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June 19, 2023, 01:00:08 PM
#29
This is basically just what the whales love, and if you are asking why they are rich and you are not, this is why. They are smart, they see bitcoin going down and think that it is cheap to buy at this price, whereas there are many retail investors who see it go down, and they sell even more.

I think it is obvious that we are not going to see all that much change on the long run, it is going to be a profitable thing to hold bitcoin, sometimes you make a profit in a day, sometimes it takes years, but in the end we all do. This is why it is quite important to just have bitcoin and keep holding it, that's how you make a profit. I do believe that it will take a while before retail investors realizes this, but some of us at least are aware of it, hope more will get there.

As you said, we are aware of this situation and the number of people who are aware of it is increasing day by day.

They do this all the time and the individual investor always falls into this trap. There is no point in selling bitcoin unless there is an urgent need. There's a lot of news, but bitcoin is holding up. I can't understand what they saw, heard and sold their bitcoins. You want to buy a product in the market at a classically low price. So you need to lower the price first. This is what they are doing now.

Those who sell their bitcoins are trying to buy bitcoins more expensive than the price they sell in a short time. Don't sell and keep holding.
legendary
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June 19, 2023, 09:31:23 AM
#28
This is basically just what the whales love, and if you are asking why they are rich and you are not, this is why. They are smart, they see bitcoin going down and think that it is cheap to buy at this price, whereas there are many retail investors who see it go down, and they sell even more.

I think it is obvious that we are not going to see all that much change on the long run, it is going to be a profitable thing to hold bitcoin, sometimes you make a profit in a day, sometimes it takes years, but in the end we all do. This is why it is quite important to just have bitcoin and keep holding it, that's how you make a profit. I do believe that it will take a while before retail investors realizes this, but some of us at least are aware of it, hope more will get there.
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June 19, 2023, 05:54:45 AM
#27
I tend to agree.
Also, Blackrock wouldn't be buying Bitcoin even if that ETF had been approved.
The point of an ETF is to be balanced for the issuer. Such structures operate in a risk-neutral way: money in from the customers, money out to buy Bitcoin. There is no need to front-run the customers trying to profit from directionality.

It definitely makes sense from a risk position, although the public's perception (or at least some people) is that BlackRock will suddenly buy some crazy sum of BTC and thus start a big bull run. What remains to be seen is how the market would react to the first spot BTC ETF in the US (if approved), but a few days ago I saw one video showing that futures BTC ETF recorded a significant decline in 2022 and 2023 compared to the years before.



Exactly mate!
The majority of the people in the market now are strong hands and I don't think that anyone who understands the bitcoin market will be selling at this time. What actually I'm looking for is slight opportunity to top up and I saw it at 24k.

This is probably the case, although it should always be remembered that past events do not guarantee that the same will happen again in the future. The only certainty that will happen is halving, but there is always the question of whether it can cause the same effects as it did in the past.



As far as I know, Blackrock is a large company that has large holdings of Bitcoins. Although others are wondering when the value of Bitcoin will plummet one day and suddenly its price will pump up in the market.
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As far as I know BlackRock doesn't own Bitcoin and it's not on any list of public/private companies mentioned in that context, but what makes you think that's the case is the fact that BlackRock owns a 6.76% stake in MicroStrategy which owns 140 000 BTC.
legendary
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June 19, 2023, 12:37:55 AM
#26
This blackrock news is slightly bullish. Maybe when it’s actually approved we might get a rally but after the news came out the market barely moved. Then a few hours later there was a larger move and basically stalled right after.

Maybe if it’s approved and since it’s a spot etf, it might generate a rally because BTC would be taken off the market to supply the trust. However who knows when the decision will be made, could take many months.
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June 18, 2023, 09:43:14 PM
#25
A few day ago blackrock happy was buy cheap many btc in the market. Now, you are regret to sold it to big company which will be resold back to you with high price in the next years.

As far as I know, Blackrock is a large company that has large holdings of Bitcoins. Although others are wondering when the value of Bitcoin will plummet one day and suddenly its price will pump up in the market.

And because Blackrock has done this, a lot of speculation has come out, some say that the SEC already knows this will happen and others say it is actually meant for preparation for the upcoming bitcoin halving or bull run, although next year it will happen, quite some time from now. But when it is approved, it is certain that the value of Bitcoin will have a rally in the market and that is in our favor, so not now or next year.
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June 18, 2023, 05:09:34 PM
#24


Yes, that is true, but not everyone has the persistence to reach their goals. Some people are easily confused by how the bitcoin market reacts, especially when the price of bitcoin drops sharply. Many new investors rapidly worry and believe something bad may happen.However, some people sell up their Bitcoin holdings at a loss because, in some cases, they may need the money to deal with certain issues, and if they don't, they are left without a solution. If they have good reasons for doing so, however, I don't believe they should feel bad about it.infact some people are not only holding Bitcoin for only profit but also holding it to spend it.

The fact that we have weak hand in Bitcoin goes a long way to point to why we have those characteristics as you mentioned because most of those that sell their Bitcoin whether due to funds and panics or personal needs are all doing so because of their inability to resist the urge to of selling or have the liquidity that there can rely on when the need to spend raised.

The major challenge in this is that the seller will never leave to regret not holding for a longer time and this can be prevented by making adequate financial plans that can help cover up for situations such as this.
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June 18, 2023, 04:59:50 PM
#23
A few day ago blackrock happy was buy cheap many btc in the market. Now, you are regret to sold it to big company which will be resold back to you with a high price in the next years.
There will always be those that sell off their asset no matter what the future looks like and this set of people are just short-term spectators or hunters who are in for just the gain but if the price of the asset dropped significantly their easily get panic and sell at cheap rate then move on the next one not minding what the value of their sold coins will or have become.


Yes, that is true, but not everyone has the persistence to reach their goals. Some people are easily confused by how the bitcoin market reacts, especially when the price of bitcoin drops sharply. Many new investors rapidly worry and believe something bad may happen.However, some people sell up their Bitcoin holdings at a loss because, in some cases, they may need the money to deal with certain issues, and if they don't, they are left without a solution. If they have good reasons for doing so, however, I don't believe they should feel bad about it.infact some people are not only holding Bitcoin for only profit but also holding it to spend it.
rby
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June 18, 2023, 01:29:52 PM
#22
I didn't sell anything, and I believe that most of the forum members didn't sell anything significant these days - in fact, I think that many took advantage of the dip and bought BTC.
Exactly mate!
The majority of the people in the market now are strong hands and I don't think that anyone who understands the bitcoin market will be selling at this time. What actually I'm looking for is slight opportunity to top up and I saw it at 24k.
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The best opportunity for us is during the bottom last year of $15k. But in any case we see $20k-$24k for this year then that is still a big opportunity, in my opinion. The name of the of game right now is long term.
One thing is that only the strong hands also take advantage of the lowest. Some people who are fetish will believe there is a spirit that accompanies bitcoin. If at the end of today, bitcoin goes down to 15k, you will be surprised that the majority of the people will rather panic and sell off rather than accumulating. This is especially people whose money in Bitcoin has been budgeted for future expenses. It is in bitcoin the adage of the rich becoming richer is practicalized!
legendary
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June 18, 2023, 01:19:46 PM
#21
I didn't sell anything, and I believe that most of the forum members didn't sell anything significant these days - in fact, I think that many took advantage of the dip and bought BTC.
Exactly mate!
The majority of the people in the market now are strong hands and I don't think that anyone who understands the bitcoin market will be selling at this time. What actually I'm looking for is slight opportunity to top up and I saw it at 24k.

You're right, I'm not saying that I'm a strong hands or something, needless to say though, that we are not bothered as to what is going on behind. All we want to do is to continue to accumulate.

If ever those who have big capital was able to buy, then good for them. The best opportunity for us is during the bottom last year of $15k. But in any case we see $20k-$24k for this year then that is still a big opportunity, in my opinion. The name of the of game right now is long term.
rby
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June 18, 2023, 12:50:58 PM
#20
I didn't sell anything, and I believe that most of the forum members didn't sell anything significant these days - in fact, I think that many took advantage of the dip and bought BTC.
Exactly mate!
The majority of the people in the market now are strong hands and I don't think that anyone who understands the bitcoin market will be selling at this time. What actually I'm looking for is slight opportunity to top up and I saw it at 24k.
hero member
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June 18, 2023, 11:50:37 AM
#19
A few day ago blackrock happy was buy cheap many btc in the market. Now, you are regret to sold it to big company which will be resold back to you with high price in the next years.
This actually is a normal market phenomenon these big giants will always enter the market at these crucial points when no one is buying and everyone is ready to sell. They take advantage of the FUD and an average retail investor will unnecessarily sell its holding to these companies because of the huge fuzz they will create about how bad bitcoin is. I won't be surprised if they only first manipulated the market to this dump we saw in last few days.
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June 18, 2023, 11:42:50 AM
#18
A few day ago blackrock happy was buy cheap many btc in the market.

Where did you get such a conclusion from? The fact that BlackRock has submitted a request for a BTC ETF does not mean that it will suddenly start buying BTC, and considering that it is a spot ETF, the SEC has so far rejected every such request, and the deadline in which they have to make a decision is 240 days.


I tend to agree.
Also, Blackrock wouldn't be buying Bitcoin even if that ETF had been approved.
The point of an ETF is to be balanced for the issuer. Such structures operate in a risk-neutral way: money in from the customers, money out to buy Bitcoin. There is no need to front-run the customers trying to profit from directionality.
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June 18, 2023, 06:59:16 AM
#17
A few day ago blackrock happy was buy cheap many btc in the market.

Where did you get such a conclusion from? The fact that BlackRock has submitted a request for a BTC ETF does not mean that it will suddenly start buying BTC, and considering that it is a spot ETF, the SEC has so far rejected every such request, and the deadline in which they have to make a decision is 240 days.

Now, you are regret to sold it to big company which will be resold back to you with high price in the next years.

I don't know who you are addressing with this post, but you obviously don't know how trading works - not all people in the world are exposed to the US market, nor do they sell through CEXs. I didn't sell anything, and I believe that most of the forum members didn't sell anything significant these days - in fact, I think that many took advantage of the dip and bought BTC.
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June 18, 2023, 06:45:18 AM
#16
I will tell you a secret: next year is not too far away. And exactly that's why (next year is halving year, you know), the corporate traders (buyers) may be hungrier than in the past 2 years.
Wow, thanks for telling me a secret. I just know that, that not in vain if I hold my little btc on my non-custody.

I will fight that corporate, I won't sell my btc for them. never!!
That's good if you don't want to sell your Bitcoin now and will not sell it to the company's traders. But when the price goes up high and you want to sell it, you won't know who bought your Bitcoin, especially if you sell your Bitcoin on an exchange.

And the company's traders can buy Bitcoin from other people, especially those who are panicked to see the price drop, which happens often. I suggest you don't need to think about that because you better think about how to accumulate more Bitcoins now.

Collecting a lot of Bitcoin will be an advantage for you because you can get big profits next year or when the price of Bitcoin goes up. So it's better to just think about that than to think about the company's traders or negative news about Bitcoin.
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June 18, 2023, 03:54:09 AM
#15
I will fight that corporate, I won't sell my btc for them. never!!

I think it could be wiser to sell (some) at some (much later) point, to allow you an easy life. But it's your money (in your own custody, which is very good), so it's clearly up to you.

It's hard to fight them, that's why they are called whales, you can go against them in the open sea.

Perhaps the best thing to do is swim with them, in every price drop, do what they do, buy and continue to accumulate as much as you can. They are definitely hungrier, and they have the capital to scoop as much as you can. But for us average joe, we can also do that as well, and buy where our money can get us and then HODL and wait for the next bull run (2024-2025).

It's only hard to fight them if your hearth starts beating harder at every small movement the price does. Imho it's not worth it. Just zoom to see much longer periods of time, buy in crypto winter, sell (if at all) in FOMO bubble (even if not at the top), and in the rest of time just sit back and relax. Then the whales will no longer be able to touch you.
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June 18, 2023, 01:23:28 AM
#14
I will tell you a secret: next year is not too far away. And exactly that's why (next year is halving year, you know), the corporate traders (buyers) may be hungrier than in the past 2 years.
Wow, thanks for telling me a secret. I just know that, that not in vain if I hold my little btc on my non-custody.

I will fight that corporate, I won't sell my btc for them. never!!

It's hard to fight them, that's why they are called whales, you can go against them in the open sea.

Perhaps the best thing to do is swim with them, in every price drop, do what they do, buy and continue to accumulate as much as you can. They are definitely hungrier, and they have the capital to scoop as much as you can. But for us average joe, we can also do that as well, and buy where our money can get us and then HODL and wait for the next bull run (2024-2025).
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June 17, 2023, 09:15:11 PM
#13
I will tell you a secret: next year is not too far away. And exactly that's why (next year is halving year, you know), the corporate traders (buyers) may be hungrier than in the past 2 years.
Wow, thanks for telling me a secret. I just know that, that not in vain if I hold my little btc on my non-custody.

I will fight that corporate, I won't sell my btc for them. never!!
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June 17, 2023, 02:33:25 PM
#12
Next year is too far away; it's already happening right now. The price has bumped up a little bit down from yesterday, with at least a whole $1k already added to it.

While you've noticed correctly the quick recovery of the price, I will tell you a secret: next year is not too far away. And exactly that's why (next year is halving year, you know), the corporate traders (buyers) may be hungrier than in the past 2 years.
Also, for the sake of your long term sanity, start thinking on longer terms, else the daily price movements will affect you, sooner or later (especially if you also hodl a little).
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June 17, 2023, 02:15:14 PM
#11
A few day ago blackrock happy was buy cheap many btc in the market. Now, you are regret to sold it to big company which will be resold back to you with high price in the next years.

It's normal to sell, depending on the situation and the person's decision, but the act of selling wrongly occurs when the person decides to sell because of panic or the pressure of price volatility. In a normal sense, a Bitcoin investor is only supposed to buy Bitcoin if they are fully convinced that they can hold it for a very long time until they make some profit, instead of selling when the market is down, which can cause them to lose some funds from their original asset. But well, everyone has their own decisions, and the truth is that, after a bull market, comes a bear market too. So anyone who doesn't buy now should wait for another bear market and hope that the price can get low like the previous best season.


Cheers 🥂, Dr.Bitcoin_Strange 👺👺
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June 17, 2023, 11:57:35 AM
#10
A few day ago blackrock happy was buy cheap many btc in the market. Now, you are regret to sold it to big company which will be resold back to you with high price in the next years.

blackrock has been buying bitcoin for years
as long as users were happy when they sold their coin(at profit) then there is no problem

what i see as a problem is where blackrock is lobbying regulators to set up barriers of entry to make it difficult to purchase bitcoin direct (EG harder to open a coinbase/binance account to buy bitcoin because of all the hurdles needed to register with coinbase/binance) but instead have it too easy to open a blackrock account and buy their silly shares pegged at bitcoin prices. where blackrock owns the bitcoin stored in coinbase but users cant then redeem shares for bitcoin either.
and where if you buy a share for say a 2024 peg of say 0.025btc. in 2025 its pegged at 0.0245btc in 2026 its pegged at 0.024 and so on. the longer you hold the shares the less sats its pegged at
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