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newbie
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July 08, 2019, 12:47:41 AM
#26
Livecoin (livecoin.net)
Prophet

LiveCoin is really scam
legendary
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Not really, according to https://www.bti.live/exchanges/ Huobi has problem with washtrading, but washtrading lvl is  > 60% while there are some exchanges with >90%

Wash trading is literally about selling coins/tokens back and forth by the same (or multiple colluding) entities for the purpose of creating inflated trading volume. Higher volume -> more suckers -> more money which can be earned from listing fees. They've even admitted that wash trading takes on their exchange but laid the blame on their market makers. >60% volume wash traded (anywhere between 60-90%) sounds like a big deal to me, btw.

While binance wasn't examined at all

OP claims Binance can't be trusted because they're aren't licensed (whatever that means) and that the risk of losing coins is 99%. I don't quite agree with that.

And I think this topic is rather about scams - exchanges which are robbing their users

Nearly all exchanges listed except for binance have a history of nefarious behaviours.
hero member
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Not really, according to https://www.bti.live/exchanges/ Huobi has problem with washtrading, but washtrading lvl is  > 60% while there are some exchanges with >90%
While binance wasn't examined at all
And I think this topic is rather about scams - exchanges which are robbing their users
legendary
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Have you posted some proof that they are scam exchange?
I used Binance and Huobi for how many months I didn't encounter any problem on these exchanges.
Maybe Binance had mistakes once ain't know if they are victims or their strategy but they are back operating now and many traders continue trading there I think that is not enough to accuse them without specific proof.

Didn't Huobi, along with several other Chinese exchanges, have huge issues with fake volume? I think Binance is the least sketchy one from OP's list.
legendary
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Binance, Huobi and OKEX - are scammers
Have you posted some proof that they are scam exchange?
I used Binance and Huobi for how many months I didn't encounter any problem on these exchanges.
Maybe Binance had mistakes once ain't know if they are victims or their strategy but they are back operating now and many traders continue trading there I think that is not enough to accuse them without specific proof.
hero member
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Binance, Huobi and OKEX - are scammers
why do you think so? I think you should post any evidence when you made such accusations.. What I know is slightly different than many people in this thread says - there are issues on every exchange - and bigger exchange has more issue - it is logical
hero member
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February 28, 2019, 05:37:10 PM
#20
good idea, but your choices are funny  Grin
you mentioned almost all known exchanges..
I think we should choose exchanges with most probability of scam  and look carefully over it!
I also surprised to see big exchanges on this list. Mentioned exchanges are top market makers and it is understandable to have a ton of complaints against their management. Scam exchanges are another story, op needs decentralized exchanges for preventing such issues.
jr. member
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February 28, 2019, 09:23:21 AM
#19
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I think you have to show us the evidence that these exchanges are scams, otherwise, your words do not make sense. You pointed out almost all known exchanges, and of course, some have problems, but this does not mean that you should not trust them. Many users shout about scam having made a mistake, for example, having entered the wrong deposit address.
sr. member
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February 24, 2019, 06:10:16 PM
#18
Blacklist of exchanges

These exchanges are not recommended for trading. They do not have an appropriate licenses. The risk of loss of your funds 99%

Want to trade on proven exchanges? Here is a list of officially approved exchanges by the Bitcoin.org community.: https://bitcoin.org/en/exchanges

Binance (binance.com)
Huobi (hbg.com, huobi.com)
OKEx (okex.com)

~snip

I might be agreed because I have some issues with other exchanges on your list, but why you put all three Chinese exchanges as the top on the list? I
I never tried Huobi though, but Binance and OKEx? Come on man, they are really good, their support are responsive, and their platform and system are very stable, compared to other exchanges. Moreover, I think Binance has set a standard for other exchanges in term of UI, and Coinlisting. I know that Binance has some problem with their API and it is abused several times, but they handle it well.

I don't know how some people said that Binance demand KYC, I have been using Binance more than 1 year and never send any documents to them, and I can deposit and withdraw any coins. I think OP is just "Chinese Exchange Hater"
legendary
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Merit: 4002
February 23, 2019, 05:31:14 AM
#17
Binance however - they claim you can trade ( funds in - funds out) without having to provide KYC (if you stay under 2 BTC per day). This is not the case.
It is not limited to Binance but extends to all financial institutions, the third party must be reliable, and you give the disposition of your coins until you withdraw from it.
I agree with the @OP that "all exchanges are not recommended for trading" but allocating specific platforms is a misuse of this item.

From my point of view, cheating is to establish a new kind of centralization by creating more shitcoins that have made all decentralized cryptocurrencies "including bitcoin" somewhat centralized.

Not your keys, Not your coins
hero member
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February 22, 2019, 04:42:20 PM
#16
good idea, but your choices are funny  Grin
you mentioned almost all known exchanges..
I think we should choose exchanges with most probability of scam  and look carefully over it!
member
Activity: 308
Merit: 13
February 22, 2019, 10:14:39 AM
#15
Strange, you indicated Binance, which is a reliable exchange, but you did not specify Bittrex, which block accounts without giving reasons. Please check this:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bittrex-is-a-scam-website-avoid-with-proof-1954598
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/my-bittrex-account-has-been-disabled-2267728
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bittrex-blocked-my-account-more-than-2-weeks-ago-and-still-dont-answer-at-all-5082423

Please tell us why Binance is a scam.
legendary
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February 20, 2019, 11:14:39 AM
#14
Binance however - they claim you can trade ( funds in - funds out) without having to provide KYC (if you stay under 2 BTC per day). This is not the case.

Exchanges claiming things is meaningless, and the little history we have with crypto has proven exactly that. Bittrex legit ruined my legacy account while they said that they wouln't touch it initially, or at least, not subject it to the newer policies that would apply to new registrants.

Poloniex did the exact same thing before Bittrex. Poloniex refugees ended up using Bittrex, it then became one of the largest exchanges by volume, they then realized that Bittrex is doing the exact same thing as Poloniex did to them, and they ended up on a wide variety of exchanges after that.

Knowing this, people should no longer expect the exchanges they use to respect their prior statements or terms; they are the game, and they change the rules whenever they want. It's not for nothing that there hasn't been one single exchange on top for years. One exchange messes up, the other knows what they did wrong and use that in their advantage to offer a better service.
full member
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February 20, 2019, 09:52:13 AM
#13
Agreed.

I got screwed by Binance. They claim to allow trade without KYC. Once you deposit funds they demand KYC.

Free advice:  Binance = Scam

 

The KYC requirement stuff came as a shock to many cause they weren't expecting it in regard of what they promise. KYC verification is expected by citizens from some certain countries or when you want to withdraw certain amount of Bitcoin (According to Binance , unverified account can withdraw up to 2BTC per 24hours while verified account withdraws up to 100BTC per 24hours).

You don't blame them for making such rules, it's all about been on a safer side.
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 108
February 17, 2019, 11:10:16 AM
#12
I am struggling to believe the responses I see on the topic. Though the exchange might not provide KYC it still has one of the trusted trade volume compared to those that request for KYC. What else do we need? Exchanges are not meant to store coin, just trade, but if one fall victim of stolen coin because of coin storage.

Could not agree more my friend. Nobody should ever store funds longterm on exchanges.

Binance however - they claim you can trade ( funds in - funds out) without having to provide KYC (if you stay under 2 BTC per day). This is not the case.
hero member
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Merit: 519
February 17, 2019, 08:19:35 AM
#11
I am struggling to believe the responses I see on the topic. Though the exchange might not provide KYC it still has one of the trusted trade volume compared to those that request for KYC. What else do we need? Exchanges are not meant to store coin, just trade, but if one fall victim of stolen coin because of coin storage.
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 108
February 16, 2019, 04:11:48 PM
#10
Agreed.

I got screwed by Binance. They claim to allow trade without KYC. Once you deposit funds they demand KYC.

Free advice:  Binance = Scam

 
legendary
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February 15, 2019, 03:02:18 PM
#9
These exchanges are not recommended for trading. They do not have an appropriate licenses. The risk of loss of your funds 99%

Although I share your opinion related on a couple of exchanges from your list, I've never published a list like you do.
And you know why? Because I have no proof.
And while "a hunch" will make me avoid some exchanges, it still needs solid proof to accuse somebody/a business.


So I advise you show proof for your accusations. It will make them more credible and you also have your back secured against anything strange (lawsuits, trolls, name it).
hero member
Activity: 3010
Merit: 794
February 15, 2019, 12:55:39 PM
#8
Sounds funny when a newbie tells you you shall not use some exchanges which have been hugely popular for years...
I've been using 2 of the exchanges listed above for more than 3 years, with full satisfaction.
This do proves out that they dont even have the time to research on things nor havent even tried to use up those exchangers specially this guy above me.

Binance (binance.com) - SCAM
Huobi (hbg.com, huobi.com) - SCAM
OKEx (okex.com)  - SCAM

I dont know if this is self-hate or just blindly accusing that these are scams  Huh
newbie
Activity: 140
Merit: 0
February 15, 2019, 06:07:27 AM
#7
Binance (binance.com) - SCAM
Huobi (hbg.com, huobi.com) - SCAM
OKEx (okex.com)  - SCAM
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