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Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 25928. (Read 26708415 times)

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playing pasta and eating mandolinos
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Long position at $466. No fucks are given. Bring it on. Right through that $500. The market is ready.
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The signal to noise ratio on the entire forum seems to slowly erode as time goes on (Bitcoin becomes more popular/increases in value).
There are public sector employees/contractors who get paid to do that to forums.
...with your money.

The above statement seems to be unspecified anti-government fear mongering for the mere sake of spreading anti-government FUD.

Justusranvier should realize (but maybe he does NOT or he does NOT want to) that Public employees are NOT generally engaged in this kind of nefarious activities, so more likely the referred to activities are to be agents of various financial institutions or entities or individuals and/or other private wealthy status quo interests. 

And to the extent that government employees may be involved in such nefarious activities (at the direction of private financial institutions or preservation of the money system or whatever), these kinds of activities are somewhat speculative and would NOT be carried out with transparency and/or in the public interest.

Additionally, there are a lot of good and decent activities carried out by public sector employees on a daily basis... Accordingly, it is NOT a good and public interest use of government resources if they were to be employed in trolling activities...   Yet, I would NOT consider that "no government officials" are carrying out trolling b/c there could be some and some misguided and nefarious government branches (which there are some that are engaged in spying and social repression), yet trolling kinds of activities from government employees should be discouraged and frowned upon if they were to come to the attention of regular people who should have more influences in the direction of their (anti-people) government and its policies and practices than they seem to have in modern times.

Government shill detected.

Hahahahaha  Play nice, children.
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The signal to noise ratio on the entire forum seems to slowly erode as time goes on (Bitcoin becomes more popular/increases in value).
There are public sector employees/contractors who get paid to do that to forums.
...with your money.

The above statement seems to be unspecified anti-government fear mongering for the mere sake of spreading anti-government FUD.

Justusranvier should realize (but maybe he does NOT or he does NOT want to) that Public employees are NOT generally engaged in this kind of nefarious activities, so more likely the referred to activities are to be agents of various financial institutions or entities or individuals and/or other private wealthy status quo interests. 

And to the extent that government employees may be involved in such nefarious activities (at the direction of private financial institutions or preservation of the money system or whatever), these kinds of activities are somewhat speculative and would NOT be carried out with transparency and/or in the public interest.

Additionally, there are a lot of good and decent activities carried out by public sector employees on a daily basis... Accordingly, it is NOT a good and public interest use of government resources if they were to be employed in trolling activities...   Yet, I would NOT consider that "no government officials" are carrying out trolling b/c there could be some and some misguided and nefarious government branches (which there are some that are engaged in spying and social repression), yet trolling kinds of activities from government employees should be discouraged and frowned upon if they were to come to the attention of regular people who should have more influences in the direction of their (anti-people) government and its policies and practices than they seem to have in modern times.

Government shill detected.
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
The signal to noise ratio on the entire forum seems to slowly erode as time goes on (Bitcoin becomes more popular/increases in value).
There are public sector employees/contractors who get paid to do that to forums.
...with your money.

The above statement seems to be unspecified anti-government fear mongering for the mere sake of spreading anti-government FUD.

Justusranvier should realize (but maybe he does NOT or he does NOT want to) that Public employees are NOT generally engaged in this kind of nefarious activities, so more likely the referred to activities are to be agents of various financial institutions or entities or individuals and/or other private wealthy status quo interests. 

And to the extent that government employees may be involved in such nefarious activities (at the direction of private financial institutions or preservation of the money system or whatever), these kinds of activities are somewhat speculative and would NOT be carried out with transparency and/or in the public interest.

Additionally, there are a lot of good and decent activities carried out by public sector employees on a daily basis... Accordingly, it is NOT a good and public interest use of government resources if they were to be employed in trolling activities...   Yet, I would NOT consider that "no government officials" are carrying out trolling b/c there could be some and some misguided and nefarious government branches (which there are some that are engaged in spying and social repression), yet trolling kinds of activities from government employees should be discouraged and frowned upon if they were to come to the attention of regular people who should have more influences in the direction of their (anti-people) government and its policies and practices than they seem to have in modern times.
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where is the ipaycoin ANN ~ huge premine i bet! + newbie dev ? lmfao  Cheesy  ~ ipayyyy >> to the moon

iMoney IPO will not cost much, only your soul. muhahaha ~~Apple Inc. CEO
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ipay could be useful to perform Fiat <> BTC transactions, maybe even in a p2p decentralized fashion.

we should put aside our hate for apple and try to use it to our adv.




where is the ipaycoin ANN ~ huge premine i bet! + newbie dev ? lmfao  Cheesy  ~ ipayyyy >> to the moon
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Relief rally, that the Apple Wallet announced at the Keynote is no threat.

Yea... I think that might not turn out to be so true (not that it would be an existential threat, but that it might cut into potential newbies). But, that seems to be how the market is taking it, sure.

Maybe people were worried Apple was making their own coin?  Apple Pay could actually help Bitcoin I believe.  Glad there is no Apple Coin though.  Wink

It's early. I am still waiting for that shoe to drop.
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Each and every one of you owe me a thank you. I predicted that it was a trap and that we'd stall out around $470... now the rally is developing momentum. Obviously, the market does exactly the opposite of my posts. So, I am going to keep posting that the price must come down. I am doing it all for your sakes. Just saying.

Note: I am still bearish on the market, generally, albeit not so much on today. But, as I said above, that might be a great thing for everybody else.

Why are you bearish when the market is clearly oversold, is a huge way down from ATH in a sea of good news that only a year ago would have been predicted impossible? Sentiment is a fluid thing, if we bust back up through into the 6xx's then watch it turn on a dime.

That's a long way to go to 6xx. Meanwhile 475 - 485 is worth more attention  Cheesy
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Relief rally, that the Apple Wallet announced at the Keynote is no threat.

Yea... I think that might not turn out to be so true (not that it would be an existential threat, but that it might cut into potential newbies). But, that seems to be how the market is taking it, sure.

Maybe people were worried Apple was making their own coin?  Apple Pay could actually help Bitcoin I believe.  Glad there is no Apple Coin though.  Wink
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Yes please elaborate...

Do you mean stop hunting shorts?

I mean, hunting for stop orders (in this case: buy stop orders). Usually they tend to be concentrated on previous highs, especially if there are walls nearby.
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You know what i think? This is stop hunting, around the previous top of yesterday. Hence the big ask wall, hence the big market buy order.

Please, do go on. Wink



I may be terribly wrong on this.  Cry


Yes please elaborate...

Do you mean stop hunting shorts?

That's what he means. If so, things are going to get very entertaining.
legendary
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You know what i think? This is stop hunting, around the previous top of yesterday. Hence the big ask wall, hence the big market buy order.

Please, do go on. Wink



I may be terribly wrong on this.  Cry


Yes please elaborate...

Do you mean stop hunting shorts?
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playing pasta and eating mandolinos
You know what i think? This is stop hunting, around the previous top of yesterday. Hence the big ask wall, hence the big market buy order.

Please, do go on. Wink



I may be terribly wrong on this.  Cry
full member
Activity: 238
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Each and every one of you owe me a thank you. I predicted that it was a trap and that we'd stall out around $470... now the rally is developing momentum. Obviously, the market does exactly the opposite of my posts. So, I am going to keep posting that the price must come down. I am doing it all for your sakes. Just saying.

Note: I am still bearish on the market, generally, albeit not so much on today. But, as I said above, that might be a great thing for everybody else.

Why are you bearish when the market is clearly oversold, is a huge way down from ATH in a sea of good news that only a year ago would have been predicted impossible? Sentiment is a fluid thing, if we bust back up through into the 6xx's then watch it turn on a dime.

Oversold in relation to the news, undersold in relation to the user base and potential for expansion. I just don't see that changing dramatically. But that's nothing against Bitcoin or its users... its just a guess about people. I think the overall steam has been lost.

The question, then, is whether that steam picks back up should we get a huge fluctuation in either direction (down = jump in on the steal of a lifetime v. up = get in while the getting's good). Maybe. Even that seems short-term.

I think most people who use Bitcoin are just gamblers and are losing their shirts on these shitty exchanges. So, I am bearish mid to long-term.

There are many great counterarguments, though.

Anyhow, enough of that... enjoy the rally and may it last long enough to help everybody cover their bills.
KFR
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Per ardua ad luna
You know what i think? This is stop hunting, around the previous top of yesterday. Hence the big ask wall, hence the big market buy order.

Please, do go on. Wink

legendary
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Each and every one of you owe me a thank you. I predicted that it was a trap and that we'd stall out around $470... now the rally is developing momentum. Obviously, the market does exactly the opposite of my posts. So, I am going to keep posting that the price must come down. I am doing it all for your sakes. Just saying.

Note: I am still bearish on the market, generally, albeit not so much on today. But, as I said above, that might be a great thing for everybody else.

Why are you bearish when the market is clearly oversold, is a huge way down from ATH in a sea of good news that only a year ago would have been predicted impossible? Sentiment is a fluid thing, if we bust back up through into the 6xx's then watch it turn on a dime.
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You're never too old to think young.
I'm not going to wear an iwatch or any other computer watch. I think apple is taking a misstep here imho.

when the ipad was announced:

everyone: "what do i need that for? lol"

six months later everyone had one, or at least a tablet of some sort.

My wife begged for a tablet.

Now I just use it to read comics.

I saw a few of them floating around the office as well about a year ago but I can't remember the last time I saw one being used in earnest. Just cause apple can still generate a bit of fad momentum doesn't mean much.

I could never see what the fascination with tablets was. They seemed to be just crappy netbooks without real keyboards and underpowered with ARM CPUs instead of real Intel x86.

I finally broke down and got a Nexus7 so I could get something that would fit in a shirt pocket. What a mistake. You can't do anything with it without linking it to an identity through a Google account. I couldn't even install drive mounting software or a file manager without rooting it first.

A couple of months ago I acquired a cheap Apple tablet which necessitated buying a proprietary cable to even reset it to factory condition. What a horror show. Not only did they want me to get an Apple account, I couldn't do anything without installing malware called iTunes. So I used a throwaway installation of Windows on an external SSD only to find I couldn't even transfer files from my PC to the tablet.

I finally found a tablet I can live with in the form of a Sony Xperia Z Ultra, without a SIM card. It has a reasonable (for ARM) quad-core CPU, 2 GB of RAM and an SDXC slot so I was able to up the internal storage to 144GB. It comes with robust drive-mounting and file management software, a 1080p display and is waterproof to 3 feet for 30 minutes.  

Best of all by not installing a SIM card, I've been able to maintain anonymity. I've never been to Google Play Store. All the software I've needed have been available as APK files to download in Windows and transfer to my tablet via cable.


The only reason I haven't sold the Apple to some sucker is that I enjoy the challenge of creating a pseudonymous identity so I can use the damn thing without giving any information to some nosy, snooping foreign corporation.
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You know what i think? This is stop hunting, around the previous top of yesterday. Hence the big ask wall, hence the big market buy order.
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china is not following... for now
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