The people are just dumb... it's the same in every country.
Not just germany.
The people are happy with food, shelter and apple products.
Not just germany.
The people are happy with food, shelter and apple products.
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I've read that traders use 5 to 10 years of historic data to test their indicators on. Bitcoin simply doesn't have enough historical data, and is a starting market, thus making any sound prediction of the future based on the past a hard call.
Didn't you know that in bitcoin world, one year is equivalent of 10+ years of regular markets? Look at volatility, we go through all the regular events 10 times faster. We already had three huge crashes after enormous 100-fold rallies, something that took wallstreet about 100 years. So I'd say there is enough history. And no, bitcoin never broke the previous ATH and I doubt it will do it now. The previous ones were $0.5 ATH, $1.1 ATH, $32 ATH, $266 ATH, now $1242 - once we are well past that mark, we won't see it again.
And as some blabla to the OP, I am from Finland probably quite same as denmark but even worse climate, national hobby is having a liter of vodka and beating your wife and kids on weekends (not forgetting to throw them out in the snow) But thats only the stereotype if you want to see it that way, I like it in the summer time when there is a chance of maybe going outside in a t-shirt and sun just stays up and everything.
I only have a high school degree myself and estonians and polish people are coming to do most of the crap works with low pay so pretty much the same situation. But I thought it over, managed to land myself a job in the harbour (have also been changing tyres, scaffolding and some electricity stuff) so now I work the best weather 7-9 months and travel the rest somewhere where its warm. ATM Cambodia, 28,5C at 1:29AM.
I've had some downturns also, hurt myself at job, sporting etc. only my left hand is without a surgery or any metal in it. And I'm 24years old, have payments for my apartment at home and all the stuff people consider "normal". With BTC I was quite late, heard something about it in late 2011 but found it too difficult to buy and forgot about it until this october or so when I read of the norwegian guy buying an apartment with BTC. Started buying in but still have like only bit more than 5BTC, hopefully can accumulate more and let it be only choochoo for 2014.
So maybe I could be somekind of an example for you, you can if you want.
Peace.
You should really travel a a bit to see how other people live and why those immigrants come and do all the crap jobs. In Poland, Ukraine, Bulgaria and many other typical monthly wage is below $500. I used to work 12 hours a day for $2/h (!) and I have a master's degree, speak 3 languages and can do anything from repairing your car to setting up a LAN network. I know people who have PhD in science and work for $600/month. Before you start complaining about your hard and exhausting $20/h job come and visit us third worlders
On the other hand, it makes sense for people with a large enough amount of savings to move to another country where they can get 5 times as much for their money. Which is precisely what I plan to do.
Besides the above, any country can be worth living in if the people and policies in it are acceptable. They no longer are, and haven't been for some 20 years or more. Increased immigration and decreasing purchasing power are just symptoms of a larger social disease. It happens whenever an empire begins to crumble from the inside. The west won't be leading the world 50 years from now.
We're still nowhere near the vertical stage of the adoption curve.
I think we are close to it.We only need more poular media-Attention and the vertical starts.
In Germany it will be DER SPIEGEL, FOCUS,STERN and the tabloid BILD.
In Canada ?
In the USA Newsweek,Time Magazine and ?
I think it will start hitting the vertical between $5k-10k and start leveling off due to saturation somewhere around $500k-700k. Just my opinion, not a prediction.
Media attention in Canada?
CBC, CTV, Global, Rogers, etc., and the daily newspapers: Globe and Mail, National post on a national scale, plus local dailies like the Toronto Star, Vancouver Sun, Montreal Gazette, etc.
Magazines are almost obsolete. In fact the former best magazine store in my neighborhood recently replaced the magazine rack with a greeting card display. The only places to find all the magazines are at the railway station and bus depot.
I've read that traders use 5 to 10 years of historic data to test their indicators on. Bitcoin simply doesn't have enough historical data, and is a starting market, thus making any sound prediction of the future based on the past a hard call.
Didn't you know that in bitcoin world, one year is equivalent of 10+ years of regular markets? Look at volatility, we go through all the regular events 10 times faster. We already had three huge crashes after enormous 100-fold rallies, something that took wallstreet about 100 years. So I'd say there is enough history. And no, bitcoin never broke the previous ATH and I doubt it will do it now. The previous ones were $0.5 ATH, $1.1 ATH, $32 ATH, $266 ATH, now $1242 - once we are well past that mark, we won't see it again.
And as some blabla to the OP, I am from Finland probably quite same as denmark but even worse climate, national hobby is having a liter of vodka and beating your wife and kids on weekends (not forgetting to throw them out in the snow) But thats only the stereotype if you want to see it that way, I like it in the summer time when there is a chance of maybe going outside in a t-shirt and sun just stays up and everything.
I only have a high school degree myself and estonians and polish people are coming to do most of the crap works with low pay so pretty much the same situation. But I thought it over, managed to land myself a job in the harbour (have also been changing tyres, scaffolding and some electricity stuff) so now I work the best weather 7-9 months and travel the rest somewhere where its warm. ATM Cambodia, 28,5C at 1:29AM.
I've had some downturns also, hurt myself at job, sporting etc. only my left hand is without a surgery or any metal in it. And I'm 24years old, have payments for my apartment at home and all the stuff people consider "normal". With BTC I was quite late, heard something about it in late 2011 but found it too difficult to buy and forgot about it until this october or so when I read of the norwegian guy buying an apartment with BTC. Started buying in but still have like only bit more than 5BTC, hopefully can accumulate more and let it be only choochoo for 2014.
So maybe I could be somekind of an example for you, you can if you want.
Peace.
You should really travel a a bit to see how other people live and why those immigrants come and do all the crap jobs. In Poland, Ukraine, Bulgaria and many other typical monthly wage is below $500. I used to work 12 hours a day for $2/h (!) and I have a master's degree, speak 3 languages and can do anything from repairing your car to setting up a LAN network. I know people who have PhD in science and work for $600/month. Before you start complaining about your hard and exhausting $20/h job come and visit us third worlders
The people are just dumb... it's the same in every country.
Not just germany.
The people are happy with food, shelter and apple products.
Not just germany.
The people are happy with food, shelter and apple products.
We're still nowhere near the vertical stage of the adoption curve.
I think we are close to it.We only need more poular media-Attention and the vertical starts.
Don't we need some more infrastructure as well? Several large, reliable exchanges that can handle the waves of new buyers?
I think BTC is still at least a year away from truly going mainstream (in the Western world). And then there's the rest of the world, where most people live. There's tremendous upside.
These papers are for the uneducated dumbass. They will never buy bitcoin, either they are to stupid or don`t have any money to spare.
That's the majority of germany.
I appreciate your friendly view on the Germans.That's the majority of germany.
I never thought I am an uneducated dumbass.
It depends on your timeframe and scale. If you are are trading a small portion of your position over a long time to preserve profits and gain from selloffs, incremental is the way to go. If you are taking large, short term positions to make profits in whatever asset you prefer to hold, then go with Livermore.
Different styles for different temperaments. It takes all kinds to make a market. Personally, I go the Livermore route for fun while my bot handles the incremental. Just never go short with leverage in this market unless you have nerves of steel.
Different styles for different temperaments. It takes all kinds to make a market. Personally, I go the Livermore route for fun while my bot handles the incremental. Just never go short with leverage in this market unless you have nerves of steel.
We're still nowhere near the vertical stage of the adoption curve.
I think we are close to it.We only need more poular media-Attention and the vertical starts.
In Germany it will be DER SPIEGEL, FOCUS,STERN and the tabloid BILD.
In Canada ?
In the USA Newsweek,Time Magazine and ?
In Germany?
These papers are for the uneducated dumbass. They will never buy bitcoin, either they are to stupid or don`t have any money to spare.
That's the majority of germany.
We're still nowhere near the vertical stage of the adoption curve.
I think we are close to it.We only need more poular media-Attention and the vertical starts.
In Germany it will be DER SPIEGEL, FOCUS,STERN and the tabloid BILD.
In Canada ?
In the USA Newsweek,Time Magazine and ?
Bitcoin never will be 10.000 usd. Who would buy bitcoins for 10k a pop?
When a whole bitcoin is enough to retire on, anyone would jump at the chance for a cheap $10k whole coin.
We're still nowhere near the vertical stage of the adoption curve.
I've read that traders use 5 to 10 years of historic data to test their indicators on. Bitcoin simply doesn't have enough historical data, and is a starting market, thus making any sound prediction of the future based on the past a hard call.
Didn't you know that in bitcoin world, one year is equivalent of 10+ years of regular markets? Look at volatility, we go through all the regular events 10 times faster. We already had three huge crashes after enormous 100-fold rallies, something that took wallstreet about 100 years. So I'd say there is enough history. And no, bitcoin never broke the previous ATH and I doubt it will do it now. The previous ones were $0.5 ATH, $1.1 ATH, $32 ATH, $266 ATH, now $1242 - once we are well past that mark, we won't see it again.
And as some blabla to the OP, I am from Finland probably quite same as denmark but even worse climate, national hobby is having a liter of vodka and beating your wife and kids on weekends (not forgetting to throw them out in the snow) But thats only the stereotype if you want to see it that way, I like it in the summer time when there is a chance of maybe going outside in a t-shirt and sun just stays up and everything.
I only have a high school degree myself and estonians and polish people are coming to do most of the crap works with low pay so pretty much the same situation. But I thought it over, managed to land myself a job in the harbour (have also been changing tyres, scaffolding and some electricity stuff) so now I work the best weather 7-9 months and travel the rest somewhere where its warm. ATM Cambodia, 28,5C at 1:29AM.
I've had some downturns also, hurt myself at job, sporting etc. only my left hand is without a surgery or any metal in it. And I'm 24years old, have payments for my apartment at home and all the stuff people consider "normal". With BTC I was quite late, heard something about it in late 2011 but found it too difficult to buy and forgot about it until this october or so when I read of the norwegian guy buying an apartment with BTC. Started buying in but still have like only bit more than 5BTC, hopefully can accumulate more and let it be only choochoo for 2014.
So maybe I could be somekind of an example for you, you can if you want.
Peace.
You should really travel a a bit to see how other people live and why those immigrants come and do all the crap jobs. In Poland, Ukraine, Bulgaria and many other typical monthly wage is below $500. I used to work 12 hours a day for $2/h (!) and I have a master's degree, speak 3 languages and can do anything from repairing your car to setting up a LAN network. I know people who have PhD in science and work for $600/month. Before you start complaining about your hard and exhausting $20/h job come and visit us third worlders
Bitcoin never will be 10.000 usd. Who would buy bitcoins for 10k a pop?
People don't have to buy by the pop, they will think if they buy 100US$ worth of bitcoins today, next year they can have 10,000US$
but oh, there will be a day when the growth stops and everyone who wants a bitcoin has one. and then the speculators will leave. they will exit the market in troves and the ones who stay will short and we will enter the first real bear market bitcoin will have ever seen, The Great Correction to its heretofore undisturbed infinite bullrun... but that likely won't happen yet for quite some time.
hint: the paradigm isn't "everybody gets rich". you speak like if you can't get returns on your bitcoin investment it's 'broken'.
No, I would consider bitcoin perfectly unbroken if it ever reaches mainstream adoption. I would not care if the price goes down or up then, will trade the swings, this would be a safe investment by then, I don't think there would be a need to exit. Time to exit would be if the price goes down *before* worldwide adoption.
Bitcoin never will be 10.000 usd. Who would buy bitcoins for 10k a pop?
http://bitbet.us/bet/635/1btc-10-000-usd/Place your bets gentlemen, place your bets! Easy money on a sure thing, no way to lose, place your bets!
You can do everything with cash but not so much with bitcoins. That is the sad truth
You can't send cash across the globe in seconds. That's where Bitcoin steps in.
Bitcoin never will be 10.000 usd. Who would buy bitcoins for 10k a pop?
Right now the only reason 99% of the trades is because they want to make profit and turn back into fiat. Once that is over the bubble will pop and bitcoin will stay in the 100 dollar range forever. I rather have 10 million usd than 11000k bitcoins
Unless bitcoin has a steady price and is accepted everywhere like cash it will never be accepted by society.
You can do everything with cash but not so much with bitcoins. That is the sad truth
Do you realize that if bitcoin is heavily adopted $10,000 for an entire bitcoin (it's pretty clear mBTC will be widely adopted by then) will likely be a memory of the distant past? If bitcoin really takes off, $100,000 for an entire bitcoin is a real possibility. Of course, that's if bitcoin really takes off. Right now the only reason 99% of the trades is because they want to make profit and turn back into fiat. Once that is over the bubble will pop and bitcoin will stay in the 100 dollar range forever. I rather have 10 million usd than 11000k bitcoins
Unless bitcoin has a steady price and is accepted everywhere like cash it will never be accepted by society.
You can do everything with cash but not so much with bitcoins. That is the sad truth
Right now the only reason 99% of the trades is because they want to make profit and turn back into fiat.
Speak for yourself...
Bitcoin never will be 10.000 usd. Who would buy bitcoins for 10k a pop?
Right now the only reason 99% of the trades is because they want to make profit and turn back into fiat. Once that is over the bubble will pop and bitcoin will stay in the 100 dollar range forever. I rather have 10 million usd than 11000k bitcoins
Unless bitcoin has a steady price and is accepted everywhere like cash it will never be accepted by society.
You can do everything with cash but not so much with bitcoins. That is the sad truth
Right now the only reason 99% of the trades is because they want to make profit and turn back into fiat. Once that is over the bubble will pop and bitcoin will stay in the 100 dollar range forever. I rather have 10 million usd than 11000k bitcoins
Unless bitcoin has a steady price and is accepted everywhere like cash it will never be accepted by society.
You can do everything with cash but not so much with bitcoins. That is the sad truth
I've read that traders use 5 to 10 years of historic data to test their indicators on. Bitcoin simply doesn't have enough historical data, and is a starting market, thus making any sound prediction of the future based on the past a hard call.
Didn't you know that in bitcoin world, one year is equivalent of 10+ years of regular markets? Look at volatility, we go through all the regular events 10 times faster. We already had three huge crashes after enormous 100-fold rallies, something that took wallstreet about 100 years. So I'd say there is enough history. And no, bitcoin never broke the previous ATH and I doubt it will do it now. The previous ones were $0.5 ATH, $1.1 ATH, $32 ATH, $266 ATH, now $1242 - once we are well past that mark, we won't see it again.
And as some blabla to the OP, I am from Finland probably quite same as denmark but even worse climate, national hobby is having a liter of vodka and beating your wife and kids on weekends (not forgetting to throw them out in the snow) But thats only the stereotype if you want to see it that way, I like it in the summer time when there is a chance of maybe going outside in a t-shirt and sun just stays up and everything.
I only have a high school degree myself and estonians and polish people are coming to do most of the crap works with low pay so pretty much the same situation. But I thought it over, managed to land myself a job in the harbour (have also been changing tyres, scaffolding and some electricity stuff) so now I work the best weather 7-9 months and travel the rest somewhere where its warm. ATM Cambodia, 28,5C at 1:29AM.
I've had some downturns also, hurt myself at job, sporting etc. only my left hand is without a surgery or any metal in it. And I'm 24years old, have payments for my apartment at home and all the stuff people consider "normal". With BTC I was quite late, heard something about it in late 2011 but found it too difficult to buy and forgot about it until this october or so when I read of the norwegian guy buying an apartment with BTC. Started buying in but still have like only bit more than 5BTC, hopefully can accumulate more and let it be only choochoo for 2014.
So maybe I could be somekind of an example for you, you can if you want.
Peace.
You should really travel a a bit to see how other people live and why those immigrants come and do all the crap jobs. In Poland, Ukraine, Bulgaria and many other typical monthly wage is below $500. I used to work 12 hours a day for $2/h (!) and I have a master's degree, speak 3 languages and can do anything from repairing your car to setting up a LAN network. I know people who have PhD in science and work for $600/month. Before you start complaining about your hard and exhausting $20/h job come and visit us third worlders
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