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Topic: [SOLVED] Scammed by AlehandroTheGreat (Read 908 times)

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September 06, 2017, 07:34:43 AM
#16
Thanks to Minexcoin support team for prompt responses to the questions raised on the scam accusation. I am especially grateful to receive the information about the latest updates that helped to solve unpleasant problem.I really appreciate  understanding and support regarding the finalized investigation by Boris Shulyaev.The whole communication  was both informative and inspirational, and I’m pleased to share the result that we made conslusion with members of bitcointalk community.Thanks for your attention!
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August 19, 2017, 09:37:19 AM
#15
He already had at least 1 negative rating before he traded with you. Why would you trade with someone who has a negative rating and no other positive ones? Anyways, tagged.

What's the amount in BTC that you've lost?
My bad Angry I thought it have to be safe trade if we gonna to use localbitcoins escrow service.Total loss is 0.35BTC. Thank you for contribution to keep forum clean and scam free.

Do you really think that we did not have to reset two-factor authorization? Where can we know if you sold the account or did not sell it? And what if you did not pay for the account? Did you receive a password from the mail, which is the login? Did you change the password on this post?

Problem is not hacking, stealing password or bypass 2fa security. I already sent you proofs regarding this deal.

Do you really think that we did not have to reset two-factor authorization? Where can we know if you sold the account or did not sell it? And what if you did not pay for the account? Did you receive a password from the mail, which is the login? Did you change the password on this post?

He received mail and the pass from email!!!!! He simply try to login to my second email with the same password and set 2fa there!!! He is very clever fox and scammer!! He got his account, I never had 420 Minexcoin on my main account and I do not know where you take this number, there are near 20 coins on main account! If you want I can do video recording of that
If you like your "tricky plan", you can keep it. I invite you to read thread one more time and dont forget to check proofs.


Yeah check the proofs by yourself once again, I can not found any mention there about email ka****ka@gmail.com , which I asked minexcoin team to reset 2fa.....HuhHuh?
In your proofs is that absolutely another email, are you joking ? also minexcoin team can tell you, that i reset 2fa from email k****ka@gmail.com, not that email, which is in proofs.....

PS:Give me some time, I will make 100+1 proof from my side,lol, with screens and video recordings, I love that game, you started
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August 19, 2017, 09:33:06 AM
#14
He already had at least 1 negative rating before he traded with you. Why would you trade with someone who has a negative rating and no other positive ones? Anyways, tagged.

What's the amount in BTC that you've lost?
My bad Angry I thought it have to be safe trade if we gonna to use localbitcoins escrow service.Total loss is 0.35BTC. Thank you for contribution to keep forum clean and scam free.

Do you really think that we did not have to reset two-factor authorization? Where can we know if you sold the account or did not sell it? And what if you did not pay for the account? Did you receive a password from the mail, which is the login? Did you change the password on this post?

Problem is not hacking, stealing password or bypass 2fa security. I already sent you proofs regarding this deal.

Do you really think that we did not have to reset two-factor authorization? Where can we know if you sold the account or did not sell it? And what if you did not pay for the account? Did you receive a password from the mail, which is the login? Did you change the password on this post?

He received mail and the pass from email!!!!! He simply try to login to my second email with the same password and set 2fa there!!! He is very clever fox and scammer!! He got his account, I never had 420 Minexcoin on my main account and I do not know where you take this number, there are near 20 coins on main account! If you want I can do video recording of that
If you like your "tricky plan", you can keep it. I invite you to read thread one more time and dont forget to check proofs.
sr. member
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August 18, 2017, 08:46:45 PM
#13
To Alehandro

1st : Why you created a temporary email when trading the account? To Prove that someone really changed the email to temporary email to make it look like you're account has been hacked?
2nd : Why do you keep on Saying 2fa is the most secure thing ever? Do the social engineering by reporting to minexcoin that your account has been compromised. Bravo you successfuly bypassed 2fa! In the first place the account is yours so Minexcoin team did what needed to be done.

To Danslip
1st : Base on your screenshot, Alehandro is trying everything to make you pay as soon as possible. I also doubt that his original post was part of the plan.

2nd : Your trade is Escrowed. You better have clear set of rules when trading. You agree with the ico account trade but not with Coin itself. He sold his ico account. Alehandro make sure that you only have the access to the account and waited for the attack.

3rd : When the trade is successful and you finally have access to the ICO account, you became confident that the trade is successful.

- Creating a believable scenario is one of steps in social engineering





4th : You're pointing the Minexcoin handled the situation poorly. No. I don't think so. Base on what i said 1st about Alehandro , he actually planned it really well. And he uses minexcoin as a tool for initiating the scam.

This is a clear case of Social Engineering. He already mentioned he's been doing some pentest so it's so easy for him to initiate social engineering.  . I read most of these kind of cases so i can't miss with my conclusion.



But the main funny thing is that account with temporary email and my owna ccount with my email are two different accounts with the same password, and this guys login two both and enable 2fa in both accounts, so HE STEAL MY OWN ACCOUNT FROM ME AND ENABLE 2FA......... Account which is with temporary email I never touch after that and it is TRUE, also on my account with my own email never was 420 minexcoins , but only 20! anything to add? You do not know the situation and try to defend somebody you do not know, nice
Yeah. Next time put a reference when reviewing a trust on me. Help Scammers? What reason is that? LoL!!!! I've seen so many kind of trickery like this so you got nothing to hide. You can't defend yourself on this thread because it's crystal clear that you are a SCAMMER. We are no idiots here. Look and analyze your statement now. Wow. good thing there is an Edit button. The More your talk, the more you are guilty.


As for me, one guy steal my account and then want to steal it again from me and call me scammer, when he is scammer, and all who are helping scammers, are those who they are, so why I put it, it is my opinion and how it is from my side....

You help this scammer, you get what you get


IF YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND I WILL REPEAT FOR YOU ONLY

This guy bought one account and try to login to another account and WOOP! they have the same password, after that he simply e
nable 2fa , BUT he had email from the first account, so it is safe and secure, BUT WOOOP I have email from account he steal from me AND I GOT IT BACK, CUZ IT WAS STOLEN FROM ME!! PS: also I think , you must be 100% stupid to buy account without email, and this guy bought it with email, if you want I can give skype screenshoots, but NAH, I did not need to  proove anyone anything, you are nobody for me, simply guy who help scammers
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Healing Galing
August 18, 2017, 08:10:03 PM
#12
To Alehandro

1st : Why you created a temporary email when trading the account? To Prove that someone really changed the email to temporary email to make it look like you're account has been hacked?
2nd : Why do you keep on Saying 2fa is the most secure thing ever? Do the social engineering by reporting to minexcoin that your account has been compromised. Bravo you successfuly bypassed 2fa! In the first place the account is yours so Minexcoin team did what needed to be done.

To Danslip
1st : Base on your screenshot, Alehandro is trying everything to make you pay as soon as possible. I also doubt that his original post was part of the plan.

2nd : Your trade is Escrowed. You better have clear set of rules when trading. You agree with the ico account trade but not with Coin itself. He sold his ico account. Alehandro make sure that you only have the access to the account and waited for the attack.

3rd : When the trade is successful and you finally have access to the ICO account, you became confident that the trade is successful.

- Creating a believable scenario is one of steps in social engineering

4th : You're pointing the Minexcoin handled the situation poorly. No. I don't think so. Base on what i said 1st about Alehandro , he actually planned it really well. And he uses minexcoin as a tool for initiating the scam.

This is a clear case of Social Engineering. He already mentioned he's been doing some pentest so it's so easy for him to initiate social engineering.  . I read most of these kind of cases so i can't miss with my conclusion.



But the main funny thing is that account with temporary email and my owna ccount with my email are two different accounts with the same password, and this guys login two both and enable 2fa in both accounts, so HE STEAL MY OWN ACCOUNT FROM ME AND ENABLE 2FA......... Account which is with temporary email I never touch after that and it is TRUE, also on my account with my own email never was 420 minexcoins , but only 20! anything to add? You do not know the situation and try to defend somebody you do not know, nice
Yeah. Next time put a reference when reviewing a trust on me. Help Scammers? What reason is that? LoL!!!! I've seen so many kind of trickery like this so you got nothing to hide. You can't defend yourself on this thread because it's crystal clear that you are a SCAMMER. We are no idiots here. Look and analyze your statement now. Wow. good thing there is an Edit button. The More your talk, the more you are guilty.
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August 18, 2017, 07:48:30 PM
#11
To Alehandro

1st : Why you created a temporary email when trading the account? To Prove that someone really changed the email to temporary email to make it look like you're account has been hacked?
2nd : Why do you keep on Saying 2fa is the most secure thing ever? Do the social engineering by reporting to minexcoin that your account has been compromised. Bravo you successfuly bypassed 2fa! In the first place the account is yours so Minexcoin team did what needed to be done.

To Danslip
1st : Base on your screenshot, Alehandro is trying everything to make you pay as soon as possible. I also doubt that his original post was part of the plan.

2nd : Your trade is Escrowed. You better have clear set of rules when trading. You agree with the ico account trade but not with Coin itself. He sold his ico account. Alehandro make sure that you only have the access to the account and waited for the attack.

3rd : When the trade is successful and you finally have access to the ICO account, you became confident that the trade is successful.

- Creating a believable scenario is one of steps in social engineering

4th : You're pointing the Minexcoin handled the situation poorly. No. I don't think so. Base on what i said 1st about Alehandro , he actually planned it really well. And he uses minexcoin as a tool for initiating the scam.

This is a clear case of Social Engineering. He already mentioned he's been doing some pentest so it's so easy for him to initiate social engineering.  . I read most of these kind of cases so i can't miss with my conclusion.



But the main funny thing is that account with temporary email and my owna ccount with my email are two different accounts with the same password, and this guys login two both and enable 2fa in both accounts, so HE STEAL MY OWN ACCOUNT FROM ME AND ENABLE 2FA......... Account which is with temporary email I never touch after that and it is TRUE, also on my account with my own email never was 420 minexcoins , but only 20! anything to add? You do not know the situation and try to defend somebody you do not know, nice
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Healing Galing
August 18, 2017, 06:40:08 PM
#10
To Alehandro

1st : Why you created a temporary email when trading the account? To Prove that someone really changed the email to temporary email to make it look like you're account has been hacked?
2nd : Why do you keep on Saying 2fa is the most secure thing ever? Do the social engineering by reporting to minexcoin that your account has been compromised. Bravo you successfuly bypassed 2fa! In the first place the account is yours so Minexcoin team did what needed to be done.

To Danslip
1st : Base on your screenshot, Alehandro is trying everything to make you pay as soon as possible. I also doubt that his original post was part of the plan.

2nd : Your trade is Escrowed. You better have clear set of rules when trading. You agree with the ico account trade but not with Coin itself. He sold his ico account. Alehandro make sure that you only have the access to the account and waited for the attack.

3rd : When the trade is successful and you finally have access to the ICO account, you became confident that the trade is successful.

- Creating a believable scenario is one of steps in social engineering

4th : You're pointing the Minexcoin handled the situation poorly. No. I don't think so. Base on what i said 1st about Alehandro , he actually planned it really well. And he uses minexcoin as a tool for initiating the scam.

This is a clear case of Social Engineering. He already mentioned he's been doing some pentest so it's so easy for him to initiate social engineering.  . I read most of these kind of cases so i can't miss with my conclusion.

sr. member
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August 18, 2017, 05:28:17 PM
#9
Do you really think that we did not have to reset two-factor authorization? Where can we know if you sold the account or did not sell it? And what if you did not pay for the account? Did you receive a password from the mail, which is the login? Did you change the password on this post?

He received mail and the pass from email!!!!! He simply try to login to my second email with the same password and set 2fa there!!! He is very clever fox and scammer!! He got his account, I never had 420 Minexcoin on my main account and I do not know where you take this number, there are near 20 coins on main account! If you want I can do video recording of that
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August 18, 2017, 05:24:15 PM
#8
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August 18, 2017, 04:57:15 PM
#7
Dear Danslip,

I have read carefully your post and couldn't feel anything but sadness for you. It appears the guy scammed you indeed, but the Minexcoin team cannot be considered at fault here.

1) Buying an investor account is always at your own peril. This is why an escrow is needed, to avoid such things
2) The procedure to withdraw the MNX from the site to the wallet was ongoing, and the guy knew it. Since you were no one to the Minexcoin team, why would they think that it is yours now?
3) You were not present, but the team has said countless times that they do not support inter-investor trading of Minexcoin. They cannot be held responsible if anything happens.
4) The more I read your post, the more I can understand that the team has nothing to do with all this. They simply applied a recovery procedure for someone who lost his account. The rest is technically not their fault/problem
5) you traded with someone who had a negative trust rating....Danslip...what were you imagining here?

And yet, Boris just proposed to reimburse you with the team's personal savings. I'd say there is nothing unprofessional here.

I am very sorry for you, However,  may I advise some more caution the next time? Missing an ICO happens, please deal with it. If your FOMO makes you acts without any caution, you cannot blame someone else but yourself..

Respectfully,
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August 18, 2017, 03:41:11 PM
#6
If you prove to me that the Minexcoin team acted incorrectly by abolishing 2fa, I will personally pay you coins from the developer funds.
Boris Shulyaev
CEO Minexcoin
Answer my PM please
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minexcoin.com
August 18, 2017, 03:38:24 PM
#5
If you prove to me that the Minexcoin team acted incorrectly by abolishing 2fa, I will personally pay you coins from the developer funds.
Boris Shulyaev
CEO Minexcoin
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August 18, 2017, 03:32:27 PM
#4
Do you really think that we did not have to reset two-factor authorization? Where can we know if you sold the account or did not sell it? And what if you did not pay for the account? Did you receive a password from the mail, which is the login? Did you change the password on this post?
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August 18, 2017, 03:24:06 PM
#3
Seem complicated. But as I think it's risky to buy coins like this, probably it's your fault. Of course he is scammer but think twice before doing something.
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August 18, 2017, 02:41:28 PM
#2
He already had at least 1 negative rating before he traded with you. Why would you trade with someone who has a negative rating and no other positive ones? Anyways, tagged.

What's the amount in BTC that you've lost?
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August 18, 2017, 09:01:36 AM
#1
What happened: I am interested with minexcoin project but i was too late to join Minexcoin ICO.That's why i decided to buy investor accounts through forum marketplace section: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/selling-my-minexcoin-account-2007573 http://archive.is/agqbc
I send message to AlehandroTheGreat via forum pm.

Hi Dev,

1. Can you give the exact links to the minexcoin 64 bit wallet as I cannot see it on the website.

2. I am not on telegram nor do I want to add it so is there another way for me to get my test coins converted?
Hello!
1.We are pleased to present you the Windows version (64 bit). You can download the wallet by link https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B6RgVwaRHPRyZGQycjlrRS1fY2s (file - minex-qt).
2. We will decide issues with people who don't have Telegram after July 28th.
So already positive test bank will end on 28 juli?
Hoping that early August the name of MNX is already in the big market,
congratulations for all Minexcoin supporters

Hello!

Test is already over! It was 25th of July.

Today last day when you can apply.

More info about ended test version you can find here:

https://blog.minecoin.org/minexbank-and-minexcoin-is-nearing-its-completion-163b76b5d5a9

Thank you for your congratulations!

DEAR MINEXCOIN TEAM, PLEASE check your PM, cuz I am waiting 4 days, I am worrying and I can not get into my account! PLEASE check your PM ASAP, how long I need to wait.....you will release withdraw function and hacker will steal my coins!

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.20440963 (http://archive.is/ZUKVH)


And BINGO!!!

DEAR MINEXCOIN TEAM, PLEASE check your PM, cuz I am waiting 4 days, I am worrying and I can not get into my account! PLEASE check your PM ASAP, how long I need to wait.....you will release withdraw function and hacker will steal my coins!
Hello!
We sent you a letter on your email.
Please check it.
Thank you very much !!!!!!!! THANKS!  all is fine now
You are welcome Wink

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.20441810 (http://archive.is/PVlGK)


This is the biggest mistake of minexcoin  support team. They helped scammer to scam others.They recovered his accounts without any investigation. What a unprofessional and unacceptable decision! I never get any email regarding this issue from support team.I contacted with support team and send them all proofs to investigate the issue. But i already losed my hope and trust to this project after all this things:
Sorry, but why you are ignoring me in PM and here, I am telling you, that I was credited wrong amount of coins, you can check it by yourself, why you are ignoooring me??? I am waiting for 9 days
Hello.
We checked your situation. You want to withdraw this amount 1,288.65752161 MNX,  but on transactions you have a sum 16.65752161 MNX.
Here are the calculations 0.03660768 * 1,05 / 0,00230755 and hash of transaction  https://blockchain.info/tx/fc8f2215c122e0501cd1ed0204323107
98ac9bfc2eac6547499a6906a488a406
The first question, why do you want to withdraw  1,288.65752161 MNX , if your balance is 16.65752161 MNX?
For what purpose did you register this emails ?
kau***ka@mail.ru
aleh***ro777alehandro7@gmail.com
aleh***ro777alehandro@gmail.com
aleh***ro777alehandro77@gmail.com
kau***ka@gmail.com
My full answer regarding your question
If you remember my account was hacked and enabled 2fa, I was not able to accept it, but I WAS REMEMBER that I was having 20+ coins and I will tell you why!!

Here are the calculations 0.03660768 * 1,05 / 0,00230755 it is = 16.657521613 AND YOU ARE RIGHT!!!
BUT[/size]

I AM TELLING THAT I WAS BUYING COINS IN THE FIRST DAY OF ICO AND I SHOULD HAVE +50% , SO YOUR FORMULA SHOULD BE

0.03660768 * 1,5 / 0,00230755 = 23.796459 COINS !!!! and I remember that I was having 23 COIN! NOT 16 COINS!!!!!!!
why in your formula is * 1.05, when it should be *1,5      
AM I wrong and where  
SO as you see I have 8 missing coins!!!!
Best regards
ADDED: PS about additional emails, I am working as pentester guy and before donation to any ICO in my point is to check project for vulnerabilities, low level code , scams, etc, to be sure, that my money are going in the right direction, also I do not want to withdraw any 1000+ coins, I did not put any withdraw request as you see..... I only want to understand why I am having MISSING 8 COINS IN MY ICO ACCOUNT and now I see, that you simply are using wrong formula, PLEASE read all info before and understand, that I am really having 8 missing coins, which I should have for investing in your ICO in the 1st day of ICO, and it should be *1,5 (50%) instead of *1,05 (5%)!!!!!
8 coins is not a problem
Where did you get the amount of 1,288.65752161 MNX Huh
Send transaction where we can see that you invested at first day 50%!!!
And what about your emails ?
Are you joking???
1) So you agreed, that your formula is wrong and you are giving to users wrong amount of coins??? I see yes, cuz it is true and your formula is wrong, please add missing coins to my balance
2)Send transaction where we can see that you invested at first day 50%!!!   -    ARE YOU JOKING?Huh YOU SEND MY MY TXTID BY YOUR OWN - you know it - here it is -
 https://blockchain.info/tx/fc8f2215c122e0501cd1ed0204323107
98ac9bfc2eac6547499a6906a488a406
so lol
3)What about emails - you do not read my previous post??? I have written all info about it! But anyway I am not lazy to copypaste it again
"ADDED: PS about additional emails, I am working as pentester guy and before donation to any ICO in my point is to check project for vulnerabilities, low level code , scams, etc, to be sure, that my money are going in the right direction, also I do not want to withdraw any 1000+ coins, I did not put any withdraw request as you see..... I only want to understand why I am having MISSING 8 COINS IN MY ICO ACCOUNT and now I see, that you simply are using wrong formula, PLEASE read all info before and understand, that I am really having 8 missing coins, which I should have for investing in your ICO in the 1st day of ICO, and it should be *1,5 (50%) instead of *1,05 (5%)!!!!!"
If you are lazy to read again, I will write in short, I was testing your project to low level code and vulnerabilities, AND IT HAS A LOT OF BUGS AND ERRORS, but it is not my FALTH! I only want MY MISSING COINS FOR ICO WHERE I PUT MY OWN MONEY, PLEASE ADD THAT MISSING BALANCE TO MY ACCOUNT, THX
ABOUT BUGS AND ERRORS IN YOUR SERVICE I WRITE A LOT IN SLACK BUT YOUR SUPPORT DO NOT GIVE ME ANY CONTACT WITH ANY DEV, SO YES< THERE ARE SOME BUGS IN YOUR PLATFORM, BUT I AM NOT ABUZING THEM, I WANT ONLY MY COINS, FOR WHICH I PAY YOU MONEY and I HAVE WRITTEN ALL CALCULATIONS AND I AM RIGHT, PLEASE ADD TO MY BALANCE MISSING COINS...
If NOW, minexcoin team is want to ask me about bugs, I will help only for bounties or payment ofcourse
ALL ICO INVESTORS PLEASE READ
MINEXCOIN TEAM AGREED, THAT THEY HAVE WRONG FORMULA OF COIN DISTRIBUTION FOR ALL ICO INVESTORS WHO DONATED IN 1ST DAY OF ICO, SO YOU ARE MISSING 50% OF YOU COINS NOW, ALL INFO IS BELOW
This is hach of your transaction!!!
https://blockchain.info/tx/fc8f2215c122e0501cd1ed020432310798ac9bfc2eac6547499a6906a488a406
Time of arrival 2017-06-12 07:02:16 (June, 12) . June 13 - ICO finished!
The last 3 days bonuses were 5%

Answered PM

For all minexcoin supporters - all is fine guys, I am stupid and this is my fall, sry please, Minexcoin team is fine and working hard

Hello!

Thank you for handling the situation with us.
We are glad that the incident is over.
Our team ask you to remove all negative comments that relate to this situation.
We really think that it will be so fair.

Thank you in advance!



https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.20769393 (http://archive.is/yg3mo)

He knows professionally  how to cheat/scam others. It looks like i will never get my minexcoins because the team already transferred it to scammer.

Scammers Profile Link: : https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/alehandrothegreat-881702

Reference Link: : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/selling-my-minexcoin-account-2007573

Amount Scammed: : 420 minexcoin

Payment Method: : Bitcoin

Proofs,PM/Chat Logs:: http://imgur.com/a/QIfbV

If anyone has any more suggestion please let me know

Thank you all in advance.

P.S:Problem solved. I really appreciate support regarding investigation by Boris Shulyaev. Thanks to Minexcoin team.
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