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Topic: Losing hope here.... - page 2. (Read 4617 times)

hero member
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December 10, 2015, 11:15:04 AM
#73
That's incorrect in my humble opinion.
There's a lot of places on the internet where people congregate and talk about Bitcoin, this one being only one of a few. Even if this forum went to shit and/or shut down, people would just move to a different site and continue as they were previously. This forum is insignificant on the future of Bitcoin because of this, same as a forum about the Russian Ruble would be insignificant on the progress of the Ruble its self.

That's incorrect to me. This is the most popular forum for Bitcoin, created directly by Satoshi with half a million users registered.

Yes and the news are also watched by millions of people yet when they say killing or raping is bad, guess what, killing and raping still happen because people who do those things don't give a shit, same concept applied here
legendary
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December 10, 2015, 11:07:05 AM
#72
That's incorrect to me. This is the most popular forum for Bitcoin, created directly by Satoshi with half a million users registered.
Wrong. More than half are probably bot/shill accounts. The exact numbers are debatable. I doubt that there are only 168k shills/bots (668 613 total members ATM). It is highly likely that the number of such accounts is very.

Not souly. Superficially. Our superficial reputation is not in the best place as of now, so.
I could care less (is what people making things happen would say). They don't care if you get butthurt here or don't (I doubt anyone cares). It is the internet, either deal with it or stop using it.

I propose an alternate solution: You leave these forums, and never post again.
Or take this piece of advice; it works best.
full member
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December 10, 2015, 09:26:26 AM
#71
Just a reminder: if my rule actually does go into full affect, then it means the reputation forum is being removed. It's just a playground for trolls anyway.


Proof:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--1182044
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/quickseller-is-a-nigga-1214854
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/vod-you-are-an-asshole-1266576

It is better for people to troll in a specific subform, so that they will not troll every where in the forum. People want to show who is right.
hero member
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December 10, 2015, 08:47:38 AM
#70
That's incorrect in my humble opinion.
The success of Bitcoin is not dependent on this forum. Most of the important players do not waste their time on forums/reddit (unless some AMA event/other). Besides, Bitcoin should not be based solely on 2 communities.
Not souly. Superficially. Our superficial reputation is not in the best place as of now, so.
hero member
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Merit: 500
December 10, 2015, 08:46:32 AM
#69
That's incorrect in my humble opinion.
There's a lot of places on the internet where people congregate and talk about Bitcoin, this one being only one of a few. Even if this forum went to shit and/or shut down, people would just move to a different site and continue as they were previously. This forum is insignificant on the future of Bitcoin because of this, same as a forum about the Russian Ruble would be insignificant on the progress of the Ruble its self.

That's incorrect to me. This is the most popular forum for Bitcoin, created directly by Satoshi with half a million users registered.
legendary
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Merit: 1067
Christian Antkow
December 10, 2015, 08:37:33 AM
#68
I propose an alternate solution: You leave these forums, and never post again.

This is not a place for special snowflakes like yourself.
legendary
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December 10, 2015, 08:12:53 AM
#67
That's incorrect in my humble opinion.
The success of Bitcoin is not dependent on this forum. Most of the important players do not waste their time on forums/reddit (unless some AMA event/other). Besides, Bitcoin should not be based solely on 2 communities.
legendary
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In Memory of Zepher
December 10, 2015, 07:49:29 AM
#66
That's incorrect in my humble opinion.
There's a lot of places on the internet where people congregate and talk about Bitcoin, this one being only one of a few. Even if this forum went to shit and/or shut down, people would just move to a different site and continue as they were previously. This forum is insignificant on the future of Bitcoin because of this, same as a forum about the Russian Ruble would be insignificant on the progress of the Ruble its self.
legendary
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Merit: 1116
December 10, 2015, 05:57:21 AM
#65
At this point, I don't really believe Bitcoin will have a chance. We need to work together, and not against each other. I'm so tired of working 7 days a week, for 50 bucks a day. That's not gonna pay anything. Yes I'm still in school and still young, but that doesn't mean that I'm not allowed to worry about my future, or our future as the Bitcoin family. My business partners are always worried about the overall reputation, and behavior like this is not how we're going to get a price increase. The media is always against us, so it doesn't make a sense to go make matters worse to the point where we're even against each other. If you suspect someone is a scammer, that's fine. Put it on the trust rank page. Just don't make a campaign about it. The currency already looks negative in the eyes of the public. You are all just making it worse.

Basically, you're mad because we couldn't be less interested in her/his/your gawdy knick-knacks and infantile forum behaviour?




Good.
hero member
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December 10, 2015, 05:48:53 AM
#64
At this point, I don't really believe Bitcoin will have a chance. We need to work together, and not against each other.
-snip-
The behavior of users on this forum will have a minor or no impact at all to the success of Bitcoin. What you say here is not going to change how people act on the internet (i.e. this is not forum specific).
That's incorrect in my humble opinion.
legendary
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December 10, 2015, 04:56:15 AM
#63
At this point, I don't really believe Bitcoin will have a chance. We need to work together, and not against each other.
-snip-
The behavior of users on this forum will have a minor or no impact at all to the success of Bitcoin. What you say here is not going to change how people act on the internet (i.e. this is not forum specific).
hero member
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December 10, 2015, 04:03:08 AM
#62
At this point, I don't really believe Bitcoin will have a chance. We need to work together, and not against each other. I'm so tired of working 7 days a week, for 50 bucks a day. That's not gonna pay anything. Yes I'm still in school and still young, but that doesn't mean that I'm not allowed to worry about my future, or our future as the Bitcoin family. My business partners are always worried about the overall reputation, and behavior like this is not how we're going to get a price increase. The media is always against us, so it doesn't make a sense to go make matters worse to the point where we're even against each other. If you suspect someone is a scammer, that's fine. Put it on the trust rank page. Just don't make a campaign about it. The currency already looks negative in the eyes of the public. You are all just making it worse.
legendary
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FUD Philanthropist™
December 08, 2015, 11:01:04 PM
#61
To reply to the topic title..
There shouldn't be any here at all.
It should all be done out in the real world.
Being a pathetic shill at Bitcointalk.org accomplishes nothing.
We only need Facts here.. not upbeat happy advertisements.

There is good and bad and it is embraced or your being dishonest.
Take an Exchange i won't name for example..
If there is large evidence your coins will not show up if you send them to the exchange
should you say something maybe and warn others ?
Well, that would be negative and FUD and will of course get you banned.

You can't just prance around the Altcoin scene skipping along pretending problems do not exist.

Arb'ing coins got so dangerous loooong ago i quit doing it.
I kept getting burned when my coins did not show up.
And today it's waaay worse !
Now it's typical for users to be happy they got *some of their coins.
Something is fatally wrong with the Altcoin scene.
If exchange to exchange transfers have gotten that bad i'd say we have a HUGE problem.
But you can't bring it up anywhere with out being labeled a Troll FUD'ing.
The knee jerk reaction is to call people a liar until THEIR coins are gone.
Many guys said they figured the Cryptsy complaints were FUD by Trolls as the Cryptsy staff claims.
then later they said they changed their mind after seeing the problem first hand.

At what point do you guys start to care for new users coming in ?
Rather than cheerleading for an exchange or coin or dev etc ?
If you all cared about this stuff like you claim you would be looking after the noobs coming in..
Not preying on them.
hero member
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December 08, 2015, 10:48:17 PM
#60
Yes I agree. The Scam Accusations forum is filled with dramas everyday if not every hour. The (still small) community of Bitcoin should come together and build a better and greater Bitcoin community. We should help each other out such as mining advice and buying advice but we should not go against each other. This may look like censorship (to others not using Bitcoin) but we are doing it to help the Bitcoin community.
I am glad that you will feel the need to agree. At first I actually thought it was a bad idea. Now I am noticing it is a good idea.
I am pretty sure you still talk about people anyway, which I told you not to do because you don't have much trust here. Only specific people can get away with doing that. There is no rule book here, so it's about posting things that are going to make you liked. If you're not liked, you cannot do certain things.
hero member
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December 08, 2015, 10:15:05 PM
#59

''should we stop discussing other users publicly, and limit the discussion to just their trust rank page?'' Now he says he is not against freedom of speech, he should lock the thread otherwise he is contradicting himself. By the way, trolling, like you do is baneable in this forum, be careful.




The definition of trolling is posting deliberately rude comments on the internet to provoke angry reactions. I've never done that. I would understand if I said "YOU ARE STUPID, ANNOYING, AND YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND ANYTHING" being considered as trolling.

Me calmy pointing out opinions and facts is not. You on the other hand happen to be too sensitive, which means you at some point will be banned for falsely reporting comments.

The ignore feature is there for a reason. I suggest you use it.

Let's get our definitions right, shall we? [1]

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/trolling

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7.
Digital Technology. Informal.
to post inflammatory or inappropriate messages or comments on (the Internet, especially a message board) for the purpose of upsetting other users and provoking a response.
to upset or provoke (other users) by posting such messages or comments.

No need to be rude to troll.

On the topic, the trust page is not suitable for any form of discussion. Questionable behaviour can not be argued on it. A reputation thread allows for this. The trust page can not replace reputation threads. Hence, I am against your proposal. Please add my quote to the OP in the against section.  Tongue

[1]Are you provoked yet?
Might as well call anyone you don't like a troll because if they say something to you that you don't like, yeah, they're a troll to you.
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I'm a cynic, I'm a quaint
December 08, 2015, 07:41:58 PM
#58

''should we stop discussing other users publicly, and limit the discussion to just their trust rank page?'' Now he says he is not against freedom of speech, he should lock the thread otherwise he is contradicting himself. By the way, trolling, like you do is baneable in this forum, be careful.




The definition of trolling is posting deliberately rude comments on the internet to provoke angry reactions. I've never done that. I would understand if I said "YOU ARE STUPID, ANNOYING, AND YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND ANYTHING" being considered as trolling.

Me calmy pointing out opinions and facts is not. You on the other hand happen to be too sensitive, which means you at some point will be banned for falsely reporting comments.

The ignore feature is there for a reason. I suggest you use it.

Let's get our definitions right, shall we? [1]

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/trolling

Quote
7.
Digital Technology. Informal.
to post inflammatory or inappropriate messages or comments on (the Internet, especially a message board) for the purpose of upsetting other users and provoking a response.
to upset or provoke (other users) by posting such messages or comments.

No need to be rude to troll.

On the topic, the trust page is not suitable for any form of discussion. Questionable behaviour can not be argued on it. A reputation thread allows for this. The trust page can not replace reputation threads. Hence, I am against your proposal. Please add my quote to the OP in the against section.  Tongue

[1]Are you provoked yet?
hero member
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December 08, 2015, 06:26:39 PM
#57

''should we stop discussing other users publicly, and limit the discussion to just their trust rank page?'' Now he says he is not against freedom of speech, he should lock the thread otherwise he is contradicting himself. By the way, trolling, like you do is baneable in this forum, be careful.




The definition of trolling is posting deliberately rude comments on the internet to provoke angry reactions. I've never done that. I would understand if I said "YOU ARE STUPID, ANNOYING, AND YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND ANYTHING" being considered as trolling.

Me calmy pointing out opinions and facts is not. You on the other hand happen to be too sensitive, which means you at some point will be banned for falsely reporting comments.

The ignore feature is there for a reason. I suggest you use it.
Haha nice comeback.

To answer Xin though, I am not against freedom of speech. I am against drama....

If I was against freedom of speech, I would have just told them to remove the trust system all together.
hero member
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December 02, 2015, 07:33:02 PM
#56
The trust system is set up so that everyone cooperates with those in control of it and fights with every one else for status within it. As long as we have the trust system with default trust there will be 24/7 infighting until this forum is just 4chan with an extensive research library.
....lol.


Such an educated post with a hint of humor. The trust option is fine by me.
legendary
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First Exclusion Ever
December 02, 2015, 07:12:08 PM
#55
The trust system is set up so that everyone cooperates with those in control of it and fights with every one else for status within it. As long as we have the trust system with default trust there will be 24/7 infighting until this forum is just 4chan with an extensive research library.
newbie
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December 02, 2015, 07:05:03 PM
#54

''should we stop discussing other users publicly, and limit the discussion to just their trust rank page?'' Now he says he is not against freedom of speech, he should lock the thread otherwise he is contradicting himself. By the way, trolling, like you do is baneable in this forum, be careful.




The definition of trolling is posting deliberately rude comments on the internet to provoke angry reactions. I've never done that. I would understand if I said "YOU ARE STUPID, ANNOYING, AND YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND ANYTHING" being considered as trolling.

Me calmy pointing out opinions and facts is not. You on the other hand happen to be too sensitive, which means you at some point will be banned for falsely reporting comments.

The ignore feature is there for a reason. I suggest you use it.
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