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Totscha

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Quote from: Hermann1337 on June 03, 2015, 06:37:58 AM

there seem to be people getting payouts without having paid the maintenance fee. so balance payout seems to be not connected with the fee.
fee ist just for further weekly payouts.
plz dont feel motivated to pay the fee after looking in this thread

https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=25647.0

Emmmm. Please provide the link to the exact post where someone said they got payout without paying fees.

I've been following things closely and never saw that... Wink

Hermann1337

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there seem to be people getting payouts without having paid the maintenance fee. so balance payout seems to be not connected with the fee.
fee ist just for further weekly payouts.
plz dont feel motivated to pay the fee after looking in this thread

https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=25647.0

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Quote from: Oldminer on June 02, 2015, 05:47:25 PM

Whats being inferred over in the Litecointalk forum is that balances currently owed will appear once all accounts are cleared, that we will be able to withdraw from, and pay the fee from, to continue mining. If this isnt a ponzi its the only viable solution I can think of that will fix this mess.

I find it odd however that he can work out what we owe him before he is able to work out what he owes us.

Technically, he already knows what he owes the customers since the system tracks the weekly payout per share (or should be tracking it). The BTC/LTC just doesn't show up as a balance that can be withdrawn.

Further update - https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=25734.msg263234
Another person paid a small fee and was able to receive weekly payouts + withdrawal. Still nothing for the missing 6 months of payouts.

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lol

Oldminer

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Whats being inferred over in the Litecointalk forum is that balances currently owed will appear once all accounts are cleared, that we will be able to withdraw from, and pay the fee from, to continue mining. If this isnt a ponzi its the only viable solution I can think of that will fix this mess.

I find it odd however that he can work out what we owe him before he is able to work out what he owes us.

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Just finally got my notice to pay about 19 BTC to continue. LOL.

Yea, not doing that.

Next option?

FOR ONE THING....

I bought a MAJORITY of mine, RIGHT before he stopped paying... So I have to pay a yearly fee on something even though I never got paid from it once??

How does this make any sense.

Try again Chris.

Anxiously awaiting the next scam attempt...

alienesb

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I think this will be payable by coins owed, I mean come on, how can anyone expect people to pay 900 or 400 BTC for this? It's so outlandish that there has to be more to come we don't know about yet.

I thought people would be over the whole mad at Chris thing by now but I guess not. I wrote this off months ago and if I get my coins, even a percentage of them, I will be one happy mother fucker.

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LOL so apparently I need to pay this clown 55BTC to resume mining, which is approximately $10k, which is roughly the equivalent of the total sum I invested!

Course I wont be paying this thief 1 red cent.

He must be high on coke or something from all the filthy money he stole to put this proposal forward....

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Quote from: arallmuus on June 02, 2015, 06:52:33 AM

It seems it could be his tactics to do so. Makes me wonder how can people still trust him despite that he has tricked us for months and after months of waiting, what we have in our account is not our balance despite it is a fee that we must pay in order to resume weekly payment .
Big question mark will be where is our earning from the previous months that he should have pay us instead of asking us an upfront payment like this. Those who sent him the fee must have no clear mind of this thought

Yes. Essentially we are still in the same position we were in 3 months, 4 months, 5 months ago. Until there is an actual accessible balance it's still in 100% scam territory for me. And I still don't think we'll ever see a withdraw-able balance (of the last 5 months of payments anyway).

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I logged on my account after months, apparently i have to pay 6btc to resumen payments, this is insane guys, no way i am paying this.

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Quote from: Flep182 on June 02, 2015, 06:35:44 AM

Quote from: arallmuus on June 02, 2015, 03:21:10 AM

Quote from: Gws24 on June 01, 2015, 02:17:49 PM

so basically 2 guys paid the fee and for both weekly payouts resumed. If only my account wasn't still pending and I could pay the fee...... lol

From reading the whole discussion in litecointalk, It seems like the weekly payout resume but the previously owed coins is not in the balance. Furthermore it seems like you can pay the "fee" gradually and the fee will keep on decreasing depending on whats left for your account.

Whats funny is that there is no TX ID of him paying the 16 BTC fee ( or I could have missed it ) seems bogus to me. With the 16 BTC fee, he (chris) could have resume his ponzi and only dissapear like 5 months later after he got no more funds to pay it again

P.S : anyone have a small account that have a small fee on it? Would like to try it and see if the weekly payout is indeed resuming

Where did you see about the gradually fee payment? If you pay, lets say 10%, will you get 10% of the payouts weekly until you pay more of the fee?

That would be fucking amazing if it was in the system.

Unfortunately, as others have said, the full fee must be paid in order to get weekly payouts again. At least it isn't as bad as taking a loan out from a bank.

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Quote from: jackbox on June 02, 2015, 04:44:22 AM

Quote from: arallmuus on June 02, 2015, 03:21:10 AM

Quote from: Gws24 on June 01, 2015, 02:17:49 PM

so basically 2 guys paid the fee and for both weekly payouts resumed. If only my account wasn't still pending and I could pay the fee...... lol

From reading the whole discussion in litecointalk, It seems like the weekly payout resume but the previously owed coins is not in the balance. Furthermore it seems like you can pay the "fee" gradually and the fee will keep on decreasing depending on whats left for your account.

Whats funny is that there is no TX ID of him paying the 16 BTC fee ( or I could have missed it ) seems bogus to me. With the 16 BTC fee, he (chris) could have resume his ponzi and only dissapear like 5 months later after he got no more funds to pay it again

P.S : anyone have a small account that have a small fee on it? Would like to try it and see if the weekly payout is indeed resuming

If he is paying anything it is just a ponzi scam. He will payout some small fish so they tell everyone they are getting paid again, then us regular and big fish pay huge payments and then nothing happens again. Anyone who pays him any more money when he owes people a fortune is a moron and deserves to lose everything he sends to the scammer.

It seems it could be his tactics to do so. Makes me wonder how can people still trust him despite that he has tricked us for months and after months of waiting, what we have in our account is not our balance despite it is a fee that we must pay in order to resume weekly payment .
Big question mark will be where is our earning from the previous months that he should have pay us instead of asking us an upfront payment like this. Those who sent him the fee must have no clear mind of this thought

Quote from: Flep182 on June 02, 2015, 06:35:44 AM

Where did you see about the gradually fee payment? If you pay, lets say 10%, will you get 10% of the payouts weekly until you pay more of the fee?

Sorry I meant to say pay the fee in smaller installments option ( pardon my lame English ) . If you have 0.01 BTC fee and paid 0.001 BTC then all you need to pay will be only 0.009 BTC

Totscha

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Quote from: Flep182 on June 02, 2015, 06:35:44 AM

Quote from: arallmuus on June 02, 2015, 03:21:10 AM

Quote from: Gws24 on June 01, 2015, 02:17:49 PM

so basically 2 guys paid the fee and for both weekly payouts resumed. If only my account wasn't still pending and I could pay the fee...... lol

From reading the whole discussion in litecointalk, It seems like the weekly payout resume but the previously owed coins is not in the balance. Furthermore it seems like you can pay the "fee" gradually and the fee will keep on decreasing depending on whats left for your account.

Whats funny is that there is no TX ID of him paying the 16 BTC fee ( or I could have missed it ) seems bogus to me. With the 16 BTC fee, he (chris) could have resume his ponzi and only dissapear like 5 months later after he got no more funds to pay it again

P.S : anyone have a small account that have a small fee on it? Would like to try it and see if the weekly payout is indeed resuming

Where did you see about the gradually fee payment? If you pay, lets say 10%, will you get 10% of the payouts weekly until you pay more of the fee?

I'd rather be waiting for a clear picture from the Q&A before dumping more money into it. Let alone that my accounts aren't active at all yet Wink

No, you can pay the fee in several separate payments. That's all. You get nothing until you pay the full amount Wink

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Quote from: arallmuus on June 02, 2015, 03:21:10 AM

Quote from: Gws24 on June 01, 2015, 02:17:49 PM

so basically 2 guys paid the fee and for both weekly payouts resumed. If only my account wasn't still pending and I could pay the fee...... lol

From reading the whole discussion in litecointalk, It seems like the weekly payout resume but the previously owed coins is not in the balance. Furthermore it seems like you can pay the "fee" gradually and the fee will keep on decreasing depending on whats left for your account.

Whats funny is that there is no TX ID of him paying the 16 BTC fee ( or I could have missed it ) seems bogus to me. With the 16 BTC fee, he (chris) could have resume his ponzi and only dissapear like 5 months later after he got no more funds to pay it again

P.S : anyone have a small account that have a small fee on it? Would like to try it and see if the weekly payout is indeed resuming

Where did you see about the gradually fee payment? If you pay, lets say 10%, will you get 10% of the payouts weekly until you pay more of the fee?

I'd rather be waiting for a clear picture from the Q&A before dumping more money into it. Let alone that my accounts aren't active at all yet Wink

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thinking out loud...
Actually, looking closely this is what other cloudmining services have been doing all the time. They were trusted more because they took money from you regularly. This looks more scammy because you received all the money and now you have to pay some of it back. Whereas in other cases they took it from you without asking for it. Either could be a scam Roll Eyes

Funny how all services get away with this. You pay for the hardware in the first place that they buy and then you pay for the depreciation cost of the hardware as "maintenance fee" as well, which practically allows the provider to buy new hardware if one breaks down for no self-cost. It's paid by the user. The users are the product. (You, the provider, buy hardware for 1000$, users buy it from you in terms of shares. They slowly pay another 1000$ for you so when it breaks down, you do it all over again. Plus add a small %)

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My shares are still just pending, although I don't think it makes a difference.

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Quote from: arallmuus on June 02, 2015, 03:21:10 AM

Quote from: Gws24 on June 01, 2015, 02:17:49 PM

so basically 2 guys paid the fee and for both weekly payouts resumed. If only my account wasn't still pending and I could pay the fee...... lol

From reading the whole discussion in litecointalk, It seems like the weekly payout resume but the previously owed coins is not in the balance. Furthermore it seems like you can pay the "fee" gradually and the fee will keep on decreasing depending on whats left for your account.

Whats funny is that there is no TX ID of him paying the 16 BTC fee ( or I could have missed it ) seems bogus to me. With the 16 BTC fee, he (chris) could have resume his ponzi and only dissapear like 5 months later after he got no more funds to pay it again

P.S : anyone have a small account that have a small fee on it? Would like to try it and see if the weekly payout is indeed resuming

If he is paying anything it is just a ponzi scam. He will payout some small fish so they tell everyone they are getting paid again, then us regular and big fish pay huge payments and then nothing happens again. Anyone who pays him any more money when he owes people a fortune is a moron and deserves to lose everything he sends to the scammer.

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Quote from: Gws24 on June 01, 2015, 02:17:49 PM

so basically 2 guys paid the fee and for both weekly payouts resumed. If only my account wasn't still pending and I could pay the fee...... lol

From reading the whole discussion in litecointalk, It seems like the weekly payout resume but the previously owed coins is not in the balance. Furthermore it seems like you can pay the "fee" gradually and the fee will keep on decreasing depending on whats left for your account.

Whats funny is that there is no TX ID of him paying the 16 BTC fee ( or I could have missed it ) seems bogus to me. With the 16 BTC fee, he (chris) could have resume his ponzi and only dissapear like 5 months later after he got no more funds to pay it again

P.S : anyone have a small account that have a small fee on it? Would like to try it and see if the weekly payout is indeed resuming

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and here is the guy (the topic starter of the same thread you refer to) who paid 16 btc*: https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=25647.msg268654#msg268654 Wink

so that is why some people are confused about the 'not really' comment.

and coins in his wallet: https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=25647.msg268711#msg268711 or so he says; no txid or anything

so basically 2 guys paid the fee and for both weekly payouts resumed. If only my account wasn't still pending and I could pay the fee...... lol

*he (leodio) says he manages the account for a friend who decided to pay

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Quote from: Danz0r77 on June 01, 2015, 08:51:30 AM

Quote from: Flep182 on June 01, 2015, 07:31:52 AM

Quote from: Danz0r77 on June 01, 2015, 05:34:56 AM

Quote from: rammy2k2 on June 01, 2015, 04:03:13 AM

Quote from: verloren on May 31, 2015, 09:18:20 AM

Quote from: jackbox on May 31, 2015, 07:57:30 AM

Quote from: Flep182 on May 31, 2015, 07:26:07 AM

Quote from: rammy2k2 on May 31, 2015, 04:22:48 AM

Quote from: Oldminer on May 30, 2015, 04:03:54 PM

Most definitely people should NOT be sending him any more money.

If he has been mining he can take the fees out of the money he owes us. This would be the simple, easy way to deal with the fees. The fact he hasnt chosen this option suggests he doesnt have anything to pay anyone.

I just hope the people currently looking for him, find him.

They did find him, but that didnt changed anything

One person got paid out 1 LTC, which wasn't the amount owned, but showed that the "widget" had more in it than just plain text.

Doesn't prove anything. Just proves Chris put balance 1 LTC and then sent him one LTC when he "requested" it.

One guy on LTCTalk has posted saying he paid the maint fee (apparently really small) and weekly payouts resumed.

link please ?

Wasn't a small amount, I think he paid a 16BTC fee - no past balance was received but a weekly amount was added.

https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=25647.0

Not really

Not really what? Confused

Ah, for some reason my post didn't get through fully, I think firefox crashed this afternoon.

Well, here is a guy who paid for 8 shares: https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=25647.msg268760#msg268760

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Quote from: RD965 on June 01, 2015, 09:16:23 AM

Quote from: alienesb on June 01, 2015, 05:47:27 AM

Quote from: RD965 on June 01, 2015, 05:41:36 AM

Is this thing still alive? I fell for other cloud mining scam and Im quite sure is related to this one closing...

Dont want to bring any discussion just some sum up info

I don't think Amhash had anything to do with this if that is what you are implying. Not everything is a conspiracy.

It wasnt just AMHASH unfortunately, other sites like Chabatmining where related to it

Yeah but obvious scam was obvious from Chabat. Anyway, yeah this is still limping along.

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