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Quote from: 5ick3uffalo on June 28, 2015, 02:36:23 AM

Nope, it will be carry the latest tech possible with free shipping.

IF he is so generous to provide a free shipping as well as latest tech on the boards then he wouldnt need to ask for the nonsense fee anymore. The fact that he is asking for the fees is that he got no more BTC to continue his ponzi operation. Instead of generousity from Chris , what the community receive is nothing but another dissapointment for months. He wouldnt need to ask for nonsense fee instead if he is really "mining" especially with his gen2 boards though. I have doubt myself that even gen2 is real.

Quote from: 5ick3uffalo on June 28, 2015, 02:36:23 AM

I have full faith in beekeeper.

Quit having faith in a human, have some faith in God instead and hope that Chris dont provide another dissapointment. This is another reason why he isnt jailed yet. People trust him, have faith on him and give him the benefit of doubt. Instead of doing all this useless stuff and wait for another dissapointment , it is better to make him go to jail instead and so we can all move on from this bad dreams

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Quote from: 5ick3uffalo on June 28, 2015, 02:36:23 AM

Quote from: jackbox on June 28, 2015, 12:55:42 AM

Quote from: 5ick3uffalo on June 28, 2015, 12:51:15 AM

So we get a top-noch 50mh/s + ASIC board worth 1500 Dollars [/s]for 4000 shares.

Uh, lucky i not sold my account for a lousy 0.38BTC

New prize: 3.80BTC

No you get the right to pay for an outdated, useless piece of shit board. Once you pay the shipping he will never send it or send you something so obsolete it is no longer profitable to mine with it.

Nope, it will be carry the latest tech possible with free shipping.

With the LTC halving he have to come up with something BIG, I have full faith in beekeeper.

Jeez. What have you been smoking?

5ick3uffalo

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Quote from: jackbox on June 28, 2015, 12:55:42 AM

Quote from: 5ick3uffalo on June 28, 2015, 12:51:15 AM

So we get a top-noch 50mh/s + ASIC board worth 1500 Dollars [/s]for 4000 shares.

Uh, lucky i not sold my account for a lousy 0.38BTC

New prize: 3.80BTC

No you get the right to pay for an outdated, useless piece of shit board. Once you pay the shipping he will never send it or send you something so obsolete it is no longer profitable to mine with it.

Nope, it will be carry the latest tech possible with free shipping.

With the LTC halving he have to come up with something BIG, I have full faith in beekeeper.

jackbox

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Quote from: jadefalke on June 28, 2015, 01:22:22 AM

Quote from: jackbox on June 28, 2015, 12:55:42 AM

Quote from: 5ick3uffalo on June 28, 2015, 12:51:15 AM

So we get a top-noch 50mh/s + ASIC board worth 1500 Dollars [/s]for 4000 shares.

Uh, lucky i not sold my account for a lousy 0.38BTC

New prize: 3.80BTC

No you get the right to pay for an outdated, useless piece of shit board. Once you pay the shipping he will never send it or send you something so obsolete it is no longer profitable to mine with it.

No one knows how that Boards will look like, we can only wait for an Q&A or News Update in Regards to the Boards.
Soon TM...

Keep waiting....

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Quote from: jackbox on June 28, 2015, 12:55:42 AM

Quote from: 5ick3uffalo on June 28, 2015, 12:51:15 AM

So we get a top-noch 50mh/s + ASIC board worth 1500 Dollars [/s]for 4000 shares.

Uh, lucky i not sold my account for a lousy 0.38BTC

New prize: 3.80BTC

No you get the right to pay for an outdated, useless piece of shit board. Once you pay the shipping he will never send it or send you something so obsolete it is no longer profitable to mine with it.

No one knows how that Boards will look like, we can only wait for an Q&A or News Update in Regards to the Boards.
Soon TM...

jackbox

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Quote from: 5ick3uffalo on June 28, 2015, 12:51:15 AM

So we get a top-noch 50mh/s + ASIC board worth 1500 Dollars [/s]for 4000 shares.

Uh, lucky i not sold my account for a lousy 0.38BTC

New prize: 3.80BTC

No you get the right to pay for an outdated, useless piece of shit board. Once you pay the shipping he will never send it or send you something so obsolete it is no longer profitable to mine with it.

5ick3uffalo

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So we get a top-noch 50mh/s + ASIC board worth 1500 Dollars [/s]for 4000 shares.

Uh, lucky i not sold my account for a lousy 0.38BTC

New prize: 3.80BTC

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Quote from: sluppy on June 27, 2015, 10:27:48 AM

Quote from: miri94 on June 27, 2015, 10:11:34 AM

@above:
1) the math is wrong, it is 10 shares that is why you are off by 10x

2) he cannot give a date because Alpha-t have not released it yet

3) his chips" or someone else's is not an issue, he can have his name printed on them at factory.

4) agreed no one has seen the mining farm and only a very stupid person would believe he was actually mining (vis. no change in hashing and difficulty), albeit when he announced 2nd Gen there was still hope crypto and Bitmaintech (L?) were still working on a Scrypt ship (official story is they stopped but who knows)

5) X11, neo-scrypt, scrypt and blah non-issue: when and if you mine you can convert immediately to whatever coin you want, equivalent to having mined the algo, well with the detrimental effect of economics on the coin being plundered.

6) he stole a lot of money the least he can do is shipping jail away from his neck; he is a thief not an idiot. Lots of shill accounts will say they paid for shipping, won't stop my police report.

Explain How the Math is wrong ?

4000 qasics = 1 unit now where is the math error?

I have seen Fpga boards that where shipped by cris , they are very obsolete at this time but at one point he did ship Fpga boards.
I have no proof if he build them or not just the thats where the people i got them from said they bought them but this was at least a year ago that they bought them probably longer.

They were Called Scriptor, they had some FPGA on it and Chris wrote a Software for them. You could also do a Trade in when they became obsolete.

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Quote from: miri94 on June 27, 2015, 10:11:34 AM

@above:
1) the math is wrong, it is 10 shares that is why you are off by 10x

2) he cannot give a date because Alpha-t have not released it yet

3) his chips" or someone else's is not an issue, he can have his name printed on them at factory.

4) agreed no one has seen the mining farm and only a very stupid person would believe he was actually mining (vis. no change in hashing and difficulty), albeit when he announced 2nd Gen there was still hope crypto and Bitmaintech (L?) were still working on a Scrypt ship (official story is they stopped but who knows)

5) X11, neo-scrypt, scrypt and blah non-issue: when and if you mine you can convert immediately to whatever coin you want, equivalent to having mined the algo, well with the detrimental effect of economics on the coin being plundered.

6) he stole a lot of money the least he can do is shipping jail away from his neck; he is a thief not an idiot. Lots of shill accounts will say they paid for shipping, won't stop my police report.

Explain How the Math is wrong ?

4000 qasics = 1 unit now where is the math error?

I have seen Fpga boards that where shipped by cris , they are very obsolete at this time but at one point he did ship Fpga boards.
I have no proof if he build them or not just the thats where the people i got them from said they bought them but this was at least a year ago that they bought them probably longer.

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Quote from: miri94 on June 27, 2015, 10:11:34 AM

@above:
1) the math is wrong, it is 10 shares that is why you are off by 10x

2) he cannot give a date because Alpha-t have not released it yet

3) his chips" or someone else's is not an issue, he can have his name printed on them at factory.

4) agreed no one has seen the mining farm and only a very stupid person would believe he was actually mining (vis. no change in hashing and difficulty), albeit when he announced 2nd Gen there was still hope crypto and Bitmaintech (L?) were still working on a Scrypt ship (official story is they stopped but who knows)

5) X11, neo-scrypt, scrypt and blah non-issue: when and if you mine you can convert immediately to whatever coin you want, equivalent to having mined the algo, well with the detrimental effect of economics on the coin being plundered.

6) he stole a lot of money the least he can do is shipping jail away from his neck; he is a thief not an idiot. Lots of shill accounts will say they paid for shipping, won't stop my police report.

Your Police Report will change nothing, but feel free to go ahead.

miri94

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@above:
1) the math is wrong, it is 10 shares that is why you are off by 10x

2) he cannot give a date because Alpha-t have not released it yet

3) his chips" or someone else's is not an issue, he can have his name printed on them at factory.

4) agreed no one has seen the mining farm and only a very stupid person would believe he was actually mining (vis. no change in hashing and difficulty), albeit when he announced 2nd Gen there was still hope crypto and Bitmaintech (L?) were still working on a Scrypt ship (official story is they stopped but who knows)

5) X11, neo-scrypt, scrypt and blah non-issue: when and if you mine you can convert immediately to whatever coin you want, equivalent to having mined the algo, well with the detrimental effect of economics on the coin being plundered.

6) he stole a lot of money the least he can do is shipping jail away from his neck; he is a thief not an idiot. Lots of shill accounts will say they paid for shipping, won't stop my police report.

jadefalke

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yeah looks like that something happend, during last Q+A Chris said that gen2 are on the Way and on Track.

jackbox

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Quote from: jadefalke on June 27, 2015, 09:05:59 AM

Quote from: sluppy on June 27, 2015, 08:39:00 AM

each Unit "should" be 400mh not 40 hes "converting" 4000 shares Per unit so that translates to 400mh not 40 .

I agree with everyone saying there is no reason to trust Cris or send him another penny for shipping or anything else.

IF i would get paid for the last 7 months id happily remain a customer of his and even pay the outragious Fee but i do NOT expect this to happen.

The conversion deal also really fucks over people with Dual mods whats that about ? *give me my F****** Dash u **** ************.

not only Dual mod Conversion is a Joke, Gen2 Pre-Shares Conversion Rate is also really ugly...

And this is further evidence that Gen 2 never existed. If Gen 2 was online and mining he would not be taking them away to give you some bullshit hardware that, if it actually exists, is no longer profitable to mine. Gen 2 was just a way, unfortunately, to suck more money out of all of us fucking suckers.

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Quote from: sluppy on June 27, 2015, 08:39:00 AM

each Unit "should" be 400mh not 40 hes "converting" 4000 shares Per unit so that translates to 400mh not 40 .

I agree with everyone saying there is no reason to trust Cris or send him another penny for shipping or anything else.

IF i would get paid for the last 7 months id happily remain a customer of his and even pay the outragious Fee but i do NOT expect this to happen.

The conversion deal also really fucks over people with Dual mods whats that about ? *give me my F****** Dash u **** ************.

not only Dual mod Conversion is a Joke, Gen2 Pre-Shares Conversion Rate is also really ugly...

arallmuus

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Quote from: crazyivan on June 27, 2015, 07:16:46 AM

Quote from: arallmuus on June 27, 2015, 07:09:58 AM

Quote from: crazyivan on June 27, 2015, 06:53:13 AM

What are you people talking about? Characteristics of what? Miners? What miners?

So I'll summarize the whole important thing for you. Not clear what miners yet but Chris offered everyone an "exit" strategy for those who dont want to pay the nonsense maintenance fee to reactivate weekly payout anymore. This "exit" strategy converts your shares as well as the 2nd gen to an ASIC boards , which has no clarification yet on what kind of miner is it . Also that it is not even clear yet about the shipping fee or the other stuff and it will be all revealed on the Q&A that has been promised 3 weeks ago( you can expect it to be much longer )

Some people made a guess on what type of miner it will be so here it is( post above yours but requote it and deleted some words on it ). Highly unlikely that it will be Vipers but Chris mentioned a few times in the past that he used his own chips and make his own boards so we can expect something similar or it could be totally different.

This is pretty much grey area because people are left without any explanation nor clues on what is going on. I suspect that It will be weeks before the Q&A and it will be months later before the shipping ( if he really decided to ship them off , I doubt that this is another stalling strategy from Chris )

Quote from: miri94 on June 26, 2015, 11:19:18 PM

47 pre-gen 2 units converted to 1 ASIC unit and there are 23 2nd Gen shares left.

well we know at least one thing: each 10 shares are the equivalent of 30 Radeon 290 Lyra2RE .

So his 1 unit ASIC must be 47/30 = 1.5 x 30 = 45 MHs = one 50 MHs unit from Alpha Tenchology Viper (Alpha-t.net):

https://alpha-t.net/product/scrypt-asic-miner/

The 50 MHs unit is underperforming according to tests and is running at 45 MHs

Thx for you summary but I ask the same question again, WHAT MINERS? Nobody has ever seen any miner designed by Chris, no blockchain proof of mining, no hash fluctuations when he promised to switch his "farm" off. All in all, not a single credible piece of evidence about mining. So, discussing about characteristics and delivery of non-existing mining is wasting of your time and energy. That man has broken every promise he has ever given to us and you discuss about him shipping ASIC boards to you? Huh

WTF.

ahh I didnt realized that you mean to ask this for sarcasm, I thought you are asking question as you dont know how thing has progressed up here . As for the bolded part, I've read it somewhere in litecointalk that Chris used to sell physical miners to few forum member instead of offering cloud *ponzi* mining but It seems I lost track on it

Quote from: jackbox on June 27, 2015, 08:13:50 AM

if there is any possible way to get his ass thrown in jail.

There is, only if some Romanian victim goes to knock his front door but I didnt see any latest action regarding this ever since the report of someone had his account cleared with 1 LTC balance in it

Quote from: sluppy on June 27, 2015, 08:39:00 AM

IF i would get paid for the last 7 months id happily remain a customer of his and even pay the outragious Fee but i do NOT expect this to happen.

Everyone here is falling into depression. We have waited months for him even let him have the benefit of doubt but again he dissapoint us with all this nonsense . No one will be paid, I can almost ensure this because if he really intend to pay us up then he would have done so few weeks ago but the fact is that the nonsense fee is only to resume mining

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each Unit "should" be 400mh not 40 hes "converting" 4000 shares Per unit so that translates to 400mh not 40 .

I agree with everyone saying there is no reason to trust Cris or send him another penny for shipping or anything else.

IF i would get paid for the last 7 months id happily remain a customer of his and even pay the outragious Fee but i do NOT expect this to happen.

The conversion deal also really fucks over people with Dual mods whats that about ? *give me my F****** Dash u **** ************.

jackbox

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Quote from: crazyivan on June 27, 2015, 07:16:46 AM

Quote from: arallmuus on June 27, 2015, 07:09:58 AM

Quote from: crazyivan on June 27, 2015, 06:53:13 AM

What are you people talking about? Characteristics of what? Miners? What miners?

So I'll summarize the whole important thing for you. Not clear what miners yet but Chris offered everyone an "exit" strategy for those who dont want to pay the nonsense maintenance fee to reactivate weekly payout anymore. This "exit" strategy converts your shares as well as the 2nd gen to an ASIC boards , which has no clarification yet on what kind of miner is it . Also that it is not even clear yet about the shipping fee or the other stuff and it will be all revealed on the Q&A that has been promised 3 weeks ago( you can expect it to be much longer )

Some people made a guess on what type of miner it will be so here it is( post above yours but requote it and deleted some words on it ). Highly unlikely that it will be Vipers but Chris mentioned a few times in the past that he used his own chips and make his own boards so we can expect something similar or it could be totally different.

This is pretty much grey area because people are left without any explanation nor clues on what is going on. I suspect that It will be weeks before the Q&A and it will be months later before the shipping ( if he really decided to ship them off , I doubt that this is another stalling strategy from Chris )

Quote from: miri94 on June 26, 2015, 11:19:18 PM

47 pre-gen 2 units converted to 1 ASIC unit and there are 23 2nd Gen shares left.

well we know at least one thing: each 10 shares are the equivalent of 30 Radeon 290 Lyra2RE .

So his 1 unit ASIC must be 47/30 = 1.5 x 30 = 45 MHs = one 50 MHs unit from Alpha Tenchology Viper (Alpha-t.net):

https://alpha-t.net/product/scrypt-asic-miner/

The 50 MHs unit is underperforming according to tests and is running at 45 MHs

Thx for you summary but I ask the same question again, WHAT MINERS? Nobody has ever seen any miner designed by Chris, no blockchain proof of mining, no hash fluctuations when he promised to switch his "farm" off. All in all, not a single credible piece of evidence about mining. So, discussing about characteristics and delivery of non-existing mining is wasting of your time and energy. That man has broken every promise he has ever given to us and you discuss about him shipping ASIC boards to you? Huh

WTF.

Exactly, well put. Discussing anything about what sociopath scammer "Chris," the Shitkeeper, will do is utterly nonsense. People should be discussing if there is any possible way to get his ass thrown in jail.

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Quote from: arallmuus on June 27, 2015, 07:09:58 AM

Quote from: crazyivan on June 27, 2015, 06:53:13 AM

What are you people talking about? Characteristics of what? Miners? What miners?

So I'll summarize the whole important thing for you. Not clear what miners yet but Chris offered everyone an "exit" strategy for those who dont want to pay the nonsense maintenance fee to reactivate weekly payout anymore. This "exit" strategy converts your shares as well as the 2nd gen to an ASIC boards , which has no clarification yet on what kind of miner is it . Also that it is not even clear yet about the shipping fee or the other stuff and it will be all revealed on the Q&A that has been promised 3 weeks ago( you can expect it to be much longer )

Some people made a guess on what type of miner it will be so here it is( post above yours but requote it and deleted some words on it ). Highly unlikely that it will be Vipers but Chris mentioned a few times in the past that he used his own chips and make his own boards so we can expect something similar or it could be totally different.

This is pretty much grey area because people are left without any explanation nor clues on what is going on. I suspect that It will be weeks before the Q&A and it will be months later before the shipping ( if he really decided to ship them off , I doubt that this is another stalling strategy from Chris )

Quote from: miri94 on June 26, 2015, 11:19:18 PM

47 pre-gen 2 units converted to 1 ASIC unit and there are 23 2nd Gen shares left.

well we know at least one thing: each 10 shares are the equivalent of 30 Radeon 290 Lyra2RE .

So his 1 unit ASIC must be 47/30 = 1.5 x 30 = 45 MHs = one 50 MHs unit from Alpha Tenchology Viper (Alpha-t.net):

https://alpha-t.net/product/scrypt-asic-miner/

The 50 MHs unit is underperforming according to tests and is running at 45 MHs

Thx for you summary but I ask the same question again, WHAT MINERS? Nobody has ever seen any miner designed by Chris, no blockchain proof of mining, no hash fluctuations when he promised to switch his "farm" off. All in all, not a single credible piece of evidence about mining. So, discussing about characteristics and delivery of non-existing mining is wasting of your time and energy. That man has broken every promise he has ever given to us and you discuss about him shipping ASIC boards to you? Huh

WTF.

arallmuus

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Quote from: crazyivan on June 27, 2015, 06:53:13 AM

What are you people talking about? Characteristics of what? Miners? What miners?

So I'll summarize the whole important thing for you. Not clear what miners yet but Chris offered everyone an "exit" strategy for those who dont want to pay the nonsense maintenance fee to reactivate weekly payout anymore. This "exit" strategy converts your shares as well as the 2nd gen to an ASIC boards , which has no clarification yet on what kind of miner is it . Also that it is not even clear yet about the shipping fee or the other stuff and it will be all revealed on the Q&A that has been promised 3 weeks ago( you can expect it to be much longer )

Some people made a guess on what type of miner it will be so here it is( post above yours but requote it and deleted some words on it ). Highly unlikely that it will be Vipers but Chris mentioned a few times in the past that he used his own chips and make his own boards so we can expect something similar or it could be totally different.

This is pretty much grey area because people are left without any explanation nor clues on what is going on. I suspect that It will be weeks before the Q&A and it will be months later before the shipping ( if he really decided to ship them off , I doubt that this is another stalling strategy from Chris )

Quote from: miri94 on June 26, 2015, 11:19:18 PM

47 pre-gen 2 units converted to 1 ASIC unit and there are 23 2nd Gen shares left.

well we know at least one thing: each 10 shares are the equivalent of 30 Radeon 290 Lyra2RE .

So his 1 unit ASIC must be 47/30 = 1.5 x 30 = 45 MHs = one 50 MHs unit from Alpha Tenchology Viper (Alpha-t.net):

https://alpha-t.net/product/scrypt-asic-miner/

The 50 MHs unit is underperforming according to tests and is running at 45 MHs

jackbox

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Quote from: crazyivan on June 27, 2015, 06:53:13 AM

What are you people talking about? Characteristics of what? Miners? What miners?

Fantasy outdated, useless hardware sociopath Chris is going to send them. He deducted everyone's account for hardware that you will have to pay shipping for and then never get.

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