I have asked that you all post in this thread. There are all types of scams out there, so to protect myself - as well as to bring to light any attempted scams so we're all aware.
Here's PM log with ruggedman_dan. I'm not saying ruggedman_dan is a scammer or that he tried to scam me, but he's been suspected of taking MP funds from a user here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/80-mp-for-btc-600079 That issue is still unresolved. Also it appears that he's done business with team8652 (positive feedback) who's also trying to get me to send first. The majority of ruggedman_dan's feedback are from new members - and there's no reference link for trades from members with positive feedback themselves. It didn't help that when I offered for him to send first he changed his mind.
Hi,
I responded to you in thread. I'd like to do as much communication as possible for transparency.
What's up?
Yes I like to make my trades public as well.
I would like to buy 2 bitcoins from you at a rate of Bitstamp -1%. I always welcome escrow, but I do like to point out that I have good rep and I have had people send me thousands of dollars first, without escrow. No issues, just good trades.
I prefer to use localbitcoins.com for escrow.
Western Union is ok, but I would prefer to use Walmart to Walmart transfer. It works just like a Western Union except you have to pick it up at Walmart and the fees are cheaper.
Let me know what you think. I would like to do this in the next few hours. Thanks!
Hi,
I'll give you 1% of you buy 3 coins. If I'm going to use LBC escrow, I might as well sell them there and at a premium. I'd rather use someone here on this site for escrow.
I don't mind using the Walmart transfer either...
The most I can buy today is 2.5 BTC.
Of course you can always sell on LBC at a premium, but I am a trusted buyer. On LBC, all types of jerks open trades an never really intend to complete them. I only suggested them as escrow because using their system is so much faster and efficient than waiting around for an escrow guy here. We can trade at our own pace instead of being on someone else's watch.
Anyway, if you find an escrow agent here in the next few hours, great. We can do that. You can also send first and we can make the whole thing public.
My offers are:
2.5 BTC at Bitstamp -1%
2 BTC at Bitstamp last
I cover all sending fees but you cover escrow if you'd prefer to use it.
Let me know. Thanks.
Hi, I'm good with 2.5 BTC at Bitstamp -1% I will not send first... you only just recently got your feedback in the last couple of weeks, yet your account is from 2013. How do I know this isn't a sold account?
Also, escrow is to protect the buyer, so you'll have to cover the cost. Most of the guys here don't actually charge anything. It's to protect you - not me, because I'm the one who's selling. You are always free to pay first if you don't want to use escrow here. And I won't be pressured into thinking that I'm going to lose out if it's done within the next couple of hours.
I actually have rep that goes back even before the trust system existed. Just do a last post search on me. I have been trading here for a long time. I just have been more active as of late because I have a little money to play with.
Anyway I am fine with your terms and all and I am not trying to rush you. But I am a busy guy. I work and I have a 2 year old so I don't have all day to wait on an escrow guy.
But you are the one who wants escrow so you'll have to find the guy you want to do it. I already offered my solution.
I would like to trade with you but I am trying to get this done by 7PM EST at the latest. So it is on you now.
Thanks.
Hi, I suggested escrow because I'm not sending first. If you'd like, you can gladly send payment first. I'll then the coins once it's confirmed that I have payment in hand. Again, escrow is for your benefit - not mine. If you want to deal without escrow, that's fine - but I'm not sending first. You've been around for a while, you know this.
No thanks.
I will just wait for my usual sellers to get more coin.
Thanks anyway.
Of course - that's what I thought. I'm posting all of our PMs in the thread by the way. Not because I think you're a scammer, but because that was the requirement.
I don't want to do a deal via PM, as stated in my original post. Please reach out to me in the open first. We can deal with the specifics via PM.
I will say this again - I will NOT go first. Please find someone to use for escrow. Please don't PM asking for me to go first. If so, I will post the PM here.