is 1MZakirz92c76pK6BNy1NAEmbWYpDcP7mh and his
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Now, I can see he is a miner and he had 42 BTC and his last transaction was 0.16 BTC. I can set up a watching wallet if I want too on all accounts that have transacitons with that address. However I can't pretend to be him can I? Because everyone else has it. It looks like the stake my signature thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/stake-your-bitcoin-address-here-996318 meets my needs.
If it was an airdrop(it's not) wouldn't you just fork like BCH then while you have 51% send whatever mining and (transactions) you like, then annouce the fork? Why would you need the signature? What would it matter, if they had the adress they would have airdrop
Hampsher and SFR10 I challenge you to prove that you own the adress above if it is so easy. I would do the resarch, just like I did in the example here. You wouldn't gain anything at all.
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Ah, I see the confusion. No I didn't mean on my behalf, I meant sign a message (using your own text) on the block chain. Or stake your signature. Your right it is not the same,I got the similar items n mixed up. Between the stake my signature thread and blockchain explorer I should have everything I need. What I want to do now is verify that a staked SIG belongs to the same person. Its newbie posts on this forum claiming to be Zakir as long as he has his bitcoin address it should be possible for me ti validate.it right?
Reading that airdrop which also requires signing suggests a worrying approach to scammers, pretending to own a bitcoin rich address. Though I'm not sure what the value of pretending to own one to scammers is beyond wasting sellers time as tire kickers.
Hi. Are you an early miner or other crypto rich (>17BTC) ideally in Europe, I'm looking to do some research, could you give me your address (pm is fine if you want to keep quiet) and sign a message on the blockchain for me. Any alt is fine if it's over about 17 btc worth. If your willing to do a q and a too that's fantastic.
Who would be the one to do such request? Research? I dont think so. I had read up some similar request recently which do ask for a signed message having a big balance or holding in their wallet.Its obvious on where this signed message would be used to.I completely agreed on the things said above by SFR. You can pretend that you do own that balance which can really be used on fooling someone or for the benefit on scamming someone since you can able to convince him with those informations given out to you and also why would i give such request? what would i gain? If I was going to Airdrop I'd just pull the data off blockchain.info .
That's not enough (for such airdrops).sign a message on the blockchain for me.
I literally can't pretend I have that much crypto and neither can you. The protocol doesn't allow it. If you sign a message with your wallet, anybody can verify that you have the private key to the wallet without it.SFR10 here is my signed message (signature) how are you going to impersonate me with that?
Anyone can verify ownership of the account.
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That's not the correct way to post a signed message (nobody gives only the "signature" when they sign a message, [Address, Message and Signature]). I suggest to read the following thread: How to sign a message?!Anyone can verify ownership of the account.
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SFR10 here is my signed message (signature) how are you going to impersonate me with that?
Anyone can verify ownership of the account.
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Anyone can verify ownership of the account.
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could you give me your address (pm is fine if you want to keep quiet) and sign a message on the blockchain for me. Any alt is fine if it's over about 17 btc worth. If your willing to do a q and a too that's fantastic.
I have a feeling, you're going to use it for one of the following things (Q&A part it's just a trick to mislead everyone):- Airdrop (like Byteball had).
- Use it to scam and pretend that you have that much crypto.
If I was going to Airdrop I'd just pull the data off blockchain.info .
I literally can't pretend I have that much crypto and neither can you. The protocol doesn't allow it. If you sign a message with your wallet, anybody can verify that you have the private key to the wallet without it.
Hi. I'm researching how the crypto rich spend their money. Obviously I could just use the blockchain explorer but it's handy if I can ask queries based on the transactions.
I'm also intrested in why they don't invest in start-ups projects or private placements like I understand the US investors do. Crypto investors have a similar risk profile to angel investors so what accounts for that?
I'm also intrested in why they don't invest in start-ups projects or private placements like I understand the US investors do. Crypto investors have a similar risk profile to angel investors so what accounts for that?
Are you an early miner or other crypto rich (>17BTC) ideally in Europe, I'm looking to do some research
What type of research?could you give me your address (pm is fine if you want to keep quiet) and sign a message on the blockchain for me. Any alt is fine if it's over about 17 btc worth. If your willing to do a q and a too that's fantastic.
I have a feeling, you're going to use it for one of the following things (Q&A part it's just a trick to mislead everyone):- Airdrop (like Byteball had).
- Use it to scam and pretend that you have that much crypto.
Hi. Are you an early miner or other crypto rich (>17BTC) ideally in Europe, I'm looking to do some research, could you give me your address (pm is fine if you want to keep quiet) and sign a message on the blockchain for me. Any alt is fine if it's over about 17 btc worth. If your willing to do a q and a too that's fantastic.
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