Topic: [Looking for escrow] LOTTERY.CHAINBID.COM - New Year Lottery with Provably fair (Read 1203 times)
December 16, 2015, 02:48:39 PM
Later all this change now change already a domain ? and wait for escrow ? I think you not have more lucky for this lottery, the last ticket sold is 4 day later and extraction is in 2 week. Is better start new lottery with escrow first to start
December 15, 2015, 04:58:15 PM
Hi, for technical reasons, we moved the project to the domain https://lottery.chainbid.com/
December 15, 2015, 02:05:08 PM
If the deposits are in hold of an escrow does that mean the escrow would need to pay every winner manually?
Yes, the winner will be paid directly from escrow.
And by the way we have not found anyone who wants us to escrow, and missing a few days.
December 15, 2015, 01:55:01 PM
If the deposits are in hold of an escrow does that mean the escrow would need to pay every winner manually?
December 15, 2015, 01:50:33 PM
You are right, but since it was decided to rely on an escrow, we can no longer hold funds over the starting address .
We are only reviewing the script that automatically deposit funds to the escrow to the objectives (every 0.1 BTC of ticket sold, a TX to the escrow).
This does not affect the transparency of the lottery because they care for the provably fair, are incoming transactions and not outgoing.
We are only reviewing the script that automatically deposit funds to the escrow to the objectives (every 0.1 BTC of ticket sold, a TX to the escrow).
This does not affect the transparency of the lottery because they care for the provably fair, are incoming transactions and not outgoing.
December 15, 2015, 04:23:10 AM
@ChainBid
Could you please explain why 0.056 btc had been trasfered?
https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/address/1Chain6W4cqXy6d7rWxxBnD1dsRRMmtdoC/
Could you please explain why 0.056 btc had been trasfered?
https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/address/1Chain6W4cqXy6d7rWxxBnD1dsRRMmtdoC/
December 15, 2015, 03:55:05 AM
Now, if you have found a escrow and have provably fair, your site is safe, but for me you have start too late, there are only 15 day to the end of year and not have more time for advertise the site
December 15, 2015, 12:20:36 AM
i have see different bitcoin lottery in the forum, the problem not is the provably fair system, but the trust of user. If better use a escrow system or similar, because if you sell 2-3 bitcoin of ticket and later don't pay ? 
This is our second project in the field of bitcoin.
In ChainBid project we have already paid several times the prizes of the completed auctions.
Obviously we do not oblige anyone to write in the thread if they win, but fortunately someone has done it and gave us positive feedback, also an Hero Member, as you can see.
We understand your distrust, although excessive, and we try in every way to gain the trust of our customers, especially as we aim to conquer and retain them for a long time in view of the next interesting new projects and implementations of those already launched.
We look to the future and it would be really stupid to disappoint and betray your confidence for some bitcoin after so much work done.
Don't you think so?
Whatever you explain but if you want to attract more people to your service than I feel you should go with any reputed escrow until you gain a trust on this forum. Most of the gamblers know buying lottery is nothing but almost losing money but do not want to lose from site SCAM (not blaming you, but it had happened on this forum). Since your forum trust is not so high so if I want to buy tickets than I won't do that because of your trust rating,
i totally agree with you, their are so many users coming with all news ideas and schems but at the end they all scam and run away with the invested money, of if you are genuine the using escrow should not be problem for you. and most of the lottery sites are scams.
I dont think this is a scam though, because it will be escrowed. The thing is who is he going to use as escrow, if there a reputable escrow will escrow this I think this will be going well for us and for everyone that want to do this kind of lottery. Btw the one who make this site is chainbid right so I dont think he will scam because chainbid site is still running, if he scam the reputable of chainbid will be gone forever. I dont think he would dare to take that scam risk
December 14, 2015, 10:48:19 PM
Contact one of the sites trusted escrows(master-P is a great one) transfer the current funds in the lottery to the escrow address provided and change the OP to escrow address for rest of tickets bought and your problem should be solved. Giving the escrow you choose priv keys really isnt securing funds at all
December 14, 2015, 07:52:34 PM
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vincitore.
La parola a Chainbid
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Grazie
This is my escrow service offer posted last december 12 on the italian thread. Dev's asked to replay it here.
So i am offering escrow service for this and next lottery.
thanks
December 13, 2015, 11:32:22 AM
Great idea, I like the fact that you made the ticket price so low
I will buy a couple of tickets for sure once you get escrow sorted out.
We can also evaluate escrow, and reward him with the 0.5% of ticket sales (99% goes to the winner of the lottery) with a maximum payement of 0,5 bitcoin.
If there are no contraindications, we will move to him 0.1 BTC whenever that ticket sales will reach this amount.
Who is willing? but fast because only a few days in New Year.
Yeah I wouldn't participate without escrow, given that you're just a junior member with no trust.
I will buy a couple of tickets for sure once you get escrow sorted out.
and where is the problem ? You send this amount to escrow and resolve all doubt of member. For now you have sell only 67 ticket, , search an escrow and every 100 ticket for example, you send 0,1 to escrow
We can also evaluate escrow, and reward him with the 0.5% of ticket sales (99% goes to the winner of the lottery) with a maximum payement of 0,5 bitcoin.
If there are no contraindications, we will move to him 0.1 BTC whenever that ticket sales will reach this amount.
Who is willing? but fast because only a few days in New Year.
December 13, 2015, 11:26:46 AM
You can always reward the escrow but there are few good escrow services which are free .You can search for master-p in the members section and leave him a message .
December 13, 2015, 10:21:25 AM
and where is the problem ? You send this amount to escrow and resolve all doubt of member. For now you have sell only 67 ticket, , search an escrow and every 100 ticket for example, you send 0,1 to escrow
We can also evaluate escrow, and reward him with the 0.5% of ticket sales (99% goes to the winner of the lottery) with a maximum payement of 0,5 bitcoin.
If there are no contraindications, we will move to him 0.1 BTC whenever that ticket sales will reach this amount.
Who is willing? but fast because only a few days in New Year.
December 13, 2015, 07:30:30 AM
Why would we trust you if you dont use escrow? There is too much scams in Bitcoin and even if you done something right in past that dont guarantee nothing.
December 13, 2015, 07:23:26 AM
Now we can't use escrow, because the lottery has already begun and also giving to the escrow the private key, we could always spend it. For the future, we reserve the right to use escrow but we would prefer to acquire trust in order to work independently as we already do in the project ChainBid.
and where is the problem ? You send this amount to escrow and resolve all doubt of member. For now you have sell only 67 ticket, , search an escrow and every 100 ticket for example, you send 0,1 to escrow
December 13, 2015, 03:37:26 AM
Now we can't use escrow, because the lottery has already begun and also giving to the escrow the private key, we could always spend it. For the future, we reserve the right to use escrow but we would prefer to acquire trust in order to work independently as we already do in the project ChainBid.
Than good luck with your new venture. No one is asking to give your private key to escrow but you need to transfer your money into escrow account. How much? it depends on how much business your expecting. If you start giving these kind of answer than from this forum you will not get any investors or ticket buyers.
December 12, 2015, 10:31:45 PM
Now we can't use escrow, because the lottery has already begun and also giving to the escrow the private key, we could always spend it. For the future, we reserve the right to use escrow but we would prefer to acquire trust in order to work independently as we already do in the project ChainBid.
December 12, 2015, 02:43:07 PM
Some of my thoughts:
* Your use of Math.ceil means if 20 tickets were bought, there's 21 possible outcomes? If the winning ticket is 0 (a 1 in a million), does that mean the house wins the lottery prize?
* You use "timestamp of the receipt" to order tickets, but there's no way (afaict) for you to prove to use this order. Perhaps you're better switch to "blockchain order" or doing what pevpot does, and sort by txid
* What does "first block of 2016" mean? Does it mean the first block in which a miner **says** it was in 2016 (using the timestamp field in the block) or does it mean the first block that you receive in 2016? The first is vulnerable to a miner lying (only at the cost of block discarding) and the latter is hard for you to prove. Unless you want to go by blockchain.info's "recieve time" or something
* It has a 1% house edge, when pevpot for instance has a negative house edge (and supports forwarding from exchanges/other wallets) too
* Your use of Math.ceil means if 20 tickets were bought, there's 21 possible outcomes? If the winning ticket is 0 (a 1 in a million), does that mean the house wins the lottery prize?
* You use "timestamp of the receipt" to order tickets, but there's no way (afaict) for you to prove to use this order. Perhaps you're better switch to "blockchain order" or doing what pevpot does, and sort by txid
* What does "first block of 2016" mean? Does it mean the first block in which a miner **says** it was in 2016 (using the timestamp field in the block) or does it mean the first block that you receive in 2016? The first is vulnerable to a miner lying (only at the cost of block discarding) and the latter is hard for you to prove. Unless you want to go by blockchain.info's "recieve time" or something
* It has a 1% house edge, when pevpot for instance has a negative house edge (and supports forwarding from exchanges/other wallets) too
December 12, 2015, 02:00:38 PM
i have see different bitcoin lottery in the forum, the problem not is the provably fair system, but the trust of user. If better use a escrow system or similar, because if you sell 2-3 bitcoin of ticket and later don't pay ?
This is our second project in the field of bitcoin.
In ChainBid project we have already paid several times the prizes of the completed auctions.
Obviously we do not oblige anyone to write in the thread if they win, but fortunately someone has done it and gave us positive feedback, also an Hero Member, as you can see.
We understand your distrust, although excessive, and we try in every way to gain the trust of our customers, especially as we aim to conquer and retain them for a long time in view of the next interesting new projects and implementations of those already launched.
We look to the future and it would be really stupid to disappoint and betray your confidence for some bitcoin after so much work done.
Don't you think so?
Whatever you explain but if you want to attract more people to your service than I feel you should go with any reputed escrow until you gain a trust on this forum. Most of the gamblers know buying lottery is nothing but almost losing money but do not want to lose from site SCAM (not blaming you, but it had happened on this forum). Since your forum trust is not so high so if I want to buy tickets than I won't do that because of your trust rating,
i totally agree with you, their are so many users coming with all news ideas and schems but at the end they all scam and run away with the invested money, of if you are genuine the using escrow should not be problem for you. and most of the lottery sites are scams.
December 12, 2015, 01:06:38 PM
Do you have any idea of chances of winning on multiple tickets ? For example if I buy multiple tickets ,will that increase my chances of winnings? Since its a online lottery do you have any percentile of winnings weighted on any numbers ?
More tickets you buy the greater the change of winning.
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