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legendary
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November 09, 2015, 03:02:45 AM
#26
Anyone opinions about the PSU?
Follow this table. https://i.imgur.com/tgrbCnr.jpg

I went for tier one as they are very reliable and a poor psu can fry your motherboard and cause a fire. I chose M12II Seasonic for myself.
newbie
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November 09, 2015, 02:53:14 AM
#25
Anyone opinions about the PSU?
newbie
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November 08, 2015, 02:47:11 PM
#24
I'm safer with legit Windows. The only thing I am worried about is the PSU
full member
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November 08, 2015, 02:15:26 PM
#23
You can consider using amd instead of intel at cpu choice
Fx 6300 should be fine amd processors perform good at dx 12 tests also there is no temp problem amd solved this with its last series other than that buying an amd compatible motherboard costs less for you.

second choice buying latest and highest amd a10 processor and an r9 2**,r9 3** graphic card and make igpu and dgpu run in crossfire
legendary
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Merit: 1016
November 08, 2015, 01:58:30 PM
#22
No individual has ever been prosecuted for using a cracked version of Windows, only businesses or people who try and sell illegal copies.

Not saying it's the best idea, just saying that instability/updates are the main problem, you won't get sent to prison or fined.

I've never paid for Windows.
Not entirely true. Although they are not aggressive about this and see it more as a conversion tool, I (partially) agree. However, you will be flagged by (at least) your ISP. In case you decide to get something from a company that is fighting piracy then it will be easier to find and prosecute you. I have both, pirated and original Windows. If one can attain it at a good price then there's no need to pirate (sometimes the offers are quite great).

Interesting. It seems likely however, that this case is someone selling copies of Windows/PCs with Windows pre-installed. They mention "a number" of product key activations - I bet this number is not "1", otherwise they would probably say "1".
legendary
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November 08, 2015, 01:50:07 PM
#21
No individual has ever been prosecuted for using a cracked version of Windows, only businesses or people who try and sell illegal copies.

Not saying it's the best idea, just saying that instability/updates are the main problem, you won't get sent to prison or fined.

I've never paid for Windows.
Not entirely true. Although they are not aggressive about this and see it more as a conversion tool, I (partially) agree. However, you will be flagged by (at least) your ISP. In case you decide to get something from a company that is fighting piracy then it will be easier to find and prosecute you. I have both, pirated and original Windows. If one can attain it at a good price then there's no need to pirate (sometimes the offers are quite great).
legendary
Activity: 1188
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November 08, 2015, 01:38:23 PM
#20
And the last question why you not use pirate windows ? you can get more fund to upgrade the hardware. Tongue
Maybe because that is illegal and you could end up paying a fine or go to prison? (not saying that MS is actually trying to root out people) Depending on where you live it would be better to buy a legit copy.

No individual has ever been prosecuted for using a cracked version of Windows, only businesses or people who try and sell illegal copies.

Not saying it's the best idea, just saying that instability/updates are the main problem, you won't get sent to prison or fined.

I've never paid for Windows.
legendary
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November 08, 2015, 01:16:59 PM
#19
And the last question why you not use pirate windows ? you can get more fund to upgrade the hardware. Tongue
Maybe because that is illegal and you could end up paying a fine or go to prison? (not saying that MS is actually trying to root out people) Depending on where you live it would be better to buy a legit copy.

And for future Gaming 8GB of ram it less , I suggest you upgrade to 16gb. Cheesy
For "future gaming"?  Well then he can upgrade it in the future. 8GB is fine at the moment.
legendary
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November 08, 2015, 01:14:05 PM
#18
Can the power supply run all those things?
That's a good question. I actually never ask myself that because I bought a really great PSU back in the mining days (1000W Gold). The minimum specified for a GTX 970 is 500W. I think that you should be fine though considering how much drain the components have shown at intensive loads.
newbie
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November 08, 2015, 01:09:21 PM
#17
Can the power supply run all those things?
newbie
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November 08, 2015, 12:03:53 PM
#16
Sorry R9 390. It isn't technically a rebrand as it does have a heck lot more of vRam than 970. You can run 4k easily with one of those. It does help with high textures too. GTX 970 even though run cooler, loses out quite a bit and it doesn't have asynchronous compute. Technically, R9 290x would be great too. The only thing you need is 600w+ PSU.
You have no idea what you're talking about. No matter if you put 1 GB or 128 GB of virtual RAM it does not change the fact that it is a rebrand. A GPU does not perform exponentially better just because it has more vram. He obviously won't be playing at 4k; also 1 card is not enough unless you want to play games with bad graphics or play at low settings. You obviously have no clue what AMD has done. The r9 390x is a rebranded r9 290x (i.e. same GPU with minor modifications). With others it is much worse, being rebranded a twice (back from the Radeon 7xxx series).


All in all the r9 390 is a decent pick compared to the GTX 970 and they're in the same price range. Although I would never buy a rebrand.



I will buy the GTX 970. Also, I don't need the DVD drive, just to install Windows.
And sorry, I am converting HUF to USD, I calculated wrong
legendary
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November 08, 2015, 11:55:47 AM
#15
Sorry R9 390. It isn't technically a rebrand as it does have a heck lot more of vRam than 970. You can run 4k easily with one of those. It does help with high textures too. GTX 970 even though run cooler, loses out quite a bit and it doesn't have asynchronous compute. Technically, R9 290x would be great too. The only thing you need is 600w+ PSU.
You have no idea what you're talking about. No matter if you put 1 GB or 128 GB of virtual RAM it does not change the fact that it is a rebrand. A GPU does not perform exponentially better just because it has more vram. He obviously won't be playing at 4k; also 1 card is not enough unless you want to play games with bad graphics or play at low settings. You obviously have no clue what AMD has done. The r9 390x is a rebranded r9 290x (i.e. same GPU with minor modifications). With others it is much worse, being rebranded a twice (back from the Radeon 7xxx series).


All in all the r9 390 is a decent pick compared to the GTX 970 and they're in the same price range. Although I would never buy a rebrand.


I will buy the GTX 970. Also, I don't need the DVD drive, just to install Windows.
I don't have a DVD drive either (on my laptop) and I have yet to encounter a situation in which I need one. That's a good call.
legendary
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November 08, 2015, 09:27:43 AM
#14
I wouldn't recommend to get GTX970 as it does have an issue with the slower chunk of ram. Instead, if AMD R9 390 or 390x is around the same price range, get it.
The issue was blown out of proportion, I have no problems with that card. Also your suggestion is wrong as those cards are not in the same price range. GTX 970 ~ $315, R9 390x ~400$. One should not buy a rebrand, it brings nothing particularly new to the table. The GTX 970 runs cooler, quieter and uses much less power.


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Sorry R9 390. It isn't technically a rebrand as it does have a heck lot more of vRam than 970. You can run 4k easily with one of those. It does help with high textures too. GTX 970 even though run cooler, loses out quite a bit and it doesn't have asynchronous compute. Technically, R9 290x would be great too. The only thing you need is 600w+ PSU.
legendary
Activity: 1188
Merit: 1016
November 08, 2015, 09:17:20 AM
#13
That seems like a lot of money (if it's 1100 USD) for what you're getting. I would suggest going for the i5 4690K with a z97 motherboard. You'll be able to easily overclock your K chip to get better performance.

However if you're not interested in overclocking then it makes more sense to spend the extra on a slightly better GPU.

For instance this is something closer to what I would get - 4690K, Z97 mobo with a GTX 970 GPU and SSD/HDD - 930 USD:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Z93qvK

I just ordered some new PC parts, but I went for a Skylake 6600K because I wanted to future-proof my system and get DDR4 RAM.

EDIT: Now I'm confused, are you converting HUF to Australian dollars to get your $1100 figure? Because 238k HUF is just over 800 USD as far as I can see. If you can't spend any more than that, then forget the K processor/z97 board (but I would seriously recommend spending the extra ~$100 and getting them, along with the gtx 970).
hero member
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Space Lord
November 08, 2015, 08:37:29 AM
#12
And will that i5 bottleneck the GPU?
I don't think that it will.

SSD is only for the boot of the system you will install everithing on the 1TB magnetic disk
Even if you only save 2 minutes per boot time, and only boot once daily that translated to a lot of saved time. Not to mention every program that you try opening will open faster, also file transfers and whatnot.

Keeping the blockchain on an SSD is pretty cool Wink
legendary
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November 08, 2015, 08:36:21 AM
#11
I wouldn't recommend to get GTX970 as it does have an issue with the slower chunk of ram. Instead, if AMD R9 390 or 390x is around the same price range, get it.
The issue was blown out of proportion, I have no problems with that card. Also your suggestion is wrong as those cards are not in the same price range. GTX 970 ~ $315, R9 390x ~400$. One should not buy a rebrand, it brings nothing particularly new to the table. The GTX 970 runs cooler, quieter and uses much less power.


As long as you don't install many (storage heavy) programs on it you should be fine. My partition on my laptop is ~100gb and it's only being used up 60%. Just store everything on the HDD and enjoy blazing boot times.


It also wouldn't be a bad idea to consider waiting 6 months. The next generation of GPUs is coming and it should have significant performance advantages over the current one.
legendary
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November 08, 2015, 08:21:38 AM
#10
Your system is pretty decent and is quite alright for a build. However, if you want to save money, considering downloading the ISO to your USB and load windows on it. Install windows using it. You can get a product key online or simply use a program to crack it.

The thermal paste is redundant. The i5 cpu comes with a pre-applied thermal paste with the cooler and no additional is needed. The DVD rom is needed if you use it frequently. With steam, I doubt anyone needs it anymore. When I built a gaming PC for my friend, I didn't even need that. I wouldn't recommend to get GTX970 as it does have an issue with the slower chunk of ram. Instead, if AMD R9 390 or 390x is around the same price range, get it.
newbie
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November 08, 2015, 08:14:13 AM
#9
Here's a Kingston 120Gb SSD
http://www.aqua.hu/mobile/120gb-kingston-ssd-sata3-25-meghajto-7mm-adapter-sv300s37a120g-199965.html

I can push that into my budget I think
legendary
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November 08, 2015, 08:09:36 AM
#8
And will that i5 bottleneck the GPU?
I don't think that it will.

SSD is only for the boot of the system you will install everithing on the 1TB magnetic disk
Even if you only save 2 minutes per boot time, and only boot once daily that translated to a lot of saved time. Not to mention every program that you try opening will open faster, also file transfers and whatnot.
newbie
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November 08, 2015, 08:06:03 AM
#7
SSD is only for the boot of the system you will install everithing on the 1TB magnetic disk
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