Madness/Insanity in sports betting/gambling - page 2.

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Quote from: CryptocurencyKing on March 27, 2021, 07:24:44 AM

Is there any spirituality with regards to sports betting or gambling?

What is this? I don't know if I find this question funny or straight weird.

Anyway, it seems you are simply overthinking here. There's madness/insanity everywhere, not just in sports betting or gambling. We are all insane and crazy in one way or another. We are all crazy and mad in another's eyes.

Everybody can predict, give their opinion, analyze, and so on. I mean every single person, may he/she be an expert or outright ignorant. The problem with underdeveloped countries is that there is poverty and ignorance and, of course, extreme laziness as well. People are so desperate to get out of their abject living condition in the easiest way possible that they would even try their luck on a deranged person.

I have seen this myself. A seemingly normal person asking for a lottery number combination from a mentally-ill person. My goodness! If this is the way people think to get out of poverty, I'm afraid they will remain there all their lives.

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Quote from: CryptocurencyKing on March 27, 2021, 07:24:44 AM

Mad/Insane People Making Prefictions For Sane People

I've heard about it one too many times, have seen it quite a few times but it never downed on me until the one I noticed of recent. Wher a group of sane people surrounded this particular insane guy to patronise him to write them some predictions on soccer draws and some lotto tips on random numbers.

I thought to myself, don't madness imply a state of mental disorder no more? Which means, the supposed individual presumed to be mad isn't supposed to be capable of complete thoughtfulness and yet, he somehow seemed to have a business, working and managing it good while playing around with the brains of the sane people.

So, i questioned a friend on this abnormal trend and he replied,
'prediction in itself is abnormal and it only takes one who is abnormal to make a proper, close to or successful prediction often'. Why? I asked and he said,
'Because to an insane person, it comes without dought in contrast to a sane person'
He gave me a scenario where an insane person was asked what was he's time and the insane person replied 'its past 4pm' mean while, it was just 11am in the morning. To the insane guy, he was very sure and ready to stand by his timing because, that's where his state of being is at that point in time. So somehow, this seem to attract them some luck in predictions as what you believe often comes to be.

Is this entirely true, that what you believe with regards to prediction often comes to be?
Is there any spirituality with regards to sports betting or gambling?

What are your thoughts on these trend of mad or insane people running predictions for sane persons. It feels unreasonable but, its happening and most times in underdeveloped nations.

"this seem to attract them some luck in predictions as what you believe often comes to be" I'm sorry but this statement doesn't make sense. The madman can believe as often as he can it's past 4pm, the time will never change. And if it is just 11am in the morning as you say, it will remain 11am in the morning... I really think insane and autistic people can make interesting predictions because they see things in an other way than common people but it has nothing to do with wishful thinking.

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This can be similar to pareidolia meaning someone that can see unusual patterns from an object then they tend to worship it. If people around that insane person thinks that he predicts correctly the result of sports betting or anything related to gambling then they will suddenly think that insanse person must have an ability that a sane person doesn't have. Even if it is just a coincidence, they are blinded by their greed to win in gambling. I would just believe that insane person has extraordinary powers if he can correctly predict the result of lottery thrice in a row.

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Quote from: Twinkledoe on March 27, 2021, 04:43:54 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on March 27, 2021, 01:20:17 PM

This is complete nonsense as a way to increase the chances of guessing the outcome of an event. However, the odds will not be lower or higher as if you just tossed a coin. I must note the use of sick people in such activities is very immoral (of course, if they are not interested in it themselves).

I can second the motion with that. When I read the story, I couldn't believe that it is happening in this age. I don't think there is some good reason why these sane people are using insane one, there is really no point of using them. Better familiarize yourself when you are into sports betting. That may help you in increasing your chances of winning. Not the insane person predicting the results of the game. In what part of the world is this happening? Never heard such up until now.

If you google about such a phenomenon as trash streams, you will find much more unpleasant things. I myself was surprised to learn that streams are popular in the modern world where one person mocks another person. Even if the second person tolerates this attitude voluntarily (for money or for some other reason), in my opinion, such content is unacceptable.

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First off, there are no "insane people". There are people with certain psychiatric conditions and not all of them entail losing critical reasoning. A great example would be John Nash, a mathematician who won a Nobel Prize for Economics, though he was diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia. It is true, that sometimes people with such conditions can come to conclusions, to which normally people wouldn't come. However, that may be the case in something that requires analysis and thinking and personally, I don't find gambling and predictions to be in that group. Also, I do not believe that any kind of people can "attract luck", that sounds superstitious and just weird.

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Sane or Insane people it doesnt really matter because odds or chances would really be just the same.Thing that differs here is on how these people would

able to accept the outcome which its clearly as day on who would be the one will really be not showing some care at all even if they do lost money. Grin

So im not seeing any point in comparing the two since chances are really just the same on the time you do make out bets.

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Nope, I wouldn't believe on it I think if they would just rely on others prediction on betting or gambling might as well do it on their own don't bother anyone else.
If you're a normal person you would also know that those who have mental issue would just answer your question randomly you couldn't have a normal conversation on some of them,
So it would just be a waste of time and money if you just want to waste your money then do it on your own.
But we all have our superstitious belief even in gambling but let's not get too addicted to it to the point that we would even bother those who have mental health issue.

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Quote from: Coin_trader on March 27, 2021, 12:16:22 PM

That's not prediction since the insane guy don't analyze and just choose random pick out of the choice in able to leave him alone by that group of shitty sane people. They should just use a random picker software instead of disturbing the life of insane people since the result that both produce is purely a random pick in the end. Roll Eyes

Exactly, this is what is at play here as, the insane guy has got zero statistics or reasons of any sort for his pick. He just picks numbers in a random pattern and live gamblers to hope for the best. Thats exactly what it is. Should a gambler place his fate in the hands of the insane guy, its simply due to disbelief in his ability to completely randomise his or her pick, a virtue the insane guy possess.

Quote from: Stalker22 on March 28, 2021, 11:20:54 AM

So you're telling me this is an actual thing? Personally, I've never heard of anything like this before.

Paranoid people, being prone to delusional thinking, have a much greater predisposition to insane gambling.

I might as well take a screen shot the next time I see this and do my best in protecting the identity of the fellows when next I encounter one so, you'll have a chance to see this. A very lucrative business indeed for an insane.

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Quote from: CryptocurencyKing on March 27, 2021, 07:24:44 AM

What are your thoughts on these trend of mad or insane people running predictions for sane persons. It feels unreasonable but, its happening and most times in underdeveloped nations.

So you're telling me this is an actual thing? Personally, I've never heard of anything like this before. In a game of chance, the probability of a insane person predicting a result is essentially the same as the probability of flipping a coin or dice to foresee the outcome. Causality does not exist in a game of chance.

Paranoid people, being prone to delusional thinking, have a much greater predisposition to insane gambling.

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I haven’t encountered this type of person ever in my entire life, be it in a physical casino or so far in online casinos, and I don’t think there is a sane person who would believe the predictions of a mentally unstable person but I would love to encounter one though if it exists in my country. Maybe it was just pure coincidence if he did won most of the time, but then again; who knows right?

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Honestly, I have not encountered this, and I don't think I will employ or use this method even in a luck-based game, if ever the prediction turns out to be correct this does not mean that he accurately predicted it's just a coincident, there are no reports of this in our country and it's an insult for a sane man to ask for the results to an insane guy, we are the one who can think clearly and logically.

If it's a luck-based game, and if I don't care if I win or lose I might implement this but not on a sports betting when you need to analyze the situation.

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I guess that could be they can not find how to win that game, so they do that because they realize that it does not make sense they do that.
How can they get the right prediction by asking that person who does not know anything about the game?
I think they really want to win on that games, so they do many things, including doing that thing.
I do not know any spirituality that can help a gambler win because that is out of my mind, and I can not believe it.
If they think that they can help them win and are still doing that, we can not say anything.

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Quote from: CryptocurencyKing on March 27, 2021, 07:24:44 AM

Mad/Insane People Making Prefictions For Sane People

I've heard about it one too many times, have seen it quite a few times but it never downed on me until the one I noticed of recent. Wher a group of sane people surrounded this particular insane guy to patronise him to write them some predictions on soccer draws and some lotto tips on random numbers.

I thought to myself, don't madness imply a state of mental disorder no more? Which means, the supposed individual presumed to be mad isn't supposed to be capable of complete thoughtfulness and yet, he somehow seemed to have a business, working and managing it good while playing around with the brains of the sane people.

So, i questioned a friend on this abnormal trend and he replied,
'prediction in itself is abnormal and it only takes one who is abnormal to make a proper, close to or successful prediction often'. Why? I asked and he said,
'Because to an insane person, it comes without dought in contrast to a sane person'
He gave me a scenario where an insane person was asked what was he's time and the insane person replied 'its past 4pm' mean while, it was just 11am in the morning. To the insane guy, he was very sure and ready to stand by his timing because, that's where his state of being is at that point in time. So somehow, this seem to attract them some luck in predictions as what you believe often comes to be.

Is this entirely true, that what you believe with regards to prediction often comes to be?
Is there any spirituality with regards to sports betting or gambling?

What are your thoughts on these trend of mad or insane people running predictions for sane persons. It feels unreasonable but, its happening and most times in underdeveloped nations.

Mental illness is a very serious matter. I don't think these people who are sufferring aforementioned sickness are capable of predicting such winning random numbers. Maybe it's just a mere coincidence that the tips they uttered was drawn. It's still a matter of perspective though. Like what they say, you attract what you think of.

However, I don't believe in such things. The repercussions are high if you'll bet and risk your money to uncertain and baseless things. It's still much better to use some techniques and strategies in order to win in gambling. The probability of you winning using acquired knowledge and techniques is much larger compared to using the advice of a mentally-ill person.

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Maybe because of the frustration experienced by some gamblers who are always wrong in predicting the results of sports betting. Finally looking
for other alternatives by trying to trust the results of predictions made by insane people, even though we know these insane people do not have
the knowledge of sports as well as our knowledge. It's the phenomenon that happens a lot these days. In fact, not a few insane people impose
expensive rates for the predictions that there are still people who are interested in paying them. Sometimes the greed to be able to make big profits
from sports betting makes some gamblers think irrationally.

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'prediction in itself is abnormal and it only takes one who is abnormal to make a proper, close to or successful prediction often'. Why? I asked and he said,
'Because to an insane person, it comes without dought in contrast to a sane person'

Makes absolutely zero sense.

The probabilities of an insane person winning at a game of pure chance is precisely the same as the probabilities achieved by a sane person. Neither of them can predict with certainty what the next roll holds for them.

If you think otherwise, you're the madman - it's basic laws of maths.

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Praying is some sort of ritual, since time every culture has gods that they call to succeed. I guess they also apply that to sportbetting to have some luck. I would really believe that a person is favoured by god if he wins a bet on an underdog highschool team against an NBA champion. But it doesn't work that way that is why sportsbettors has to analyse the abilities of the players/boxers before betting for probability for its still a game of chance.

Quote from: mindrust on March 27, 2021, 06:08:44 PM

If you talk to a psychiatrist, he would tell you that everybody is crazy. There isn't a single 100% mentally normal person. We all have mental diseases. It only becomes dangerous when our mental illnesses goes above a certain crazy level.

So, to answer your question...

There isn't a single normal guy making guesses in the first place.

I remember a movie when a parent asked if his kid with autism can live normally and then a therapist/psychologist asked back to define normal. Maybe what is normal to someone isn't normal for the other person.

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Absolute bs lmao. Idk what made you believe in "luck" approaching people that have said mentality, but if it was real, we wouldn't be seeing people go under debt due to gambling, nor families breaking apart and whatnot due to gambling. That's just putting madness in a pedestal, one that seems reliant on a stupid reason, and probably even pushing the idea that going mad for gambling is fine. I guess there's a reason for luck to approach people, and yes, we can consider people with luck "abnormal" since they're different from others, but it definitely isn't due to being mad/insane.

Quote from: CryptocurencyKing on March 27, 2021, 07:24:44 AM

He gave me a scenario where an insane person was asked what was he's time and the insane person replied 'its past 4pm' mean while, it was just 11am in the morning. To the insane guy, he was very sure and ready to stand by his timing because, that's where his state of being is at that point in time. So somehow, this seem to attract them some luck in predictions as what you believe often comes to be.

See, this part already went pretty bad. The first half and the second half had no correlation AT ALL. You just basically forced it, there isn't any proof or any reasoning to it, it's just because he stood for what he thinks, and that's why you immediately assumed that luck approached him. You might want to check if this friend of yours is still okay or something. He is reasoning that abnormality and mental disorder is the gateway to winning luck-based games.

Quote from: CryptocurencyKing on March 27, 2021, 07:24:44 AM

'Because to an insane person, it comes without dought in contrast to a sane person'

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If you talk to a psychiatrist, he would tell you that everybody is crazy. There isn't a single 100% mentally normal person. We all have mental diseases. It only becomes dangerous when our mental illnesses goes above a certain crazy level.

So, to answer your question...

There isn't a single normal guy making guesses in the first place.

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Considering anyone can have beliefs whether they are insane or not and also if these beliefs do come to pass, then it means that anyone can do it. You don't have to necessarily be insane to do it. I think the major point I'd like to make here is the fact that, an insane person will go all out and take certain risks (without minding the consequences) compared to a sane person who would often choose to be considerate and manage risks. And truth be told, nothing is achieved from playing things safe.. Sometimes you've to go all in and I think that what gives an insane person a slight edge. Other than that, it should be the same.

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I maybe could call myself insane as I can follow a tipster and pay for the pick if the pick is really legit.

In sports betting, we have these people who really give their time in studying game and analyzing it to get the best bet, and they don't need win all the time, that's something we need to understand as a bettor but winning most of the time will already make us profitable.

I don't care if they charge with serious amount if I'm winning and I'm gambling with a decent amount, at the end of the day, it's just business and win-win for both parties as both have benefited.

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