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Topic: SatoshiGrid.com - Find the secret spot and win BTC [Official Thread] (Read 777 times)

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Sagrid you just anawered a one month old post!
Why did it took you so long?

I was working in other stuffs and missed the reply. Sorry Sad
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Sagrid you just anawered a one month old post!
Why did it took you so long?
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Not provably fair at all to me. You just prove you don't change the prizes positions after the game starts, but that does not prevent you to win the pot whenever you decide (you know where it is).
Provably fair means you cannot influence the result (even towards yourself), it's not the case here.


Example: whenever half of the spots have been chosen and the pot not found yet, you fake playing like a normal player and win the pot (you know where it is). You win 50% of highest possible pot at that time, and that will happen half of the time (probability to reach half of the spots without the pot being discovered is 0.5).
Rest of the time, a "normal" player will win before half of the spots are chosen.

That is: you earn (0.5 * MAX_WIN), 50% of the games. And you lose less than (0.5 * MAX_WIN), the other 50% of the game.
=> You win overall (additionally to potential house hedge) and nobody can notice anything.

This is just an example, but your hidden edge can be made arbitrarily high, so in theory you can give yourself an house edge of say, 80%, without nobody being able to tell.



I agree, but as far as I can tell there's nothing I can do to prove it. I'm an entrepreneur, the idea was to create something different, a new game concept (all are focus in satoshidice's clones). I understand your concern, but is a limitation since the nature of the game. 
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Still wild and free
Not provably fair at all to me. You just prove you don't change the prizes positions after the game starts, but that does not prevent you to win the pot whenever you decide (you know where it is).
Provably fair means you cannot influence the result (even towards yourself), it's not the case here.


Example: whenever half of the spots have been chosen and the pot not found yet, you fake playing like a normal player and win the pot (you know where it is). You win 50% of highest possible pot at that time, and that will happen half of the time (probability to reach half of the spots without the pot being discovered is 0.5).
Rest of the time, a "normal" player will win before half of the spots are chosen.

That is: you earn (0.5 * MAX_WIN), 50% of the games. And you lose less than (0.5 * MAX_WIN), the other 50% of the game.
=> You win overall (additionally to potential house hedge) and nobody can notice anything.

This is just an example, but your hidden edge can be made arbitrarily high, so in theory you can give yourself an house edge of say, 80%, without nobody being able to tell.
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It looks cool, but what is the expected return? I'm seeing a very large number of empty spaces and a very small number of multipliers, all of them 2x.
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Interesting idea/concept, well done.
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I like this game. Great,clean design and provably fair.

Glad you like it!
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Bitdice is scam scam scammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I like this game. Great,clean design and provably fair.
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To play, go to: http://www.satoshigrid.com

HOW TO PLAY?

The POT is hidden somewhere in the grid in one of the yellow blocks

Your bet consists on clicking a block in order to discover the position of the pot. The pot keeps getting bigger for every bet received. The bet rises as the probabilities of finding the secret block increases. In other words, the fewer free blocks available, the higher the probabilities to discover the POT’s position and therefore the higher the bet needed to unlock a block.

As soon as the POT position is discovered a new grid will be set.


The winner takes it all!!


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