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By the way, I wonder if Roma goes to the Champions League, will Italy retain 2 tickets to the Europa League? I do not know this nuance.
I guess if it won't. It's caused by a team can't be affected by other team's success. That means if italy may be only getting 1 ticket for europa league. Roma was qualifying for europa league through serie a and juventus was below it. If roma will be winning europa league and it will be automatically qualified for UCL but juventus will remain to play in the conference league. Juventus can't get a place in europa league caused by as roma's success by winning europa league as team will be qualified for UCL. CMIIW
I don't think the system is like that.
Juventus' condition if they can't shift Roma they will still be in 7th place and there may not be a place for the Conference League.
I don't know for sure about this but still reflect on previous cases, especially for last season when Frankfurt automatically went to the Champions League because they won the Europa League, it was still counted and did not shift other clubs and representatives from the Bundesliga there were 5 clubs.
It is also possible that it will be the same but I don't know what will happen if Roma's current conference League slot and they qualify for the Champions League whether there is a change from another Serie A club (in this case Juventus) or not.
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no doubt Dybala is a good player. although he's having a not good season at the moment. but with the performance he has shown this season, Mourinho has his assessment of Dybala.
there are rumors he is ready to play in the final against Sevilla. whether forced to recover or not, what is clear is that Dybala has to work hard to recover from his injury as quickly as possible so he can return to the squad.
the best option that Mourinho could implement was to make Dybala a substitute who might be a savior for Roma and lead them to a championship.
in this season dybala is really needed by roma, he even gave roma a few wins against big teams but Roma was unable to finish in the top 5, it prevented them from getting a UCL ticket

roma will face spezia on the last matchday later, I wonder if dybala will score a goal or even roma will be defeated
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By the way, I wonder if Roma goes to the Champions League, will Italy retain 2 tickets to the Europa League? I do not know this nuance.
I guess if it won't. It's caused by a team can't be affected by other team's success. That means if italy may be only getting 1 ticket for europa league. Roma was qualifying for europa league through serie a and juventus was below it. If roma will be winning europa league and it will be automatically qualified for UCL but juventus will remain to play in the conference league. Juventus can't get a place in europa league caused by as roma's success by winning europa league as team will be qualified for UCL. CMIIW

What I think is that if Roma win the Europa League if they are going to have a secure place, it has nothing to do with whether it is an Italian Team or any other team from another Country , if they win they win that right, then it has nothing to do , the case of Juve is something else , if they were relegated it was their fault and there is nothing to do , if they managed to get hooked with a 4th place in Serie A they would still go, there is nothing to get in the way, because those are the conditions of these championships , also in fútbol this type of thing can Happen and they would not end the Balance of the championship.
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Did you see Juventus' defeat to AC Milan as normal? I am putting Juventus ahead of AC Milan in all aspects starting from performance. Against AC Milan I thought Juventus would pretty much secure a win but they failed. How do you see this defeat?
It didn't come as a surprise that Juventus lost. Look at how the players played in the field. Apparently, their spirits are down most of players looked want to end the game or season quickly. This season is just not for Juventus - the deduction of points and being stuck with the manager Allegri  who seems very adamant to change his tactics together with a bunch of incompetent management team. It is so unreal that a team who used to be feared is now looking like they need to be relegated to Serie B so that they can learn all over again how to be champions.
The time has not been good for Juventus.  but one thing is at this moment it feels like they are still in a good chance of finishing in the top six. Roma has to lose the next match and Juventus has to win the next for Juventus to finish in the top 6.  Roma is not in the best of form right now. So it's certain that Roma will be able to win the last match.

If Juventus can win the last match they will be ending the season with a good positive mindset and also will be able to finish in the top 6.  that will be a good positive to take away from this season for Juventus after what has happened to them throughout the whole season.
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Roma will not want to take any risks now. They will want to focus entirely on one side. Several important players of Roma are already injured. And so Mourinho will not want to take any risk in the match against Spezia. I guess Roma will try to draw the match by playing completely defensively in this match. The Roma team will not want to be defeated in the home match.
I don't fully understand what you mean about Roma vs Spezia. In fact the match was played after the Europa League final against Sevilla so if Roma fail to win the Europa League title to win Champions League tickets, then obviously the match against Spezia will be very important.

At the moment Roma only need to mentally and physically prepare their players to play the Europa League final on Thursday night in my time zone, so the game against Spezia will only be thought about after the final is over.

The Europa League final is very important for Mourinho. He has been fighting for the Europa League title since the start of the season. Although Roma's performance in Serie A has been erratic, Roma has played very well in the Europa League. Mourinho will try his best to win the Europa League title by defeating Sevilla.
Both teams have strugle hard to reach the final, but Sevilla's journey to the final was really tough so I believe they can win the title. Compared to Roma, I tend to believe Sevilla will win the final match this season.
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I regret to say that Dybala has had serious issues with injuries during this season. Maybe these injury time periods haven't lasted very long but he got injured quite often between October 2022 and May 2023. In this time interval he missed 18 matches in total which is a really serious amount in my opinion. This must be really annoying for Dybala also.

Because he was actually very helpful for Roma during the times he was able to play. He made a great contribution with 16 goals and 8 assists as a second striker mostly. This injury problem has even caused Mourinho to not prefer him in the starting eleven from time to time. But I hope he doesn't get injured this often next season because I believe he is one of the crucial players for Roma.

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Dybala could have been one of the best in the world if not for his almost regular injuries. He has been falling in different injuries quite regularly. That is also a reason why he has to stay away for so many matches in one season.

Right now I do not know if Roma is actually thinking about bringing in someone else to be there if Dybala is injured. But at the same time when he is not injured, he is very useful for the team. So they cannot also let him go. I believe he should take care of his health when he is on the field. He is very injury prone so he should always know his limit. The problem is football has become so physical right now. It is actually very hard to not give a hundred percent whenever you are at the field.
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Did you see Juventus' defeat to AC Milan as normal? I am putting Juventus ahead of AC Milan in all aspects starting from performance. Against AC Milan I thought Juventus would pretty much secure a win but they failed. How do you see this defeat?
It didn't come as a surprise that Juventus lost. Look at how the players played in the field. Apparently, their spirits are down most of players looked want to end the game or season quickly. This season is just not for Juventus - the deduction of points and being stuck with the manager Allegri  who seems very adamant to change his tactics together with a bunch of incompetent management team. It is so unreal that a team who used to be feared is now looking like they need to be relegated to Serie B so that they can learn all over again how to be champions.
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Because he was actually very helpful for Roma during the times he was able to play. He made a great contribution with 16 goals and 8 assists as a second striker mostly. This injury problem has even caused Mourinho to not prefer him in the starting eleven from time to time. But I hope he doesn't get injured this often next season because I believe he is one of the crucial players for Roma.

no doubt Dybala is a good player. although he's having a not good season at the moment. but with the performance he has shown this season, Mourinho has his assessment of Dybala.
there are rumors he is ready to play in the final against Sevilla. whether forced to recover or not, what is clear is that Dybala has to work hard to recover from his injury as quickly as possible so he can return to the squad.
the best option that Mourinho could implement was to make Dybala a substitute who might be a savior for Roma and lead them to a championship.
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By the way, I wonder if Roma goes to the Champions League, will Italy retain 2 tickets to the Europa League? I do not know this nuance.
I guess if it won't. It's caused by a team can't be affected by other team's success. That means if italy may be only getting 1 ticket for europa league. Roma was qualifying for europa league through serie a and juventus was below it. If roma will be winning europa league and it will be automatically qualified for UCL but juventus will remain to play in the conference league. Juventus can't get a place in europa league caused by as roma's success by winning europa league as team will be qualified for UCL. CMIIW

Maybe so, but in this case, a rather interesting paradox is possible: for example, the team that takes 5th place in the championship wins the Champions League (and obviously gets into the Champions League next year), the team that takes 6th place wins the Europa League (and will also qualify for the Champions League). Thus, the country in which such an interesting alignment arose gets zero places in the Europa League?
I think it's very funny, I would like to see this with my own eyes.
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the situation could be profitable for Juventus if Roma loses or draw in the last game. and Juventus got the win. that would make 1 Europa League ticket for Juventus. now all they can hope for is the luck of the outcome of Roma vs Spezia. although we know Roma will not waste this precious opportunity either. they can go to the UCL if they become Europa League winners. Roma will have to work hard to beat Sevilla
Roma also hasn't won in the last 5 matches, so I think in the last match, at least against Spezia, they have to win because that will risk them qualifying for the European league, even if they fail in the final then there is still hope for the next season. especially to win the European League title, of course it will be a great achievement with Mourinho.

Juventus will also be waiting for the match between Roma vs Spezia as long as they can win the match with Udinese as the away team, well this will be very interesting Roma also certainly won't let it drop points again this is very important for them.

On the other hand, Spezia and Verona both want to get out of their degradation.
But Spezia looks like it will be a fairly easy opponent for Rome. Although Roma are also not in their best condition at the moment. But after seeing Spezia lose 4-0 to Torino. So I think Rome also has great potential to win this match. And Roma also definitely don't want a ticket to the Europa League to slip out of their hands. So it seems that Juventus really need a miracle if they expect Roma to lose to Spezia in the last match. Bad luck for Juventus this season really makes me concerned for the club. Because without the sanctions they received they should be in 2nd place. And now Juventus also seem to have lost their motivation. and suffered 2 consecutive defeats since getting a 10 point deduction because of the sanctions they received.
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Juventus had the worst season they could have and there are not guilty of it because they lost some points during this season due to the penalty and it had a negative effect on the team. Maybe that's the team didn't have a good atmosphere at all and they lost the game against Ac MIlan with a 1-0 result when they could even beat Ac MIlan in a normal situation.
Next week they have to face Udinese and this can be an easy game for them because, in the last five games, these two teams had against each other, Udinese could never beat Juventus and last time in this season Juventus won the game with a 1-0 result.
I agree with you Juventus had a terrible season. Seventh place in Serie A, remained without the Champions League for the first time in 12 years, but the worst thing is that for two years we do not see any development, only regression. No trophies won in 2 years, which for a club with such a history and potential is also a failure.
Maybe Juventus management have only Allegri's contacts in their notebook and they just can't get through to other top coaches.

While the strategy of the club's management remains a mystery, what they will do is unclear. Apparently they do not want to change Allegri, because you can make it worse and that's the only reason they tolerate him for now.
Their many internal problems as well as the poor condition of the players has no doubt made them in this position now.
In fact, this also cannot be completely blamed on performance because indeed if there is no mistake from the higher ups in their finances and they don't do anything dirty then they are still in the top standings but bad things do happen. an actual mistake on purpose deserves a penalty and now the points deduction that sent them down to 7th place is inevitable.
Serie A is certainly a strange league and now it's hard to know whether Juventus is to blame or not, but considering what games sometimes happen in Serie A, we can believe that Juventus is not without sin either.

But still the lack of progress at the club is evident, the scandal with the departure of Ronaldo, then the uncertainty with the transfers, when players are taken for a lot of money, and they, like Paul Pogba or Marcial, almost do not play.
In general, it seems that the mess at the club comes from the management, which can not decide on the future of the club. 
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I agree with you Juventus had a terrible season. Seventh place in Serie A, remained without the Champions League for the first time in 12 years, but the worst thing is that for two years we do not see any development, only regression. No trophies won in 2 years, which for a club with such a history and potential is also a failure.
Maybe Juventus management have only Allegri's contacts in their notebook and they just can't get through to other top coaches.

While the strategy of the club's management remains a mystery, what they will do is unclear. Apparently they do not want to change Allegri, because you can make it worse and that's the only reason they tolerate him for now.
when it comes to the decline in the quality of the game, it's not just Juventus who are experiencing it, several big teams in Italy such as Milan and Rome are experiencing a period of the bottom of their squad. I'm not sure whether in the next season Allegri can return to make Juventus' performance uphill, but one thing I'm sure of, Allegri is still the right coach for Juventus, there will be no point in replacing his position.
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Juventus had the worst season they could have and there are not guilty of it because they lost some points during this season due to the penalty and it had a negative effect on the team. Maybe that's the team didn't have a good atmosphere at all and they lost the game against Ac MIlan with a 1-0 result when they could even beat Ac MIlan in a normal situation.
Next week they have to face Udinese and this can be an easy game for them because, in the last five games, these two teams had against each other, Udinese could never beat Juventus and last time in this season Juventus won the game with a 1-0 result.
I agree with you Juventus had a terrible season. Seventh place in Serie A, remained without the Champions League for the first time in 12 years, but the worst thing is that for two years we do not see any development, only regression. No trophies won in 2 years, which for a club with such a history and potential is also a failure.
Maybe Juventus management have only Allegri's contacts in their notebook and they just can't get through to other top coaches.

While the strategy of the club's management remains a mystery, what they will do is unclear. Apparently they do not want to change Allegri, because you can make it worse and that's the only reason they tolerate him for now.
Their many internal problems as well as the poor condition of the players has no doubt made them in this position now.
In fact, this also cannot be completely blamed on performance because indeed if there is no mistake from the higher ups in their finances and they don't do anything dirty then they are still in the top standings but bad things do happen. an actual mistake on purpose deserves a penalty and now the points deduction that sent them down to 7th place is inevitable.
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the situation could be profitable for Juventus if Roma loses or draw in the last game. and Juventus got the win. that would make 1 Europa League ticket for Juventus. now all they can hope for is the luck of the outcome of Roma vs Spezia. although we know Roma will not waste this precious opportunity either. they can go to the UCL if they become Europa League winners. Roma will have to work hard to beat Sevilla
Roma also hasn't won in the last 5 matches, so I think in the last match, at least against Spezia, they have to win because that will risk them qualifying for the European league, even if they fail in the final then there is still hope for the next season. especially to win the European League title, of course it will be a great achievement with Mourinho.

Juventus will also be waiting for the match between Roma vs Spezia as long as they can win the match with Udinese as the away team, well this will be very interesting Roma also certainly won't let it drop points again this is very important for them.

On the other hand, Spezia and Verona both want to get out of their degradation.
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Juventus had the worst season they could have and there are not guilty of it because they lost some points during this season due to the penalty and it had a negative effect on the team. Maybe that's the team didn't have a good atmosphere at all and they lost the game against Ac MIlan with a 1-0 result when they could even beat Ac MIlan in a normal situation.
Next week they have to face Udinese and this can be an easy game for them because, in the last five games, these two teams had against each other, Udinese could never beat Juventus and last time in this season Juventus won the game with a 1-0 result.
I agree with you Juventus had a terrible season. Seventh place in Serie A, remained without the Champions League for the first time in 12 years, but the worst thing is that for two years we do not see any development, only regression. No trophies won in 2 years, which for a club with such a history and potential is also a failure.
Maybe Juventus management have only Allegri's contacts in their notebook and they just can't get through to other top coaches.

While the strategy of the club's management remains a mystery, what they will do is unclear. Apparently they do not want to change Allegri, because you can make it worse and that's the only reason they tolerate him for now.
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You had better check the league rules again mate.  Smiley

Besides I didn't say that Juventus' beating Milan by at least two goals would carry them ahead of Milan right away. It looks like you didn't read my post careful enough but no problem. I said that if Juventus win against them like that they were going to have one last chance on the final week of the season. In that case let's say Juventus won and Milan got a draw or loss, then Juventus would take the fourth position from them as a result.  I hope you get my point now.
If I am not wrong this applies when the points are equal and the goal difference is equal too, is it not? I think that's the third thing that is looked it, is it the second? I always thought first the points, then the goal difference and then the head to head to check the rankings. If the goal difference doesn't matter does that mean Juventus could have 8 less difference, and could still win with 1 goal difference at head to head for example?

That doesn't feel rewarding, you play so many games all season long and you are better, but because of one bad game that means you are ranked lower due to head to head, it's unfair looking. Obviously the federation knows more than I do so if they did this then they might have considered all options I suppose.
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I regret to say that Dybala has had serious issues with injuries during this season. Maybe these injury time periods haven't lasted very long but he got injured quite often between October 2022 and May 2023. In this time interval he missed 18 matches in total which is a really serious amount in my opinion. This must be really annoying for Dybala also.

Because he was actually very helpful for Roma during the times he was able to play. He made a great contribution with 16 goals and 8 assists as a second striker mostly. This injury problem has even caused Mourinho to not prefer him in the starting eleven from time to time. But I hope he doesn't get injured this often next season because I believe he is one of the crucial players for Roma.

The injury history:

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Lazio's opponent was the relegated Cremonese and of course they managed to win against their opponent.Although it was not an easy match for them, they had a small advantage because they were playing at home.They closed the first half 2-0 ahead with the goals they found in the first half.In the second half, Cremonese, who started fast and looked for goals, brought the situation to a draw in 13 minutes.They could not prevent Milinkovic's goal in the last minutes and they were defeated.
In the last and important match of the day, Milan managed to defeat juventus 1-0 away.Milan, who beat juventus away with the goal scored by giroud in the first half, increased their points to 67 while juventus remained on 59 points.Juventus could have won and they could have placed 5th with this win, but they could not take advantage of it.
Did you see Juventus' defeat to AC Milan as normal? I am putting Juventus ahead of AC Milan in all aspects starting from performance. Against AC Milan I thought Juventus would pretty much secure a win but they failed. How do you see this defeat?
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But I think Roma also don't want to take risks in the match against Spezia. So maybe this match is not a priority for Roma because they are more preparing the team for the Europa League final. Of course the position in the standings in the race for a place in the Europa League next season is tough again. Juventus will most likely finish in that position even though it depends on the results of Roma vs Spezia.

Roma will not want to take any risks now. They will want to focus entirely on one side. Several important players of Roma are already injured. And so Mourinho will not want to take any risk in the match against Spezia. I guess Roma will try to draw the match by playing completely defensively in this match. The Roma team will not want to be defeated in the home match.
The Europa League final is very important for Mourinho. He has been fighting for the Europa League title since the start of the season. Although Roma's performance in Serie A has been erratic, Roma has played very well in the Europa League. Mourinho will try his best to win the Europa League title by defeating Sevilla.
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Lazio's opponent was the relegated Cremonese and of course they managed to win against their opponent.Although it was not an easy match for them, they had a small advantage because they were playing at home.They closed the first half 2-0 ahead with the goals they found in the first half.In the second half, Cremonese, who started fast and looked for goals, brought the situation to a draw in 13 minutes.They could not prevent Milinkovic's goal in the last minutes and they were defeated.
In the last and important match of the day, Milan managed to defeat juventus 1-0 away.Milan, who beat juventus away with the goal scored by giroud in the first half, increased their points to 67 while juventus remained on 59 points.Juventus could have won and they could have placed 5th with this win, but they could not take advantage of it.
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