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December 20, 2022, 07:27:48 AM

actually i think the Bulls should try to get Derrick Rose back and let him retire as a Bull.  Lonzo isn't going to be coming back any time soon if at all since he is still having knee troubles.  Based on the reception he got vs. the Knicks I really wish they would do that.

I doubt if they gonna do that because it was their decision to trade him when he was making a name in Chicago Bulls but when multiple injuries caught him and they see that he no longer passed those acrobatics moves he once had, they traded him and he cried because the team was really mean a lot for him back then. You can see from an interview on Youtube that while being traded, he cried because it broke his heart really bad that time. Prime Derrick Rose was so amazing and he is the primary reason why the Bulls is a popular team back in the 2010s.

I also agree, as much as we want Rose to retire with the Bulls or at least come back where he started his career, it doesn't make sense for them to get him back because he no longer in his prime.

And that is business though for the team, nothing personal as the time that when Rose was playing with team, he really made them great unfortunately, the team doesn't have that experience to go to the finals and then the unfortunate injuries happened to Rose. Still good though to see him play up to this day, but Bulls is not going to get him back anytime.
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December 20, 2022, 07:20:47 AM
He almost brings the old glory back to Chicago after Jordan's era, become the youngest player to win the MVP award. It is something
that Chicago should give him that privilege of hanging his jersey with the team.

Still fresh in my memory how careless the coach back then, it was a blowout win already and DRose is no longer needed inside
the court.

But an accident really happened, and that injury bring the huge nightmare to DRose career. I'm also one of those fans who are looking
to see him wearing the Bulls uniform.

Can't change the past, maybe his time is just too short in NBA but we will never forget how he makes NBA more exciting to watch that time. He even gains lots of contracts outside the NBA, and that reward his greatness in basketball. Now, he is only a role player and we will never see the old DRose again.

If the old coach of the Bulls will come back, then most likely there's a good chance that he can convince DRose to come back.
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December 20, 2022, 07:09:23 AM

actually i think the Bulls should try to get Derrick Rose back and let him retire as a Bull.  Lonzo isn't going to be coming back any time soon if at all since he is still having knee troubles.  Based on the reception he got vs. the Knicks I really wish they would do that.

I doubt if they gonna do that because it was their decision to trade him when he was making a name in Chicago Bulls but when multiple injuries caught him and they see that he no longer passed those acrobatics moves he once had, they traded him and he cried because the team was really mean a lot for him back then. You can see from an interview on Youtube that while being traded, he cried because it broke his heart really bad that time. Prime Derrick Rose was so amazing and he is the primary reason why the Bulls is a popular team back in the 2010s.

That's unfortunate scene to see when he cry a lot after Bulls trading him and I doubt he will love to go there for what they done to him. But if fans will make this happen and Bulls will do it just for the hype then I think its still good recognition to him knowing he place the Bulls on good place when he is young and healthy.

There's a slim chance that this will happen but let see.

That would be nice gesture for the Bulls if they will sign Rose and let him retire with Bulls Jersey. During his era, he take the Bulls with so much success, he was only rookie when he already started carrying the team, but it's just unfortunate he was injured and things went dark afterwards.

He almost brings the old glory back to Chicago after Jordan's era, become the youngest player to win the MVP award. It is something
that Chicago should give him that privilege of hanging his jersey with the team.

Still fresh in my memory how careless the coach back then, it was a blowout win already and DRose is no longer needed inside
the court.

But an accident really happened, and that injury bring the huge nightmare to DRose career. I'm also one of those fans who are looking
to see him wearing the Bulls uniform.
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December 20, 2022, 06:10:07 AM
Despite the fact that Siakam was able to get around his countryman in scoring, this did not help Toronto beat Philadelphia. Thus, their winning streak increases to five victories, well, this is a very good result after three losses in a row.
76ers are in a winning streak while the Raptors are suffering the opposite.
They need to start winning or else their chances in the playoffs will drop, as for the latest standing, they are already in rank 10 with 6 losing streak, that's not good to be honest.


And the Lakers still can't find their game, Davis and Westbock are injured and it's having too much of an impact on the team.

They need a healthy Davis and Westbrook for this team to succeed, they will struggle without the star players.
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December 20, 2022, 05:50:26 AM

actually i think the Bulls should try to get Derrick Rose back and let him retire as a Bull.  Lonzo isn't going to be coming back any time soon if at all since he is still having knee troubles.  Based on the reception he got vs. the Knicks I really wish they would do that.

I doubt if they gonna do that because it was their decision to trade him when he was making a name in Chicago Bulls but when multiple injuries caught him and they see that he no longer passed those acrobatics moves he once had, they traded him and he cried because the team was really mean a lot for him back then. You can see from an interview on Youtube that while being traded, he cried because it broke his heart really bad that time. Prime Derrick Rose was so amazing and he is the primary reason why the Bulls is a popular team back in the 2010s.

That's unfortunate scene to see when he cry a lot after Bulls trading him and I doubt he will love to go there for what they done to him. But if fans will make this happen and Bulls will do it just for the hype then I think its still good recognition to him knowing he place the Bulls on good place when he is young and healthy.

There's a slim chance that this will happen but let see.

That would be nice gesture for the Bulls if they will sign Rose and let him retire with Bulls Jersey. During his era, he take the Bulls with so much success, he was only rookie when he already started carrying the team, but it's just unfortunate he was injured and things went dark afterwards.
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December 20, 2022, 05:05:02 AM

actually i think the Bulls should try to get Derrick Rose back and let him retire as a Bull.  Lonzo isn't going to be coming back any time soon if at all since he is still having knee troubles.  Based on the reception he got vs. the Knicks I really wish they would do that.

I doubt if they gonna do that because it was their decision to trade him when he was making a name in Chicago Bulls but when multiple injuries caught him and they see that he no longer passed those acrobatics moves he once had, they traded him and he cried because the team was really mean a lot for him back then. You can see from an interview on Youtube that while being traded, he cried because it broke his heart really bad that time. Prime Derrick Rose was so amazing and he is the primary reason why the Bulls is a popular team back in the 2010s.

That's unfortunate scene to see when he cry a lot after Bulls trading him and I doubt he will love to go there for what they done to him. But if fans will make this happen and Bulls will do it just for the hype then I think its still good recognition to him knowing he place the Bulls on good place when he is young and healthy.

There's a slim chance that this will happen but let see.
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December 20, 2022, 04:23:49 AM
Despite the fact that Siakam was able to get around his countryman in scoring, this did not help Toronto beat Philadelphia. Thus, their winning streak increases to five victories, well, this is a very good result after three losses in a row. And the Lakers still can't find their game, Davis and Westbock are injured and it's having too much of an impact on the team.
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December 20, 2022, 03:37:04 AM

actually i think the Bulls should try to get Derrick Rose back and let him retire as a Bull.  Lonzo isn't going to be coming back any time soon if at all since he is still having knee troubles.  Based on the reception he got vs. the Knicks I really wish they would do that.

I doubt if they gonna do that because it was their decision to trade him when he was making a name in Chicago Bulls but when multiple injuries caught him and they see that he no longer passed those acrobatics moves he once had, they traded him and he cried because the team was really mean a lot for him back then. You can see from an interview on Youtube that while being traded, he cried because it broke his heart really bad that time. Prime Derrick Rose was so amazing and he is the primary reason why the Bulls is a popular team back in the 2010s.
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December 20, 2022, 12:25:32 AM
For me, if Westbrick keeps on targeting triple-doubles it will not be enough, for me, I think do not target a triple-double but a huge output on scoring, like he recently have against the Nuggets it was an impressive triple-double but he needs to do more, and right now Anthony Davis has a foot injury that may cause some losing game for the Lakers but if Russell Westbrick would keep up his triple-double target it will not be enough I think he needs to do more on the scoring because Anthony Davis may return on December 19,

Did Westbrook still target a triple-double per game? Not that I noticed since becoming a 6th man and coming off the bench.

If he's good with rebounds and assists with fewer turnovers on average, that should do. It's not also good for him trying to make huge output on scoring. Refer to their last games and see how effective Westbrook is even not on his usual scoring.

Coach Ham is doing good so far utilizing Bryant, Reeves, Walker IV, and others. Good to see these players doing well with Lebron in the last game.
For me he isn't, or should I say his main goal isn't getting a triple double every game but, that's just how he plays right now. I mean he can do everything. He can rebound, he can be a passer and he can be a shooter as well though he is very awful on that aspect considering how much he's being paid right now.

Lakers are doing well compared to their first 10 games. Their chemistry is being built slowly. Coach Ham is slowly becoming a better coach right now and he utilizes his other players like Reeves, Walker and Schroeder. The problem right now is Davis being out for a month again. After him being the most dominant player to now getting injured again.

We know how impactful he is and how much he improved compared to last year. Now injuries are coming to him again and ruining his whole season. One month of him being out is a huge disaster to the Lakers already. Him playing and they are at the 12th spot still. How will the Lakers perform with him out for a month?
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December 19, 2022, 10:52:16 PM
Woowee it has been one heck of a rough year for the Chicago Bulls.  I watched a really good video yesterday which broke down the current state of the Chicago Bulls and gave a few suggestions/ideas of where they might want to head from this point- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdbKmmvsucI .

As a die hard bulls fan, without a mega-star, we don't have a chance. Period.  I'm a realist, and I realize though Lavine, DeRozan, Vucevic are good players, maybe even great..but not great enough.  Also with no Ball, they've got no chance.  In my opinion it's time to do some restructuring. 

I say the Bulls move DeRozan and try and move Vucevic as well.  They need more young talent to build upon while they try and find that mega-star (which is almost impossible, I'm certainly aware of).
actually i think the Bulls should try to get Derrick Rose back and let him retire as a Bull.  Lonzo isn't going to be coming back any time soon if at all since he is still having knee troubles.  Based on the reception he got vs. the Knicks I really wish they would do that.
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December 19, 2022, 10:42:21 PM
SGA did it again.
A winning buzzer-beater shot against the Portland Trail Blazers. I really thought it will be going to overtime after Damian Lillard made that 2 points shot under the rim. Well, unexpected things do happen and SGA is known to make shots like that, he ended with 35 points and 6 assists.
Trail Blazers 2-2 on their recent road trip, and Thunder 2-2 also on their home. Rematch in a couple of days at the same place, Oklahoma.

New Orleans Pelicans on the other hand just received their 4th losing streak against the Bucks.
Not looking good for the young Zion. Brandon Ingram's return will be their key to going back to winning more games.
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December 19, 2022, 08:06:32 PM
For me, if Westbrick keeps on targeting triple-doubles it will not be enough, for me, I think do not target a triple-double but a huge output on scoring, like he recently have against the Nuggets it was an impressive triple-double but he needs to do more, and right now Anthony Davis has a foot injury that may cause some losing game for the Lakers but if Russell Westbrick would keep up his triple-double target it will not be enough I think he needs to do more on the scoring because Anthony Davis may return on December 19,

Did Westbrook still target a triple-double per game? Not that I noticed since becoming a 6th man and coming off the bench.

If he's good with rebounds and assists with fewer turnovers on average, that should do. It's not also good for him trying to make huge output on scoring. Refer to their last games and see how effective Westbrook is even not on his usual scoring.

Coach Ham is doing good so far utilizing Bryant, Reeves, Walker IV, and others. Good to see these players doing well with Lebron in the last game.
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December 19, 2022, 06:51:33 PM
In today's NBA, you can't expect the supposed dominating teams to have always smooth wins against the underdogs.

I agree with this statement. That is why we see underdogs upset the favorites. Every team in the NBA can beat a top team given the right circumstance.

Maybe AD can be healthier if he is not the center of the team.
He's effective on that position but it's also known that he's just too prone to injuries. I think a less playing time or someone who can really tandem his athleticism will really help him to at least mitigate possible injuries.

But, it's part of it and no matter how many times he'll get injured. He'll still play as his but concerning his career, being injury prone, we saw the downfall of it from the other NBA players on where their careers have taken them.

What I am saying is, he gets bumped and banged in that position more than in position 4. That gives him the higher chance to get injured because he gets more contact with opponent teams. He is effective as center but if the Lakers want longevity and keep AD healthy, then moving him to Pos 4 is an option. Just saying.
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December 19, 2022, 06:43:48 PM
Maybe AD can be healthier if he is not the center of the team.
He's effective on that position but it's also known that he's just too prone to injuries. I think a less playing time or someone who can really tandem his athleticism will really help him to at least mitigate possible injuries.

But, it's part of it and no matter how many times he'll get injured. He'll still play as his but concerning his career, being injury prone, we saw the downfall of it from the other NBA players on where their careers have taken them.
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December 19, 2022, 06:34:32 PM
I'm not impressed with how they played, yes they won the game but Wizards are going to be the worst team this season as they are in a cold losing streak, currently at 10. Lakers has to show that they dominate a weak team while stay competitive against great teams, that's the only way they will be back in the playoff spot.

There might be some flaws in that game committed by the Lakers including that Lakers' last play where Lebron almost lose the ball but eventually recovered it and dish it to Bryant for a smooth dunk that gives them a lead. If that mistake happened, Lebron will surely get criticized even if he has a monster performance in that game.

Even that Lakers' win is not impressive to you, what matters here is they have won.

In today's NBA, you can't expect the supposed dominating teams to have always smooth wins against the underdogs.
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December 19, 2022, 06:30:50 PM
Woowee it has been one heck of a rough year for the Chicago Bulls.  I watched a really good video yesterday which broke down the current state of the Chicago Bulls and gave a few suggestions/ideas of where they might want to head from this point- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdbKmmvsucI .

As a die hard bulls fan, without a mega-star, we don't have a chance. Period.  I'm a realist, and I realize though Lavine, DeRozan, Vucevic are good players, maybe even great..but not great enough.  Also with no Ball, they've got no chance.  In my opinion it's time to do some restructuring. 

I say the Bulls move DeRozan and try and move Vucevic as well.  They need more young talent to build upon while they try and find that mega-star (which is almost impossible, I'm certainly aware of).
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December 19, 2022, 06:21:48 PM
Maybe in their next games, it will be Klay and then someone who had a break out game for their young core,

I do not expect much from Klay since his injury. He is not as explosive and defensive as before, but he is still very reliable. It is okay if Poole gets to be the center of their offense while Curry is out since he is one of the young cores. He needs that experience to develop leadership which he will need when the current cores are already retired.

... Moody and Kuminga and Wiseman because they are highly touted when they come into the NBA. And will be the next face of Warriors, if they can't proved themselves, then maybe they might find a new team next season.

These players are very young and have a lot of space for improvement. I do not know if they will be the face of the Warriors in the future but one thing I know is that they have potential. If you will trade them just because they did not perform in one season, then you are just like the Lakers, who throw away their young stars without waiting for them to peak. Look what those players are now, they are stars of their current team. These players need experience. Once they got that, and still do not contribute much, then it is time to trade them. But now, develop them and see what happens.

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December 19, 2022, 05:39:36 PM
We see some crazy scores this season but nobody can pass 60 points yet. The closest one was Embiid with 59. Who do you think will pass 60 first?

Embiid 59
Booker 58
Davis 55
Embiid 53
Booker 51
Garland 51
Curry 50

Booker when he is hot is hard to stop if i had to bet i would bet on Booker.
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December 19, 2022, 05:34:56 PM
We see some crazy scores this season but nobody can pass 60 points yet. The closest one was Embiid with 59. Who do you think will pass 60 first?

Embiid 59
Booker 58
Davis 55
Embiid 53
Booker 51
Garland 51
Curry 50
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December 19, 2022, 05:17:47 PM
For me, if Westbrick keeps on targeting triple-doubles it will not be enough, for me, I think do not target a triple-double but a huge output on scoring, like he recently have against the Nuggets it was an impressive triple-double but he needs to do more, and right now Anthony Davis has a foot injury that may cause some losing game for the Lakers but if Russell Westbrick would keep up his triple-double target it will not be enough I think he needs to do more on the scoring because Anthony Davis may return on December 19,

I think scoring isn't Westbrook's strong suit. Nevertheless, his ability to grab a lot of rebounds and make a lot of assists can be very useful for the Lakers, but only in those moments when Russ makes the minimum number of turnovers per game. As for Davis' absence, Thomas Bryant might partially replace him if he continues to perform as well as he did in the previous game against the Nuggets.

I barely see Westbrook create more than 20 points lately since he is now in the second unit. His best contributions are from his assists and rebounds. This is good since he keeps feeding Lebron and AD or anyone who is hot in the Lakers to keep them hot. 
Also, coach Ham started utilizing the former Wizards, Thomas Bryant as their center while Davis is having some issues and the results were better because they aren't that much having a hard time when Davis is not around.

Good observations. That's what the Lakers fans was talking about in their past games where AD was out. Ham did not gave Thomas Bryant enough game time so he can blend in with the rotation. Look at him now, he knows where to position himself offensively when LeBron or Westbrook is driving the lane or call for a pick and roll.
He can even grab good offensive rebounds and fights through the traffic to grab a rebounds. Hope he'll start at the Center again when AD gets back.
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