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Investors are geared up and peace talks are on the horizon and Wall Street's stance against war is clear. Youre right to keep an eye on Sweden because recent currency falls might signal big moves. As Russia withdraws from Ukraine, the northern front could heat up.


Currency show's alot about country.
Btw...The ukraine,poland,baltics,finland,sweden are Z countries place Z on eu map and you get what the Z means.
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Investors are geared up and peace talks are on the horizon and Wall Street's stance against war is clear. Youre right to keep an eye on Sweden because recent currency falls might signal big moves. As Russia withdraws from Ukraine, the northern front could heat up.
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Hopefully the war will end soon but I think the person who needs convincing on that is Putin. Zelensky would agree to end the war today but Putin might need more convincing. Too much damage has been caused & too many people have been injured & killed. I hope for peace ASAP.
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Also, Russian attacking Sweden is very unlikely because, even though that country does not belong to the NATO, it is still part of the European Union. It is a big diffirence between being aggressive against a non-aligned eastern European country than attacking a Nordic country like Sweden.
What excuse could Russia possibly use to try to fool their population and the world about their reasons to wage war against Sweden? I can't think of anything.
Yeah, that part about Sweden doesn't makes much sense. If Russia would prepare for another invasion, I doubt that Sweden would be their first target. Probably it would Poland, Baltic states, Finland maybe.


Finland and Russia have a very long story when comes to conflict of major scale, they both were involved in the Second Word War. I believe Findland first allied with Nazi Germany and later they turned against it, in favor of the Allies.
Anyways, Poland also has a long history of Russia (as the Soviet Union) trying to take over it and annex it by force, but being Poland part of the European Union, I still makes me skeptical whether Russia would be so reckless to try to face such a conglomerate of countries which back each other.
On the other hand, Donald Trump has alledgely declared in the past and off the record that he would not have intentions to support Europa if it's countries were to be attacked. That leads me to think that Putin would feel very reasured if Trump was reelected as president of the United States, so the Kremlin can continue to carry out it's plans, having a American president who is friendly/submissive to Russia as Donald seems to be.

Sometimes, It makes me consider those nasty tapes of Trump secretly recorded by Putin's secret agents could actually exist and being used to blackmail him into doing whatever is good for Russia, from the White House.
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Also, Russian attacking Sweden is very unlikely because, even though that country does not belong to the NATO, it is still part of the European Union. It is a big diffirence between being aggressive against a non-aligned eastern European country than attacking a Nordic country like Sweden.
What excuse could Russia possibly use to try to fool their population and the world about their reasons to wage war against Sweden? I can't think of anything.
Yeah, that part about Sweden doesn't makes much sense. If Russia would prepare for another invasion, I doubt that Sweden would be their first target. Probably it would Poland, Baltic states, Finland maybe.

Makes sense. It is widely popular among Ukranian youth that zelensky gets $1 for each Russian or Ukranian killed on the battlefield. If Zelensky takes a high interest loan now before he fled and let Russia takeover, it would be Russian responsibility to pay the loan. What we need to remember is organization like IMF, World Bank, EBRD, EIB has already provided huge loans with higher interest rates and they expect to get return on it.
I heard many conspiracy theories about Zelensky, but this one is something new. Getting $1 for each Ukrainian and Russian killed is cheap, he would need 1 million people to get killed to become millionaire.
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Makes sense. It is widely popular among Ukranian youth that zelensky gets $1 for each Russian or Ukranian killed on the battlefield.
Well, I don't really know if Zelensky gains from the deaths of both the Russian and Ukrainian soldiers and that could be widely speculation, but if it were to be true, why then would he seek for the help of Black rock Investment if he can make a lot from that?
It's just that the West just know how to get to those they need something from. For Ukraine, it was initial support albeit covertly, against Russia. And now it seems enlisting the help of Black rock just makes the work easy. Like I said, the plan between Zelensky and Black rock is to ensure Ukraine is ripe enough for investors to dig in but I wont be surprised if the majority of said investors will be from the West.
 
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Blackrock already wants to start building in Ukraine,
You mean strategically demolish it? On the periphery, it looks like they are investing and helping in the building of Ukraine, but we know that Black rock  would want 7% of everything when it's time. Right now, Zelensky has entered into an agreement with Black rock to set up a fund to help restore Ukraine to the way it was before Russia happened and we hope to see a better Ukraine by the time everything is done .
 Meanwhile there's those who feel that by this brokerage of sorts it's inevitable that the West (America) will want to assume control over them since they literally depend on them, it's kind of made the job simple and if I'm not mistaken, was that not what Putin said he was fighting against?

Makes sense. It is widely popular among Ukranian youth that zelensky gets $1 for each Russian or Ukranian killed on the battlefield. If Zelensky takes a high interest loan now before he fled and let Russia takeover, it would be Russian responsibility to pay the loan. What we need to remember is organization like IMF, World Bank, EBRD, EIB has already provided huge loans with higher interest rates and they expect to get return on it.

Nothing comes for free in this world even If you print money the value must comes from something.
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Blackrock already wants to start building in Ukraine,
You mean strategically demolish it? On the periphery, it looks like they are investing and helping in the building of Ukraine, but we know that Black rock  would want 7% of everything when it's time. Right now, Zelensky has entered into an agreement with Black rock to set up a fund to help restore Ukraine to the way it was before Russia happened and we hope to see a better Ukraine by the time everything is done .
 Meanwhile there's those who feel that by this brokerage of sorts it's inevitable that the West (America) will want to assume control over them since they literally depend on them, it's kind of made the job simple and if I'm not mistaken, was that not what Putin said he was fighting against?

Makes sense. It is widely popular among Ukranian youth that zelensky gets $1 for each Russian or Ukranian killed on the battlefield. If Zelensky takes a high interest loan now before he fled and let Russia takeover, it would be Russian responsibility to pay the loan. What we need to remember is organization like IMF, World Bank, EBRD, EIB has already provided huge loans with higher interest rates and they expect to get return on it.
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If everything would be so simple as you say... Fact that Ukraine reached agreement with BlackRock and JPMorgan doesn't means anything. There is lot of various kind of agreements reached, but everything will go in action only after end of war. And now there is no signs that war may end anytime soon. Unless you know something more than we know.

It is pure speculation, nothing more, It is very unlikely OP has confidential information in his hands about the developing of the conflict and also about possible movements in the market as big as those. If a civilian had such a big privileged information about them it would make more sense to use it to profit off the market than sharing all of it in a open forum like this one.
Also, Russian attacking Sweden is very unlikely because, even though that country does not belong to the NATO, it is still part of the European Union. It is a big diffirence between being aggressive against a non-aligned eastern European country than attacking a Nordic country like Sweden.
What excuse could Russia possibly use to try to fool their population and the world about their reasons to wage war against Sweden? I can't think of anything.
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...and the fighting still goes on.

as above Ukraine can make as many deals it wants with its friends and supporters but
it doesnt mean anything unless there is an end to the fighting, Russia doesnt care about
Ukraines investment allies.

Despite this war that shouldnt have happened and is close to 700 days old the time was
up to stop about 650 days ago.
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If everything would be so simple as you say... Fact that Ukraine reached agreement with BlackRock and JPMorgan doesn't means anything. There is lot of various kind of agreements reached, but everything will go in action only after end of war. And now there is no signs that war may end anytime soon. Unless you know something more than we know.
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Blackrock already wants to start building in Ukraine,
You mean strategically demolish it? On the periphery, it looks like they are investing and helping in the building of Ukraine, but we know that Black rock  would want 7% of everything when it's time. Right now, Zelensky has entered into an agreement with Black rock to set up a fund to help restore Ukraine to the way it was before Russia happened and we hope to see a better Ukraine by the time everything is done .
 Meanwhile there's those who feel that by this brokerage of sorts it's inevitable that the West (America) will want to assume control over them since they literally depend on them, it's kind of made the job simple and if I'm not mistaken, was that not what Putin said he was fighting against?
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What would be more welcoming news than a war coming to end and I don't see this war coming to an end anytime sooner because both West and Russia both are stubborn. This could end only if Ukraine let go off their NATO membership bid as whatever West and Europe are doing is not enough to reduce the casualties in Ukraine and if this continues then Ukraine will slowly vanish as it's just a pawn in the proxy war between West and Russia. Really sad to see how they have been dragged into this war. Either there should be a strong response until every single Russian soldier leaves Ukraine or else there should be a pact to solve things over the table instead of battleground.
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This is probably good news if this happens. Blackrock has the task of reconstructing the infrastructure, but the fact is that the war is not over and the damage Ukraine sustained is unimaginable. It will take years to rebuild everything. The cost of rebuilding is also huge ($400+ Billion).
I am hoping for an end to the Russia-Ukraine war for the greater good.
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What we need to realize is it's not a simple mathematics when it comes to war. I would never say there would never be a war between Russia and Sweden, circumstances may one day lead to it. But in contemporary times, I don't expect Sweden to attack Russia anytime soon even though they have an economic crisis.
Ukraine could be a good place to invest but it would be wiser to wait for the war to end.

I don't except nothing myself i can't change nothing myself all i can tell is just by indicators and numbers.
Finances and economics and wars are related with each other always and it's process what's repeating over and over again.
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What we need to realize is it's not a simple mathematics when it comes to war. I would never say there would never be a war between Russia and Sweden, circumstances may one day lead to it. But in contemporary times, I don't expect Sweden to attack Russia anytime soon even though they have an economic crisis.
Ukraine could be a good place to invest but it would be wiser to wait for the war to end.
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Blackrock already wants to start building in Ukraine, so the time is up and there is not much time left, because the investors are also all ready to start investing.
Peace talks will probably start and wall street will make it clear that it doesn't like war there anymore.
When peace begins in Ukraine, the Swedish war front will probably be opened, which is not a surprise to anyone, because the Swedish currency has fallen recently, and if we look at the "orders of the Swedish currency", we can clearly see that the country is preparing for something very big.
While the russia will take army out of ukraine so can focus on northern fight.
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